[HN Gopher] Warren Buffett seeing 'substantial inflation' and ra...
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       Warren Buffett seeing 'substantial inflation' and raising prices
        
       Author : lisper
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2021-05-03 19:06 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | randomopining wrote:
       | Yet he doesn't invest in Bitcoin. Why?
        
         | permalac wrote:
         | Same reason took him years to invest in tech, he only invest
         | where his understanding makes him confortable.
        
           | taberiand wrote:
           | Seems to me he understands Bitcoin, and thinks it is hot
           | garbage
        
         | 2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote:
         | >"Cryptocurrencies basically have no value and they don't
         | produce anything. They don't reproduce, they can't mail you a
         | check, they can't do anything, and what you hope is that
         | somebody else comes along and pays you more money for them
         | later on, but then that person's got the problem. In terms of
         | value: zero."
         | 
         | - Warren Buffett
        
           | Salgat wrote:
           | I hold 6 figures in cryptocurrencies but it's really hard to
           | argue with Buffet on this. After over a decade they're still
           | almost entirely used for speculation. The only major real
           | world use outside trading is on the black market.
           | Unfortunately there's no signs of that changing anytime soon.
           | How many more decades do we have to wait for cryptocurrencies
           | to revolutionize how we transact?
        
         | brtkdotse wrote:
         | Same reason he never invested in Beanie Babies.
        
           | twiddling wrote:
           | I am long in Pet Rocks
        
         | yks wrote:
         | Because contrary to popular belief, Bitcoin is not any more a
         | "hedge against inflation" than any speculative stock?
        
       | bko wrote:
       | I found his comments on the Fed policy and its affect on big
       | tech's stock performance interesting and wrote about them over
       | the weekend [0]. In short, according to him a big reason the
       | largest tech companies are up 60+% since beginning of 2020 is due
       | to low interest rate policy of the Fed. Low rates juice equity
       | returns and the biggest beneficiaries are large tech companies
       | with really strong cashflow and low capital requirements. The 5
       | largest tech companies now comprise nearly 25% of the S&P500.
       | 
       | This was the single largest line item of covid spending. $3
       | trillion of the $12 trillion has gone directly into asset
       | purchases (treasuries and mortgage backed securities) [1]
       | 
       | Another interesting thing I read about is how companies work
       | around inflation. You see this in candy bars where the company
       | shrinks the size of the bar rather than raise prices, eventually
       | creating a "king size" to accommodate higher input prices. Other
       | examples of include cutting corners and using cheaper material.
       | 
       | [0] https://mleverything.substack.com/p/where-did-
       | the-12-trillio...
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       | [1] https://www.covidmoneytracker.org/
        
         | devoutsalsa wrote:
         | Reminds of the pressure to do away with big candy a few years
         | ago. Instead of having one "King Size" candy bar, we'll cut it
         | in half & provide 2 "Sharing Size" candy bars. [1]. Instead of
         | getting fat by yourself, stay skinny with your friend, unless
         | you are your own best friend.
         | 
         | [1]
         | https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/02/15/146929211/go...
        
         | Scoundreller wrote:
         | > Low rates juice equity returns and the biggest beneficiaries
         | are large tech companies with really strong cashflow and low
         | capital requirements.
         | 
         | Shouldn't it _really_ juice okay companies with high debts? Or
         | with high capital requirements because the interest cost on
         | capital projects just went down?
        
           | bko wrote:
           | They would have to refinance to benefit from lower interest
           | rates. And you have this additional credit variable. It would
           | definitely cause some companies to change their capital
           | structure, essentially increase leverage to benefit from
           | lower rates. But I don't think this would help companies with
           | existing debt more than less levered companies
        
       | LatteLazy wrote:
       | Respectfully, he's an expert at individual companies, not macro
       | trends. He's done a lot for the average man by inspiring people
       | to invest and recommending appropriate literature. But he isn't
       | an actual prophet...
        
         | missedthecue wrote:
         | He's not predicting macro trends. He runs one of the worlds
         | largest industrial companies, and he's saying that they are
         | seeing skyrocketing input costs.
         | 
         | He's not prophesying anything. He's sharing facts that have
         | already happened.
        
         | halotrope wrote:
         | I think you are confusing Buffett with Burry. Keep in mind that
         | he chairs a massive conglomerate and has insights in a lot of
         | industries. His remarks where observations, not predictions.
        
       | nabla9 wrote:
       | The Fed has new inflation target policy so they are not going to
       | act for a while.
       | 
       | There should be transitory spike 3% or more (core PCE price
       | index) then slow down to 2.5% or so for most of 2021. (PCE can
       | jump to 4% temporarily).
       | 
       | Then it will slow down again and Fed will again struggle to
       | maintain desired level of inflation.
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       | Even journalists seem to understand terms only syntactically.
       | Assent inflation is not related to price inflation. They have
       | completely different mechanisms. Asset inflation does not
       | increase wages or anything like that.
        
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