[HN Gopher] Neural implant lets paralyzed person type by imagini...
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       Neural implant lets paralyzed person type by imagining writing
        
       Author : Engineering-MD
       Score  : 196 points
       Date   : 2021-05-12 19:14 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | tyingq wrote:
       | Might be good to remove the ?comments=1 from the linked url so it
       | doesn't scroll you past the article.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Done. Thanks!
        
       | pgroves wrote:
       | All it needs to be able to do is page-down or scroll-down and I
       | want it (I have RSI problems in my hands).
        
         | wizzwizz4 wrote:
         | You can already get a gaze-tracking program to do this. (You
         | can prototype one in MIT Scratch - yes, really!)
        
       | dahart wrote:
       | Even the free-form mode 75 character per minute sounds amazingly
       | fast for a thought interface.
       | 
       | I wonder what it's like to use. I know there have been many
       | attempts at this, and they're steadily improving, but I watched a
       | talk at EvoMusArt 2007 where researchers used a smaller array of
       | cranial electrodes to have the user control a mouse. That it
       | worked blew my mind. But they talked about how slow and noisy it
       | was to get the cursor from one side to the other... maybe a
       | minute IIRC. What I remember most distinctly was the researcher
       | said it was physically draining to do, that after 5-7 minutes of
       | this activity they would be sweating and exhausted, without
       | moving.
        
       | chaostheory wrote:
       | Reading this, I can't help but think of this great novella, Free
       | Radical, based on System Shock
       | http://www.shamusyoung.com/shocked/
        
       | Alupis wrote:
       | Can someone explain what is new about this generation of the
       | tech?
       | 
       | People have been able to move mouse cursors and type using only
       | their brain and tiny implants for decades... so far Neuralink
       | seems to just be repeating these experiments, but receives a lot
       | more hype.
       | 
       | Here's an article from 2006[1] with someone moving a mouse cursor
       | and clicking things with a similar tiny brain implant.
       | 
       | Is there something new here, or just the Musk train?
       | 
       | [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/13/science/13brain.html
        
         | RamRodification wrote:
         | For me, having also seen the cursors and clicking type stuff in
         | the past, what seems _new_ to me (although I don 't know for
         | sure that it actually is new) is that they can now read minds
         | on the fidelity of unique letters rather than just more simple
         | "directions" like up, down, in, out.
        
         | Ardon wrote:
         | Previous efforts were more inaccurate, you may remember hearing
         | jargon like "alpha waves" or "beta waves". Participants would
         | learn to move cursors by learning to create the neurological
         | activity that was being listened for.
         | 
         | This, on the other hand, is watching for complex neural
         | activity, in that it learns what pattern appears when a
         | participant pictures drawing an A.
         | 
         | Think of the difference like: before the input was controlled
         | by turning your whole body, and now the input can take
         | individual sign language letters.
        
       | silicon2401 wrote:
       | I remember when I first learned to touch-type as a child, and for
       | many years after, I would sometimes 'type' things out on my legs,
       | tabletops, notebooks. At first it was to practice, but after I
       | had mastered typing I kept doing it just because it was still
       | novel to be able to type and feel like I knew how to use
       | technology. Doing that made me realize that typing a character is
       | a very specific and atomic action (compared to writing by hand),
       | as well as an automatic one (once you learn how to touch-type). I
       | wonder if the performance of this solution could be improved by
       | training it to detect the mental impulses that occur when a
       | trained typist imagines typing a character, rather than when the
       | person imagines writing out a character.
        
         | sneak wrote:
         | I still do that (tap things out in qwerty when not at a
         | keyboard) constantly. I type well over 100wpm, and qwerty is
         | very, very deep in my brain. On occasions I am significantly
         | intoxicated (pretty rare for me) I can still type accurately at
         | >50wpm even if my words are slurred.
         | 
         | There have been times I wanted to switch layouts but qwerty is
         | just too far in there for too many decades.
        
           | lazysheepherd wrote:
           | I've been practicing touch typing for over 5 years now. I
           | seem to be capped at around ~65 WPM. I sometimes wonder if it
           | will stay there, or will it improve.
           | 
           | I take this to test my speed:
           | https://10fastfingers.com/advanced-typing-test/english
           | 
           | Now I've tried to take the test again after roughly a year,
           | out of curiosity, and I got around 75 several times. Maybe it
           | will improve very slowly past this level?
           | 
           | Do you perhaps remember how the improvement trend was with
           | you?
        
             | wincy wrote:
             | I played Everquest and would be running from monsters while
             | typing as a young teenager. So I'd have to type as fast as
             | possible. I touch type around 120 wpm without ever being
             | formally trained.
             | 
             | Maybe try something that forces you to type quickly like
             | the game The Typing of the Dead or The Typing of the Dead
             | 2? They're silly games but might help since they add
             | urgency to the typing.
        
             | Baeocystin wrote:
             | You get better over time if you intentionally practice
             | improvement. If you don't, 60-70wpm is a common threshold.
             | 
             | My gut feeling is that this is simply the speed range where
             | the benefits of faster typing during composing quickly fall
             | off. If you're thinking about what to say, you'll write a
             | burst, think, write, think, change a bit, write some more-
             | the limiting factor isn't really WPM.
             | 
             | Transcribing, of course, is another matter, but that is a
             | specialized case.
        
               | float4 wrote:
               | Do you play an instrument? I have a feeling that I can
               | type quickly (well over 100wpm) because I play the piano
               | as well.
        
               | Baeocystin wrote:
               | I play guitar, and I am certain that practicing the fine-
               | motor sync skill of using both hands at once has helped
               | my typing, and vice-versa.
               | 
               | For reference, my typing while transcribing rate is in
               | the 100-110 range. My daily-use composition is likely
               | half, simply because I spend most of my time composing in
               | my head.
               | 
               | I will say that the big advantage comes from being
               | completely comfortable touch-typing, without needing to
               | look at the keyboard. Once you've achieved that, the
               | mental load of typing fades in to the background, and you
               | can spend more time considering content instead of the
               | mechanics of creating it.
        
               | lazysheepherd wrote:
               | Yes, you might be on something here. Tried to reflect
               | back on it after reading your comment, and I think I
               | "feel" content with my current writing speed.
               | 
               | Will try to feel less satisfied with my writing speed,
               | and see if it will help. Thank you for taking time to
               | share!
        
               | taneq wrote:
               | Online chatting, too. My typing speed increased
               | dramatically when I started having conversations online.
        
             | sneak wrote:
             | I have been over 100wpm (on qwerty) since a teenager, and
             | I'm in my late 30s now, so unfortunately no. (My scores are
             | routinely 115-125 these days.)
        
               | lazysheepherd wrote:
               | This makes me suspect it might be like instrument
               | playing. A lot easier to learn while young. I'm 29 right
               | now and I've started practicing around 23-24. A bit too
               | late for this kind of muscle memory I guess.
               | 
               | Thank you for sharing, was useful to compare!
        
         | elliekelly wrote:
         | Have you ever tried to label a blank keyboard from memory? Even
         | though you _know_ where all of the letters are and use them all
         | the time without thinking it's almost impossible.
        
           | dalbasal wrote:
           | I'm bilingual. My memory committed phone numbers and such are
           | stored in one language only. To translate them, I need to
           | write the number down and read it in the other language.
        
             | temac wrote:
             | You can't visualize the numbers? Or translate the "audio"
             | in your mind?
        
               | dalbasal wrote:
               | I can, but it's easier to write it, if I'm at a desk.
               | Audio-translating is harder than it seems that it should
               | be... especially if I"m struggling to recall the number.
               | I suspect that recall and translation are like lead
               | guitar and vocals.
        
           | lazysheepherd wrote:
           | Indeed! It is like entering a pincode on a keypad for the
           | office door every single day. Then the new guy calls and asks
           | you about the pin, and you have NO idea. This happened to me
           | and I had to put my hand on something flat and see myself
           | typing.
           | 
           | I suspect this is some part due to the arrangement of the
           | numbers. Numbers on keypads in these kind of devices often
           | has "1 2 3" on the top row. Whereas on the keybaords and
           | calculators it is reverse. The top row there goes "7 8 9".
        
             | lathiat wrote:
             | In the early days of card payment terminals my mum couldn't
             | remember her PIN number to pay at a shop. Had to run over
             | to an ATM and do a pretend transaction and take note of
             | what she entered.
        
           | grishka wrote:
           | I totally can do that with the Russian layout. _Probably_ can
           | with Latin too, but I won 't be so sure.
        
           | sebmellen wrote:
           | I've found it's quite doable if you just "type" out different
           | words on a blank keyboard and then use where your fingers
           | land as the label. If you type "animal" you then know the
           | position of all the constituent letters. So all you need to
           | do is type a sentence with all characters, like "the quick
           | brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."
           | 
           | Interesting effect though. This reminds me that it's almost
           | impossible to draw a bicycle from memory.
           | https://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/04/can-you-draw-
           | bicycle-f...
        
             | tempestn wrote:
             | Or even just type out the alphabet. But labeling it from
             | left to right, top to bottom, would indeed be tricky once
             | you got past 'qwerty'.
        
         | discardable_dan wrote:
         | Heck, touch-typing is so ingrained in my brain that I sometimes
         | recall how to type a word to remember how to spell it. For
         | longer words I don't write by hand very often, it's simply
         | easier for me to remember and transliterate the muscle memory.
        
           | superduperycomb wrote:
           | I can type far more words than i can spell
        
       | blobbers wrote:
       | How long until this is used in interrogations of criminals...
        
       | citilife wrote:
       | I've worked alongside a group researching similar techniques, it
       | doesn't actually need to be implants -
       | http://bretl.csl.illinois.edu/projects
       | 
       | I think we were able to get up to something like 20 characters
       | per minute, but it was largely UX design. You can go from 6 -> 20
       | characters. I wouldn't be surprised if the implants improve the
       | speed, but UX could probably play an equally large impact.
        
         | hadsed wrote:
         | i think i believe that. what is the easiest thought abstraction
         | that can be captured by our sensors? well the abstraction is
         | largely defined by the UI. i like to think of it like language.
         | UI components (words) come together to enable complex actions
         | (sentences or thoughts). it evokes questions, like what
         | language does the brain speak in certain contexts for certain
         | outputs? that's gonna be interesting to follow. what if we all
         | think _super_ differently and that makes it hard? i can 't
         | imagine why, but i don't have a background in real brains
         | 
         | it may be that our current "AI" tools might be helpful--they're
         | really good at composing "languages" for tying together
         | different types of data. seems that tying noisy brain sensors
         | data to our English alphabet might be an example of that.
        
       | yosito wrote:
       | 90 characters per minute is quite slow. I would expect they could
       | get faster by having the user imagine moving a cursor over an
       | onscreen swipe keyboard.
        
         | tiborsaas wrote:
         | I suggest you to watch the video
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | Kiro wrote:
         | They address this in both the article and the video. Their
         | previous version was exactly that and this is twice as fast.
        
       | idiotsecant wrote:
       | I wonder if this is capable of interpreting more complex
       | characters? I wonder if a patient who previously was able to
       | write in simplified Chinese, for example, might be able to write
       | faster?
        
       | tommi wrote:
       | I love it how we can do this complex stuff. Though being a 90s
       | kid, I imagine doing a T9 based brain-computer interface would be
       | easier and faster.
        
       | warent wrote:
       | This is amazing! I'm assuming when they say "imagining" they mean
       | visualizing it as a mind picture? I wonder how this works for
       | folks with aphantasia. Do you imagine the motor action of
       | writing? Can a paralyzed person still do that?
        
       | schoen wrote:
       | (Should be characters rather than words.) Very impressive; I
       | wonder if future versions will eventually even exceed the speed
       | of speech or typing.
        
         | amiga-workbench wrote:
         | You're reminding me of the augmented 16 fingered prosthetic
         | hands from Ghost in The Shell, much safer than connecting your
         | cyberbrain to a random computer system.
         | 
         | I imagine a future version of this technology would move beyond
         | converting mental keystrokes into input and instead work on
         | more abstract ideas. Imagine if your IDE could auto-generate
         | certain design patterns as you think about them, instead of
         | forcing you to manually type them out.
        
         | Engineering-MD wrote:
         | Yes I just came to put an addendum on for characters not words.
         | But as you said very very impressive. This could massively
         | improve patient's quality of life by being able to communicate
         | much quicker
        
         | _Microft wrote:
         | _This artifical interactive knowledge entity wants access to
         | your attention and emotional state. Think "Accept" to allow
         | permanent access [*]. Think "More info" to instantly know our
         | privacy policy._
         | 
         | This is fine.
         | 
         |  _[*] We will add your technological and biological
         | distinctiveness to our own._
        
           | arunkant wrote:
           | Resistance Is Futile
        
           | SamBam wrote:
           | _In the same way that irreversible actions on legacy keyboard
           | systems are confirmed by typing in a series of words,
           | MentalKeyboard will require you to think of a complex
           | thought._
           | 
           |  _Delete all funds from your bank account? To confirm, think
           | of a polka-dotted elephant. Otherwise, just think of anything
           | else._
        
             | taneq wrote:
             | > To confirm, think of a polka-dotted elephant.
             | 
             | You monster! :D
        
             | dasyatidprime wrote:
             | You would want to offer a specific something else for the
             | user's executive function to latch onto immediately, even
             | if you continue to interpret anything other than the narrow
             | confirmation pattern as "cancel", just so there isn't only
             | one immediate, recent attractor for "think of something".
        
             | gus_massa wrote:
             | I'm not sure if you did it on purpose, but when I read:
             | 
             | > _To confirm, think of a polka-dotted elephant._
             | 
             | I immediately though: How does a polka-dotted elephant look
             | like???
             | 
             | I guess my bank account is blank now :( .
        
               | jwuphysics wrote:
               | This would pose a different kind of problem for people
               | with aphantasia.
        
             | xtorol wrote:
             | "I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I
             | loved from my childhood, something that could never, ever
             | possibly destroy us: Mr. Stay-Puft."
        
         | matz1 wrote:
         | I think so and it probably will require some skills to fully
         | utilize it where kids in the future will start learning to use
         | it from the early age.
         | 
         | I image this is how I probably will become 'obsolete' in
         | regards of technology just like my parent can't catch up with
         | todays technology.
        
       | ChuckMcM wrote:
       | That is seriously creepy. And I REALLY hope if they make it into
       | a product that you can turn it off when you are asleep because I
       | know I'm not the only one who dreams about writing code sometimes
       | and I don't want find myself debugging something I dreamed about
       | the previous night with only a vague memory of having written it.
        
         | anigbrowl wrote:
         | I'd quite like to get dream recordings to be honest, though not
         | to the point of wanting to have an implant just for that
         | purpose.
        
       | spoonjim wrote:
       | Why does this article not mention the names or institutions of
       | the authors?
        
       | _rpd wrote:
       | > 200 electrodes in the participant's premotor cortex
       | 
       | Is finding the right neurons just luck? Does the person somehow
       | adapt to the interface?
        
         | djoshea wrote:
         | Not really. Lots of neurons in this part of the brain modulate
         | their activity to movement in heterogeneous ways. The algorithm
         | details vary, but at some level you're trying to find a 2d x/y
         | velocity signal encoded in the 200d neural signals. This
         | decoder is a bit more sophisticated (using deep learning style
         | approaches), but a Kalman filter was state of the art for a
         | long time.
         | 
         | For the adaptation, there's a rich literature of
         | neuroscientists in this field studying how the participant
         | adapts to the control characteristics of the decoder, and how
         | the decoding algorithm can be designed to adapt after seeing
         | more data during use. Here's one paper if you're interested
         | http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~liam/research/pubs/merel-fox-c...
        
       | kbenson wrote:
       | Hmm, since they are having someone imagine writing a character
       | our and using recognition on it, I wonder if there's gains to be
       | had to switching to a simplified writing, like Palm did for their
       | PDAs in the past with Graffiti.[1]
       | 
       | 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS)
        
         | melling wrote:
         | With autocompletion and advanced prediction 90 characters a
         | minute could be effectively much more.
         | 
         | https://www.tabnine.com/
        
           | DonHopkins wrote:
           | I'd love a neural interface to Dasher, which adaptively
           | learns as you use it which letter combinations are the most
           | popular, and adjusts over time to make it easier and faster
           | to input common text.
           | 
           | It would be wonderful integrated with a context and language
           | sensitive IDE.
           | 
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasher_(software)
           | 
           | https://github.com/dasher-project
           | 
           | http://www.inference.org.uk/dasher/
           | 
           | >To make the interface efficient, we use the predictions of a
           | language model to determine how much of the world is devoted
           | to each piece of text. Probable pieces of text are given more
           | space, so they are quick and easy to select. Improbable
           | pieces of text (for example, text with spelling mistakes) are
           | given less space, so they are harder to write. The language
           | model learns all the time: if you use a novel word once, it
           | is easier to write next time. [...]
           | 
           | >Imagine a library containing all possible books, ordered
           | alphabetically on a single shelf. Books in which the first
           | letter is "a" are at the left hand side. Books in which the
           | first letter is "z" are at the right. In picture (i) below,
           | the shelf is shown vertically with "left" (a) at the top and
           | "right" (z) at the bottom. The first book in the "a" section
           | reads "aaaaaaaaaaaa..."; somewhere to its right are books
           | that start "all good things must come to an end..."; a tiny
           | bit further to the right are books that start "all good
           | things must come to an enema...". [...]
           | 
           | >.... This is exactly how Dasher works, except for one
           | crucial point: we alter the SIZE of the shelf space devoted
           | to each book in proportion to the probability of the
           | corresponding text. For example, not very many books start
           | with an "x", so we devote less space to "x..." books, and
           | more to the more plausible books, thus making it easier to
           | find books that contain probable text.
           | 
           | The classic Google Tech Talk by the late David MacKay, the
           | inventor of Dasher:
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpOxbesRNBc&ab_channel=Googl.
           | ..
           | 
           | It's based on the concept of concept of arithmetic coding
           | from information theory.
           | 
           | http://www.inference.org.uk/mackay/dasher/
           | 
           | Ada Majorek, who has ALS, uses it with a Headmouse to program
           | (and worked on developing a new open source version of
           | Dasher) and communicate in multiple languages:
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvHQ83pMLQQ&ab_channel=Dashe.
           | ..
        
       | hcurtiss wrote:
       | Title should be updated to 90 characters per minute. 90 wpm would
       | be legitimately fast.
        
         | twobitshifter wrote:
         | What is typical writing speed in terms of characters per
         | minute? Maybe the next version could use a former touch typist
         | and ask them to visualize typing on a keyboard.
        
           | grogenaut wrote:
           | average english word is < 8 chars, so call it 8, and that
           | gives you 10 WPM. Sent from a plane, I'm not doing more
           | research than this.
        
           | [deleted]
        
         | etrautmann wrote:
         | 90 characters per minute is still "legitimately fast" for
         | someone who cannot type otherwise!
        
           | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
           | Right, but 90 wpm would be faster than most people could ever
           | do on a conventional keyboard; it's a whole other level.
        
             | qwertox wrote:
             | It would be interesting to see how people compare in speed,
             | assuming that the technology itself is not a bottleneck.
             | 
             | We could directly measure how fast a child thinks, or a CEO
             | vs. a homeless.
             | 
             | Eventually we would be able to pinpoint mental problems by
             | measuring the time it takes to think about a certain topic,
             | check if the mind "locks up" for a couple of seconds on a
             | seemingly unrelated topic which got triggered by the
             | context the mind was thinking about. We could pinpoint the
             | unrelated topic and have a base for a psychotherapy which
             | could be more accurate than by just talking around in order
             | to get to know the patient.
             | 
             | Let's say a group of 10 have to think out the ordering
             | process at a Starbucks where every step has been provided
             | by a list. An average of 20 seconds is used to do this +- 5
             | seconds. If there is an outlier, one could start to dig
             | deeper into what exactly is making the mind to wander off.
             | Multiple tests in different scenarios could then decide if
             | the outlier is a slow thinker in general, or if it is a
             | certain thing which triggers this wandering off.
        
         | lazysheepherd wrote:
         | Just a trivia perhaps, but WPM is _exactly_ 5 times faster than
         | CPM. "the definition of each "word" is often standardized to be
         | five characters or keystrokes long in English" [1]
         | 
         | 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_per_minute
        
           | rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote:
           | So this implant is 18 wpm, then - a bit slower than hunt-and-
           | peck typing (which is ~27 wpm), but still very workable.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | The title shouldn't have added that bit in the first place ("
         | _Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or
         | linkbait; don 't editorialize._" [1]) so we've taken it out.
         | The headline is just fine without it.
         | 
         | (Submitted title was "Neural implant lets paralyzed person type
         | by imagining writing [90wpm]")
         | 
         | [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
         | whimsicalism wrote:
         | 90 wpm and I would be wanting to get one myself!
        
           | buildbot wrote:
           | Yeah a 90wpm interface to a computer mentally would be
           | incredible. Combine that with something like GPT3, use it to
           | do natural language command line processing... If anyone is
           | working on this I'd pay like 5k for a non invasive solution!
           | ;)
        
             | swader999 wrote:
             | If it helped me think at 90 wpm that'd be even better.
        
       | heavyset_go wrote:
       | Having followed the development and trials of various types of
       | brain implants, the realities and side-effects of living with
       | brain implants can be more than most bargained for. Deep brain
       | stimulation implants (which this isn't) in particular can be
       | incredibly nasty even for those for whom implants are a last
       | resort.
        
         | iancmceachern wrote:
         | Like what? Infection?
        
           | heavyset_go wrote:
           | Infection is one aspect. Another aspect is the battery system
           | that powers the implant, they're usually implanted in the
           | chest with a wire that goes up the neck to the skull. There
           | was a case[1] where tension developed over that wire, leading
           | to pain, immobility and destruction of the connection in
           | brain tissue:
           | 
           | > _Steve had the surgery at Stanford, in November, 2012.
           | After the surgery, he had "severe cognitive decline" and a
           | slew of physiological adversities. "The leads [wires] were 18
           | inches longer than they needed to be, so they coiled it up in
           | the chest and at the top of the head; I could feel them
           | externally," he says. "And the leads were too tight. I could
           | move my ear and my chest would move, too," he says of a
           | condition called "bowstringing," whereby scar tissue
           | encapsulates the wires (partly from the body's natural
           | response to foreign material), which has been documented in
           | DBS cases and can cause permanent complications. Steve also
           | had many symptoms that were ultimately diagnosed as shoulder
           | and jaw muscle atrophy, spinal accessory nerve palsy and
           | occipital nerve palsy. He reported all adverse effects
           | immediately and continuously throughout the first year of the
           | study, but the trial doctors continually told him that they'd
           | never heard of such symptoms with DBS, even though nerve
           | damage and DBS wire-related "hardware" complications were
           | among the potential risks listed on the informed consent
           | document._
           | 
           | Because they're relatively experimental, it's almost
           | impossible to find a doctor/surgeon/etc that will choose to
           | work on you should you run into complications. If you have
           | problems with the programming of the devices themselves,
           | there isn't much you can do as a patient, and even
           | specialists can't help you. The only people who can help you
           | are those who developed the device. That can be a problem for
           | a device that's meant to remain implanted until death.
           | Removal is also a huge issue, because brain tissues grow on
           | and around the implants. There are people who want their
           | implants removed, but can't find a doctor who is willing to
           | remove them because of the potential for brain injury and the
           | resulting liability.
           | 
           | They can also cause personality changes, suicidal behavior
           | and even homicidal behavior[4]. There are documented cases of
           | increased impulsivity and impaired executive function, which
           | have led to pathological gambling and shopping. Breakdowns of
           | relationships and the ability to work are also documented[3].
           | 
           | Here's an article on the subject[1], and there are numerous
           | studies that look into such effects, like this one[2] that
           | aggregates dozens of studies.
           | 
           | [1] https://www.madinamerica.com/2015/09/adverse-effects-
           | perils-...
           | 
           | [2] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2013.0
           | 011...
           | 
           | [3] https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2013.0
           | 011...
           | 
           | [4]
           | https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12152-010-9093-1
        
         | etrautmann wrote:
         | This is somewhat off-topic for this particular work.
         | 
         | The advances demonstrated here are in the algorithm and
         | approach, not in the interface hardware (Utah array).
        
         | wombatmobile wrote:
         | Yes, neural implants are invasive, dangerous, prone to side
         | effects, and undesirable. It's just the first, and currently
         | the only way to get the signal.
         | 
         | Ideally, future generations will use a non-invasive sensor.
         | 
         | If you can invent one with high enough resolution, you will
         | change the world. But first, or simultaneously, the other
         | components of the system will have to be invented.
         | 
         | TFA is about decoding the ill-gotten signal. It's an impressive
         | sign that our information processing technologies, and
         | neuroanatomical understanding are already at the point where
         | the system is viable.
         | 
         | If you could complete development of the non-invasive smart hat
         | by this time next year, the world will be a different place by
         | 2025.
        
           | Engineering-MD wrote:
           | Neural implants ideally would be non invasive, with high
           | spatial resolution and fast frequency/temporal resolution.
           | The reality is that you can only choose two of these three. I
           | don't see non invasive options being feasible with current
           | technology. There is some good research into more
           | biocompatible invasive options, but problems can take years
           | to be found.
        
       | lgeorget wrote:
       | I'd like to see a followup on that body of research with Chinese.
       | I wonder if we'd have lower, higher or just similar accuracy.
        
       | Datenstrom wrote:
       | It seems Vim may finally have a challenger for the title of
       | editing text at the speed of thought at some point.
        
         | chexx wrote:
         | Interestingly the constraint of only being able to use a
         | simplified alphabet would let Vim "supercharge" this tech.
         | 
         | My assumption is that translating the thought "delete the
         | current line that the cursor is on" to the actual action is
         | still far away. And then expanding that to something like
         | "delete the current line that the cursor is on and all the
         | lines above it" might be even more difficult.
         | 
         | But the equivalent operations in normal mode are "dd" and
         | "dgg", this interfaces very nicely with the implant.
        
       | ashton314 wrote:
       | This is amazing. Think of how liberating implants like this will
       | be to people with locked-in syndrome or with less-serious
       | diseases!
       | 
       | Personally I've struggled with some RSI. Fortunately I've figured
       | out a good way to manage it, but the thought of loosing my
       | ability to type terrifies me. I could see a mature version of
       | this technology being safe and common enough to be an elective
       | thing; then I wouldn't have to worry about hurting my hands!
        
       | pioughd wrote:
       | It's not 90 wpm it's 90 characters per minute. Big difference.
       | Still awesome.
        
         | dang wrote:
         | Fixed now (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27135360).
        
       | varispeed wrote:
       | This is awesome, but also terrifying. The way the world is going,
       | it is not hard to predict that in the future this kind of device
       | will be used to tackle thought crime or "zap" you if you think of
       | something government doesn't like.
        
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