[HN Gopher] Will Linux Phones stay around this time?
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       Will Linux Phones stay around this time?
        
       Author : todsacerdoti
       Score  : 9 points
       Date   : 2021-05-01 22:43 UTC (17 minutes ago)
        
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       | rbanffy wrote:
       | Am I missing something? Every Android phone is running Linux.
        
         | reeealloc wrote:
         | But a good portion of them are riddled with google
        
         | InvertedRhodium wrote:
         | Android is not Linux any more than Chrome or Firefox is Linux
         | just because it runs on top of it.
        
         | ekianjo wrote:
         | Linux is a kernel. Obviously this article is talking about a
         | different user space than Android.
        
       | hpoe wrote:
       | Anyone know of any good Linux phones. Mine is going to be dead
       | soon and for a while I liked Pixel because it didn't have all the
       | Samsung or Motorola or anytime else bloatware, but with what
       | Google has been doing I'd prefer a full Linux phone.
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       | I've looked a Librem but $1500 is kind of hard to justify when I
       | have all my other expenses that come with a young family.
       | 
       | Anyone have any suggestions?
        
       | jchw wrote:
       | I enjoy the Pinephone, but it certainly has its issues. I'd kill
       | for better performance; it's very close to usability. I also have
       | some issues with the hardware (it seems my battery has stopped
       | working entirely, recently.)
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       | On the other hand, there is one confounding software issue that I
       | think makes it the hardest as a full replacement for a modern
       | smartphone: push notifications. An equivalent for APNS or FCM
       | that allows for relatively low power consumption, low latency
       | push notifications would need to be devised, financed and
       | actually adopted. It's nice to imagine a world where apps on
       | phones are like how apps on desktop are and just keep, for
       | example, active WebSocket connections at all times, but this
       | doesn't appear to be something practical with current technology.
       | 
       | Maybe federated, E2EE push notifications could come into
       | existence? A sort of ActivityPub of pushes... It's a pipe dream,
       | but one can hope.
        
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