[HN Gopher] Twitter takes down tweets criticising handling of pa...
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Twitter takes down tweets criticising handling of pandemic at
government request
Author : danso
Score : 80 points
Date : 2021-04-24 16:22 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| gremlinsinc wrote:
| I get censoring calls for violence and insurgency...
|
| Like at the capitol... Though to be honest idiots at the capitol
| were stupid many posting their crimes and social media leading to
| their arrest.
|
| Social media needs decentralized with community based censoring
| let govts police their citizens if they want but leave the
| content up with disclaimers and such.
|
| I think it's more damaging for shady politicians, criminals, etc
| if their tweets were permanent and there were no delete button...
|
| You could add revisions/retractions but can't pretend it was
| never said by erasing.
| ab_testing wrote:
| Sounds good in theory but in practice, if you want to operate
| in a particular country,you need to abide by the laws of that
| country. That is what Apple stores all Chinese iCloud data
| within China and hands over the iCloud encryption keys to the
| government .
|
| Free speech is not that free in other parts of the world .
| 0xmohit wrote:
| Censorship in India isn't new. The usual modus operandi is to
| shutdown the internet. 4G mobile services were banned in Kashmir
| for 550 days [0]. The objective is largely to control the
| dissemination of news.
|
| The government had recently amended laws to govern social media
| giants including Facebook, WhatsApp and Twitter [1]. These laws
| were introduced during the protests against the farm laws when
| government had requested Twitter to take down a number of
| accounts:
|
| > The new rules come on the heels of a tense standoff between
| Twitter and the Indian government. Twitter reinstated several
| accounts that the government had ordered it to take down for
| using what it called "incendiary and baseless" hashtags related
| to farmers protesting against new agricultural reforms. The
| platform ultimately took down hundreds of accounts and partially
| restricted others, but drew a line by refusing to block accounts
| of journalists, activists and politicians.
|
| The public policy directory at Facebook had opposed applying the
| company's hate-speech rules to a politician from Prime Minister
| Narendra Modi's party who had in posts called Muslims traitors
| [2].
|
| > The WSJ article said Das had told staff that applying hate-
| speech rules to politicians close to Modi's ruling Bharatiya
| Janata Party (BJP) "would damage the company's business prospects
| in the country."
|
| [0] https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/india-
| restores-4...
|
| [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/25/tech/india-twitter-
| facebo...
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| [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-india-
| exclusive-...
| PicassoCTs wrote:
| Its high time, a slow, authoritarian resistant, mesh net
| infrastructure standard is developed, were travelling people
| become the data carriers for requests from cut off regions.
| Nobody knows what s/he carries, and it can only be decrypted by
| the receiver.
|
| Routing could be done by likelihood of organization
| association. Organizations are cellphone-proximity structures,
| formed by popular vote of each member validated with its
| history.
|
| If you claim to regularly fly to hongkong, somebody on a
| busstation might transfer to your phone via BT a encrypted
| documentation, all even with plausible deniability, if part of
| the meshnet is a friendly virus. If your behaviour does not
| correspond to your actual behaviour, it gets written as a sink
| into a public ledger.
|
| Imagine the data-organism taking shape in such a mesh-net.
| Classes in a university are constituted by the lecturer joining
| the class, the ever changing setup in a bus is constituted by
| the bus-driver.
|
| Its like providing a reliable behaviour prediction, makes you a
| reliable routing predictor for the data hoping from phone to
| phone. I predict three hops to the train-station, near a
| household router, which is regularly in contact with X.
| afuchs wrote:
| See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26926054 and
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26925698
| vmception wrote:
| if you get in bed with a government then maintaining a
| relationship with that government is more important than worrying
| about their form of due process
|
| unless another part of the government tries to say you can't take
| all the business, of course
| RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote:
| For everyone talking about the Streisand Effect, I don't think it
| is applicable anymore in the age of centralized social media such
| as Twitter and Facebook.
|
| Can anyone point to an information or post that was censored by
| Twitter and/or Facebook and really took off in a huge way?
|
| I think censorship these days is pretty effective, if you can get
| Twitter and Facebook on board.
| abnry wrote:
| It isn't surprising but this is getting to be the last straw.
| Twitter is poison.
| Sunspark wrote:
| I think it's great. Twitter allows people to communicate
| relatively openly. The alternative is to have all
| communications run through a censor filter.
| makeworld wrote:
| The alternative is decentralization. You don't have to prefer
| one master over another.
| failwhaleshark wrote:
| Lol, I hope that's /s. Unless you're in India or somewhere
| where Twitter bows down to censorship.
| tgflynn wrote:
| Significant clarifying detail: At the request of the Indian
| government and in India.
| bnc319 wrote:
| It's interesting to see them fully removed, rather than adding a
| disclaimer. I predict that the disclaimers that sites like
| YouTube have implemented in an effort to fight misinformation are
| not that effective, especially among users who already have a
| tendency to distrust platforms/government.
| villgax wrote:
| Way to go Indian Govt! Now you get to see the Streisand effect in
| all of its glory as you try to burn bodies & still hold political
| rallies.
| worldofmatthew wrote:
| This will come to other countries with most of the west calling
| for censorship of the internet.
| lawnchair_larry wrote:
| Yep, and they already do it voluntarily in the US.
| encryptluks2 wrote:
| In other news, Twitter takes down tweets criticizing their
| handling of taking tweets down at the request of their PR team.
| /sarcasm.
|
| Welcome to 1984.
| karmakaze wrote:
| > /sarcasm
|
| How would you know? I suppose encoded/improperly spelled
| messages would get through some of the time.
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