[HN Gopher] Wealthy use debt to buy future cash flow everyone el...
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       Wealthy use debt to buy future cash flow everyone else uses debt to
       buy stuff
        
       Author : themdpreneur
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2021-05-09 21:31 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | fungiblecog wrote:
       | Am I the only one thinking "no shit sherlock?"
       | 
       | The rich have the luxury of working on future income flows while
       | the rest of us work to live now. How is this news to anyone?
       | 
       | And those examples are just not practical for most people in real
       | life.
        
         | jandrese wrote:
         | The title is misleading. The rich also buy stuff, but after
         | they do that they have leftover money to invest into future
         | income. The jist is that if the poor had more money they
         | wouldn't be poor anymore.
        
           | treeman79 wrote:
           | Lottery winners often end up broke. This has happened to
           | friends of the family.
           | 
           | If you don't know how to manage money, you won't keep it.
        
       | js8 wrote:
       | I thought the wealthy use debt to convince the poor that they
       | should use debt to buy stuff.
       | 
       | Consumer loans are a capitalist invention.
        
         | treeman79 wrote:
         | Debtors prisons have been around for thousands of years
        
       | fullshark wrote:
       | So where can I buy an established website or used vending
       | machine?
        
         | fortran77 wrote:
         | "Get rich quick with vending machines" is one of the oldest
         | scams there is! Just try getting your used vending machine
         | placed somewhere. No business will touch it.
         | 
         | (Google "vending machine scams" to read about the sordid
         | history of this whole business.)
        
         | slig wrote:
         | EmpireFlippers, Flippa, SideProjectors.com.
        
       | pessimizer wrote:
       | Because the US runs a massive trade deficit. Unless the
       | government increases its debt just as quickly it's an
       | inevitability.
       | 
       | https://cepr.net/national-income-accounting-for-the-washingt...
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       | The wealthy use debt to buy capital because they have plenty of
       | cash to buy stuff.
        
       | hsbauauvhabzb wrote:
       | The horizontal size of this page makes it unreadable on an iPhone
       | XS.
        
       | swframe2 wrote:
       | What do you think of the pacaso.com business model? You can buy
       | 1/8th ownership of a home. I wonder if the non-wealthy can
       | collaborate to get the same outcomes.
        
         | fshbbdssbbgdd wrote:
         | How much of the value is pacaso capturing here?
        
       | hutch120 wrote:
       | I looked into vending machines many years ago and the overheads
       | were massive. Insurance, maintenance, local government approvals,
       | stocking, supply chain issues, vandalism, and the list goes on
       | and on... it is a business where you must scale. You need to be
       | running a fleet of vending machines to make it worth the hassle.
       | There are some interesting companies tackling some of these
       | issues in the IoT space.
        
       | WarOnPrivacy wrote:
       | > everyone else uses debt to buy stuff
       | 
       | Like groceries, medicine, utilities, housing, transportation...
       | 
       | ref: prepared bankruptcy cases for 2 years
        
       | dbish wrote:
       | The concept makes sense, but the specifics written here seem
       | oversimplified and are going to mislead people. Realistically,
       | it's not easy to turn a single vending machine or a purchased
       | content website into a largely passive source of (significant)
       | income for most people. Likewise, real estate purchasing is
       | speculation in many cases and you can end up on the wrong side of
       | that like many have in the past, losing everything when they
       | can't rent out a place and they lose their job (like what
       | happened in the last real estate downturn to many folks).
       | Absolutely agree that if you are using debt, use it wisely, but I
       | would have loved to see more specific and nuanced discussion of
       | how to evaluate options for doing so.
        
         | klyrs wrote:
         | I mean, you're right about the little stuff. And that's why
         | it's not beneficial for a poor person to invest in a single
         | large investment (eggs in a single basket, as it were). But,
         | folks with enough money will diversify their investments. Thus,
         | they can tolerate a sunk vending machine or a brief downturn in
         | property value. When the very rich lose because the entire
         | market is crashing, they're still better off than the rest of
         | us, because we experience the same crash (unless it's something
         | stupidly esoteric like tulips, and even then, the upper-middle
         | class tend to get stuck holding the bag)
        
         | suifbwish wrote:
         | Most of the time, real wealth is generated when something new
         | is created that did not exist before.
        
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