[HN Gopher] Lipogram
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Lipogram
Author : galfarragem
Score : 32 points
Date : 2021-04-24 09:07 UTC (1 days ago)
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| teraflop wrote:
| On a popular social discussion forum, a group that follows said
| format's constraints:
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| https://www.reddit.com/r/AVoid5/
| cdelsolar wrote:
| Constrained writing is kind of amazing. The story "Cadaeic
| Cadenza" is very highly recommended -
| http://www.cadaeic.net/cadenza.htm
|
| It is a kind of meta story as the constraint is actually
| discussed in the story.
| [deleted]
| MereInterest wrote:
| Doing this as you program is also fun, as you must find standard
| library functions that act similarly to your daily functions, but
| still with analogous output. I did this a long ago, writing a
| program in C that avoids any inclusion of ';'.
|
| (Also, wow it is hard to avoid 'e', just for this post, though I
| found that I couldn't bypass that limitation for "semicolon".
| Doing so for a full book would bring about total insanity.)
| schoen wrote:
| Folks who study attacks also found it practical to construct
| binary attack payloads without particular symbols (or with only
| particular symbols), in that ways of providing such payloads
| might constrain valid symbols.
|
| X86 attack payloads built, amazingly, with only [A-Za-z0-9]:
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphanumeric_shellcode
|
| I think I saw similar work with analogous but distinct
| constraints in addition to [A-Za-z0-9].
| dhosek wrote:
| Having read Perec's _A void_ , there are some interesting
| "cheats" involved in the work (at least in its English
| translation), where certain phrases end up standing in for their
| forbidden equivalent, e.g., "that man" for "he."
|
| I came across a reference to another writer's work where he wrote
| 5 medium-length pieces where the only vowels were A, E, I, O and
| U. He said that he created word lists from a dictionary and then
| wrote using only those words.
|
| Writing to a constraint in general is a surprisingly liberating
| process and while some of the Oulipo practices are not
| necessarily generative on their own, they do force the writer's
| mind out of the well-trod tracks that it would otherwise travel
| along.
| flobosg wrote:
| > I came across a reference to another writer's work where he
| wrote 5 medium-length pieces where the only vowels were A, E,
| I, O and U.
|
| That's probably Christian Bok's "Eunoia".
| dhosek wrote:
| That's exactly the book I was thinking of. Thanks.
| schoen wrote:
| I've enjoyed lipograms a lot (in the past practicing not only
| writing but also speaking without "E"), and also admired these
| two tautogrammatic translations of the Genesis creation story
|
| https://llamasandmystegosaurus.blogspot.com/2017/05/alpha.ht...
|
| https://calvinballing.github.io/saga/
|
| so much that I recently wrote my own tautogram-in-B version of
| the same text (just finishing yesterday!). I'm going to publish
| it somewhere soon.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautogram
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| lipograms that avoid a particular non consonant (not a or i) is
| highly difficult to do. It can only last for a short amount of
| words until a struggling author is struck by a long fit of
| insanity. And nonwithstanding said authors hard labours, his work
| shall probably pass into oblivion without making any impact on a
| world blissfully ignorant of authors long and painful hardships.
| His puny contribution shall only attract criticsim as fruit of a
| bad author who is failing at artful writing. But an author of
| lipograms is truly an outstanding artist. A work of art only
| functions as a display of an artists vast imagination. Now, a
| lipogram of any type-long or short, is argubly as high a form of
| grammatical art as anything.
|
| At the start, i didn't think i would start two paragraphs, but
| this sort of writing only grows on an author. I am loving writing
| this, and in fact i think all of us should try lipograms
| occasionaly. Now, i must finish this topic to maintain what small
| amount of wit i can still call my own.
|
| I thank you humbly for glancing at my pitiful try at a lipogram
| and i wish you a good day.
| amluto wrote:
| Did you deliberately escape with the word "escape"?
| FridayoLeary wrote:
| i want to throw myself off a roof i'll edit it. Thanks
| lsb wrote:
| A lipogram is not difficult to do; I'm anticipating thousands
| of HN folks to try a hand at a writing task that sustains its
| popularity, thousands of folks trying to fashion a long-form
| post worth a look.
|
| What is mostly unknown is a lipogram that tops any list of
| books that attain financial grandstanding (A Void
| notwithstanding), which brings a quick sadness.
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