[HN Gopher] Wi-Fi packet capturing on M1 Macs is broken
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       Wi-Fi packet capturing on M1 Macs is broken
        
       Author : mrzool
       Score  : 85 points
       Date   : 2021-04-29 21:03 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | my123 wrote:
       | Interesting that Apple still uses Broadcom Wi-Fi + BT chips in
       | most of their product range despite lots of issues with them.
       | 
       | Apple Watch nowadays is using Apple (codenamed Marconi) Wi-Fi +
       | BT chips, hopefully they'll switch all their product lineup to
       | those.
        
         | relevant_thing wrote:
         | Are those from Infineon->Intel->Apple modem lineage or is that
         | a different team?
        
           | AceJohnny2 wrote:
           | I think the acquisition of the Intel modem group is too
           | recent to have been integrated into the Apple watch
        
       | derekerdmann wrote:
       | > 1. Packet captures don't use the correct channel
       | 
       | I've also seen this on a 2020 Intel MacBook Air. I assumed it was
       | a Big Sur issue but had never tried it on Catalina.
       | 
       | Sniffing from the command line did pick up the correct channel:
       | https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/49317/36875
        
         | Nextgrid wrote:
         | Big Sur has been a significant drop in quality, even worse than
         | Catalina. Some are bugs such as this one and some are just
         | deliberately stupid design decisions like the changes to the
         | notifications. I'm worried for the future of the Mac.
        
           | stock_toaster wrote:
           | Early versions of Catalina were also not great. (Heck, early
           | versions of any major macos release tend to be relatively
           | buggy!)
           | 
           | I think people tend to forget things like that, and only
           | remember the later releases of an OS since that is the
           | version they are likely switching off of it to the newer one.
           | 
           | I personally have found big sir no more buggy than most
           | releases. Better than some[1], worse than others. About
           | middling. Not bad for it including new hardware (m1)!
           | 
           | [1]: ye gods, remember how bad 10.10 was with discoveryd
           | before they rolled back to mdnsresponder! yikes!
        
             | faitswulff wrote:
             | I have to wonder if all issues with Apple's software
             | quality are due to Apple redirecting resources to
             | gracefully handling the Apple silicon transfer.
        
               | AlexandrB wrote:
               | macOS quality has been declining for years. It can't
               | _all_ be due to the M1 transition.
        
           | Ericson2314 wrote:
           | As Linux laptop user, I'm bemused when the competition gets
           | worse.
           | 
           | Maybe Linux on Apple Silicon will be the best of both worlds
           | in a few years --- I think the dedicated porting effort will
           | more than succeed and will get something more polish than
           | Linux on Intel macs ever was.
        
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