[HN Gopher] May Update: Connection Established
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May Update: Connection Established
Author : fheld
Score : 53 points
Date : 2021-05-15 14:05 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.pine64.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.pine64.org)
| nazgulsenpai wrote:
| I got my PineBook Pro last week and was honestly surprised at the
| solid build quality. It's a really neat little device and has
| been a blast to tinker with.
|
| I'm really glad this community exists and has been fun to watch
| it grow.
| idle_zealot wrote:
| I got a PBP around when they first started shipping. I mostly
| love it, but there's a strange drift on the trackpad that
| discourages me from using it more. I wonder if that was just an
| issue on early units. Have you noticed that the trackpad seems
| to have issues?
| nazgulsenpai wrote:
| I haven't had any problems with the trackpad. It's not a
| great trackpad, but it works and no drift.
| GranPC wrote:
| I'm personally very excited about Megapixels (the camera app)
| being ported to GTK4. With GTK4's graphics acceleration support,
| I expect that the UI of these phones will get a lot smoother once
| most of the apps are running on GTK4.
| deivid wrote:
| I'm migrating my toy HN app to GTK4 as well, it's not always
| free performance though, the pp GPU is extremely bad, even
| worse than the CPU. My app actually was slower on GTK4,
| although removing rounded corners and shadows as the devs
| recommended actually made it a lot faster than the GTK3
| version.
| GranPC wrote:
| Hmm... I wonder if those expensive effects could be cached to
| a texture atlas to mitigate the performance impact. Hopefully
| the devs are looking into it!
| Mediterraneo10 wrote:
| What I can't figure out is how Phosh on PinePhone could take 5
| seconds just to open a window e.g. to turn wifi on/off, when
| the Nokia N900, also a GTK-based system and running on more
| primitive hardware, managed to have a very snappy and
| responsive UI. Surely this can't be a matter of mere graphics
| acceleration, there must be a great deal of bloat in all the
| underlying libraries.
| swiley wrote:
| Idk why phosh is so slow on the pinephone. Just about any
| other (x11 anyway) DE was fast on it even before the updated
| drivers a few months ago.
|
| I think the other issue though is that on the nokia GTK was
| still built with software rendering in mind whereas modern
| graphics toolkits tend to do the "everything has OpenGL and
| stuff without it can use LLVMPIPE" thing which results in
| very poor performance on incompatible hardware (along with
| less than optimal drawing in order to fit the abstraction.)
| deivid wrote:
| Something I also want to investigate -- CPU is at 100% on 1
| core for 5~ seconds when launching anything. Not even
| waiting for IO, it's mostly user time
| megous wrote:
| There were some shader caching patches mainlined recently
| to mesa, I think, and some improvements went to gtk4,
| too.
|
| https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-
| Lim...
| ocdtrekkie wrote:
| Missed my chance to grab the first "production" PineTimes, glad
| to see another batch is coming soon. It really feels like the
| ecosystem they're building is starting to come together at this
| point.
| edoceo wrote:
| I got an extra but, you have to pick up in Seattle.
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