[HN Gopher] Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work
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       Why Bad CEOs Fear Remote Work
        
       Author : tate
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-05-14 19:27 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | Pet_Ant wrote:
       | I don't know. I started a new job right before Covid. I have
       | never met any of my remaining coworkers (my onboarders both
       | left). I don't care about them. I'm definitely less willing to do
       | something extra to help them out like take a ticket so they
       | aren't stressing their anniversary etc. I feel like remote work
       | brings out the psychopathy in (some?) of us because they aren't
       | real people in any tangible sense.
        
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       | kordlessagain wrote:
       | I'm going to waste my time writing an opinion article that makes
       | a polarized claim about something I know or care nothing about.
       | 
       | "Hacker" is being left out of news!
        
         | 3327 wrote:
         | I was about to say. Click bait title and some nonsense claim
         | with nothing concrete to back it.
         | 
         | I believe back in the day the term would be "hog wash"
        
       | AtlasBarfed wrote:
       | Can anyone enumerate "good CEO" examples? Specific CEOs of
       | specific companies.
       | 
       | I'd argue what will get it to happen is upping the workplace
       | quality.
       | 
       | The push to get people back to work is inevitable. Of course they
       | could do what economics says to do: provide incentives to enhance
       | the utility to the worker of going into work vs staying home.
       | 
       | Food. Workout. Food. Commuter perks (free bus card, free
       | bikeshare, free scootershare). Food. CHILDCARE (a whole new can
       | of beans, who with kids does not recognize the paramount need for
       | nationalized child care now).
       | 
       | Did I mention food?
        
         | tediousdemise wrote:
         | Isn't public schooling sufficient childcare? Not too sure how I
         | feel about my tax dollars going toward superfluous childcare
         | for other people's kids. Especially when I've made the
         | conscious decision to not have a child myself due to the
         | environmental impact.
         | 
         | Echo everything else you said, though.
        
           | yummypaint wrote:
           | I don't have kids either and i want my tax money to pay for
           | pre-k and quality childcare for other people's kids. They are
           | children now but they will be our future colleagues,
           | caretakers, and fellow citizens. We all have a personal stake
           | in the fate of the next generation.
        
             | tediousdemise wrote:
             | I think the onus of childcare is on the parents, not
             | society. If one is relying on family, friends, and society
             | at large to raise their kids, I don't think they should
             | have had them in the first place.
        
               | acuozzo wrote:
               | I have two young boys. The older one is autistic. I earn
               | a decent amount per year working as a computer programmer
               | just as I did when they were born.
               | 
               | If I were to survive a stroke tomorrow, would you tell me
               | that I shouldn't have had them in the first place since
               | I'd require all kinds of assistance to care for them?
               | 
               | Would you support legislation to ensure that I don't get
               | help?
        
               | tediousdemise wrote:
               | This is an exceptional edge case and I absolutely think
               | that additional assistance would be in order. But
               | generally, emergency funds, health insurance, disability
               | assistance, and welfare are all able to alleviate this
               | type of situation.
               | 
               | If you intentionally have kids, you should have had an
               | emergency fund stockpiled long before conception.
        
               | acuozzo wrote:
               | > This is an exceptional edge case
               | 
               | It is, but it wouldn't be challenging to construct far
               | less exceptional cases to consider.
               | 
               | * workers of dangerous jobs e.g. oil rigs and mining
               | 
               | * workers in seemingly-stable jobs that are suddenly
               | outsourced e.g. GMC factory workers in Flint, MI
               | 
               | * workers in industries on the verge of collapse e.g.
               | milkmen and telephone switchboard operators
               | 
               | * lost income after the birth of a disabled child forcing
               | one parent to stay home full-time
               | 
               | > If you intentionally have kids, you should have had an
               | emergency fund stockpiled long before conception.
               | 
               | By shifting 100% of the responsibility to the parents,
               | you're ignoring the issue of far greater importance: the
               | wellbeing of the children.
               | 
               | Telling parents that they should have planned better and
               | saved more does nothing for their children, but those
               | children WILL have an impact on the future society you
               | inhabit.
        
               | yummypaint wrote:
               | It's the responsibility of every driver to yield to
               | pedestrians. That doesn't mean we should all just walk
               | into the street without looking.
        
           | burtmurphy1 wrote:
           | Is your sole reasoning for not having kids because of the
           | environmental impact or is there another reason?
           | 
           | If everyone that cared for the environment took this stance -
           | the only people alive in 100 years would be those that care
           | nothing for the environment.
        
             | tediousdemise wrote:
             | Environmental impact is probably the biggest factor. I also
             | just don't have any motivation or desire to have children.
             | 
             | Parenting is a lifelong commitment and requires
             | responsibilities beyond that which I am willing to commit.
             | I think bringing new carbon generators, who are capable of
             | profound suffering, into the world would be doing a
             | disservice to the environment, everyone around me, myself,
             | and most importantly the child.
        
               | romski wrote:
               | User name checks out
        
       | slownews45 wrote:
       | God - what a random diatribe backed with no data.
       | 
       | If we are doing anecdotes
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       | The staff on-site or asking to come back on-site at my job are
       | all the go-getters. Seriously. It's the folks you least care
       | about coming onsite because they are on all the time at home too,
       | work weekends etc.
       | 
       | The staff you have to follow-up on to know what is going on -
       | radio silence and when there is talk of coming back to the office
       | have extreme concerns over COVID (even though they take time to
       | travel during the pandemic and office will be 100% vaccinated
       | only in an area with < 1.5% positive test rates and < 3 per 100K
       | infection rates).
       | 
       | We've seen a pretty big split like this in the schools as well. A
       | bunch of more energetic seeming charter and other schools - full
       | bore for months with lots of creative solutions. The public
       | schools - closed and remote only education. I guess those heads
       | of school that are avoiding remote are "bad" - total BS.
       | 
       | Let's stop with these garbage headlines and articles unless
       | someone has some real data.
        
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