[HN Gopher] Accelerating Eye Movement Research for Wellness and ...
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Accelerating Eye Movement Research for Wellness and Accessibility
Author : theafh
Score : 18 points
Date : 2021-05-10 19:05 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| aledalgrande wrote:
| Can't wait until when eye tracking is "required" to access
| advanced features of a service...
| ObserverNeutral wrote:
| This has incredible potential to disrupt the ads business,
| marketplace business, as well as the software UI business.
|
| In one word. It would completely disrupt the data mining
| business.
|
| They only know when you click on something nowadays. With this
| tech it would completely change the data mining business and the
| info it can extract on the levels of engagements.
|
| I predict there will be a system in place to prevent the cam
| being used at all times though.
|
| Google can come up with something on Youtube streams where the
| streamer is using the front camera or maybe revamp GoogleTalk
| with ads, bottom line is giving the user a reason to use the
| front camera and then capture the gaze
| cassianoleal wrote:
| > I predict there will be a system in place to prevent the cam
| being used at all times though.
|
| Like a piece of tape in front of it?
| ObserverNeutral wrote:
| No...like the camera being disabled for real unless you give
| the consent to use it....all that under the penalty of losing
| the 2 trillion dollar company reputation if you are uncovered
| doing otherwise.
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| This thing would only work at 2% of its potential unless you
| also give users an excuse to use the front camera much more
| frequently and move the ads from search towards the
| aforementioned front camera environment.
|
| They have a whole lot of social engineering to do which has
| to go along with the proper engineering.
|
| I guess efficiency and customization junkies would love a
| GoogleDocs UI which is optimized for their gaze so you can be
| upfront with them
| actusual wrote:
| How much of a negative impact did Google see when it was
| shown that their smart speakers were recording and sharing
| that data 100% of the time? Probably wasn't zero, but it
| also wasn't enormous.
| ObserverNeutral wrote:
| Google speakers aren't Android phones let's be real.
|
| They'll never risk bugging billions of Android phones
| synaesthesisx wrote:
| Google is certainly not investing in research in this space for
| "wellness and accessibility", they're doing it for the sake of
| gaze tracking for ads.
|
| Google is an advertising company, first and foremost.
| ObserverNeutral wrote:
| Really hard to pull this off, people won't accept a camera
| which spies on them when they are using their phone
| DoingIsLearning wrote:
| If 20 years ago, you told me people would use a digital map
| on their phone that activily tracks their real-time
| location and habits and then associates that with a unique
| 'user profile', I would also say: Really hard to pull this
| off, people won't accept... yet here we are.
|
| All these companies have consistently managed to creep the
| limits of what we allow by alluring people with
| frictionless convenience (at the cost of privacy).
| aboringusername wrote:
| I think it's right to be cynical - we're talking about the
| greatest data tracker and silos on earth here.
|
| What concerns me is:
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| > applications should obtain explicit approval
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| Why not change that to a MUST? I'm pretty sure that's a legal
| requirement anyway.
|
| > all data was collected for research purposes with users'
| explicit approval and consent.
|
| I don't trust you, sorry. Please show me the UI/forms you used to
| gain consent. I cannot have sex with someone because they agreed
| to it in a lengthy, detailed and complex agreement buried in
| complicated legalese.
|
| > users were allowed to opt out at any point and request their
| data to be deleted.
|
| And I can request for you to go...yourself with the BS you throw
| at developers every now and then, doesn't mean you're going to,
| does it?
|
| I'm getting more and more closer to throwing the smartphone out
| the damn window, I'm not paying for a device so you can log my
| every interaction within the world in 4k.
| ObserverNeutral wrote:
| > I'm not paying for a device so you can log my every
| interaction within the world in 4k.
|
| What if following the footsteps of search business model the
| device comes...hear me out...free of charge??? Whoooooaaaa
| mcherm wrote:
| As the article states: > Gaze research needs careful
| consideration, including being mindful of the correct use of such
| technology -- applications should obtain explicit approval and
| fully informed consent from users for the specific task at hand.
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| Once this is possible within a mobile phone (which apparently is
| NOW) do we really believe all users of the capability will be
| this careful with it?
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