[HN Gopher] AWS drops price for managed Prometheus service by 84%
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       AWS drops price for managed Prometheus service by 84%
        
       Author : markcartertm
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2021-05-04 22:04 UTC (57 minutes ago)
        
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       | bhouston wrote:
       | The GitHub survey showed that datadog is eating Prometheus market
       | share very quickly.
        
         | nine_zeros wrote:
         | Links?
        
         | speed_spread wrote:
         | Considering that one is free and that the other is not cheap,
         | I'd like to see some data demonstrating this since common sense
         | would dictate otherwise.
        
       | bpodgursky wrote:
       | Some Product Managers must be having a really bad day.
       | 
       | AWS is usually super secret about the profit margin on their
       | various cloud services, but now we know that the margin on
       | Prometheus was at least 84%...
        
         | genbit wrote:
         | doesn't have to be, they could sustain losses and count it as a
         | marketing expense.
        
           | bogdanu wrote:
           | How is this even legal? Afaik in EU this kind of business
           | practices are illegal.
        
             | ghshephard wrote:
             | American and European competition laws are very different.
             | 
             | In the United States - the thing that gets close attention
             | is any attempt to coordinate to increase prices, even if
             | that results in increased competition.
             | 
             | Decreasing prices to reduce competition gets a pass over
             | here.
        
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         | m00x wrote:
         | Not necessarily. They might be doing this to get more customers
         | on it since they're losing to Datadog.
         | 
         | Amazon has a long history of being willing to eat a ton of loss
         | to kill competition like in the very popular diapers.com
         | business.
        
       | omeze wrote:
       | Prometheus clusters/scaling/federation can be challenging to
       | manage at scale, but Im a but surprised at how relatively popular
       | Datadog is given its price and how feature rich prometheus is.
       | Does anyone here have experience with both?
       | 
       | Prometheus strikes me as one of the most amazing recent pieces of
       | open source tech, the query language in particular (while hard to
       | grok for beginners) was such an eye opener early in my career. It
       | has its warts but infinite kudos to the creators.
        
         | macNchz wrote:
         | I have really wanted to get a Prometheus into production for
         | several years and have tried a few times, but working at small
         | startups without dedicated ops people I've found myself mucking
         | around too much trying to get the metrics that I really care
         | about wired up, whereas Datadog "just works". Datadog's pricing
         | gives me a bit of indigestion but it's pretty slick.
        
         | dilyevsky wrote:
         | Yeah used both in prod and was pondering the same question. On
         | top of that dd was ridiculously expensive and resource hungry
         | in kubernetes environment. I'm biased though bc i used the
         | prometheus inspiration extensively at google. For someone who
         | doesn't use as many custom metrics (which I suspect are most
         | orgs out there) dd is probably superior bc it gets the job done
         | (mostly) and has ok ui
        
       | stees wrote:
       | Did they switch to VM?
       | https://docs.victoriametrics.com/SampleSizeCalculations.html
        
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