[HN Gopher] American Honey Is Radioactive from Decades of Nuclea...
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       American Honey Is Radioactive from Decades of Nuclear Bomb Testing
        
       Author : onychomys
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2021-04-22 19:09 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.vice.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.vice.com)
        
       | excalibur wrote:
       | > These explosions were tests, shows of force to rival nations,
       | and proof that countries such as Russia, France, and the U.S. had
       | mastered the science of the bomb.
       | 
       | Except for the two that weren't.
        
         | dwighttk wrote:
         | Sort of depends on how you define "show of force"
        
           | kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote:
           | That's precisely what they were.
           | 
           | TL;DR, it was becoming apparent that Japan was not going to
           | surrender, and were willing to fight to the last man
           | standing. The nuclear bomb drops were to demonstrate to the
           | Japanese government that they were clearly outmatched by the
           | end of the war.
           | 
           | It worked.
        
             | potiuper wrote:
             | There was no need to burn two cities. The head honchos
             | could have been taken to the test(s); with the possibility
             | of surrendering earlier with less territory lost to
             | Soviets.
        
               | snypher wrote:
               | The reasoning I have heard is that USA wanted to show it
               | just wasn't a one-off or all-or-nothing attempt. By
               | showing they could do this multiple times, it was a more
               | effective weapon.
        
               | londons_explore wrote:
               | Could have just done two demonstrations/tests...
        
         | jaywalk wrote:
         | Those two were on the other side of the world, and they're
         | talking about US honey.
        
           | dwighttk wrote:
           | > Here we show that vegetation thousands of kilometers from
           | testing sites continues to cycle 137Cs because it mimics
           | potassium, and consequently, bees magnify this radionuclide
           | in honey. There were no atmospheric weapons tests in the
           | eastern United States, but most honey here has detectable
           | 137Cs at >0.03 Bq kg-1, and in the southeastern U.S.,
           | activities can be >500 times higher.
        
       | ggreer wrote:
       | Here's the actual paper described by the Vice article.[1]
       | 
       | For those who aren't familiar with the unit, a becquerel[2] is
       | one nucleus decay per second. The highest level of Cesium
       | radioactivity they measured was 19 becquerel per kilogram of
       | honey. For comparison, natural potassium has around 31,000 Bq/kg.
       | 
       | To put it in more concrete terms: eating a kilogram of the most
       | radioactive honey they found would be equivalent to eating two
       | bananas.[3]
       | 
       | 1. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22081-8
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       | 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becquerel
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       | 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose
        
         | seba_dos1 wrote:
         | As the article notes, a much more important thing to consider
         | is how it influences insects working with pollen and producing
         | that honey rather than how it influences humans who consume it.
        
       | lucasnortj wrote:
       | go vegan, problem solved
        
       | JohnBooty wrote:
       | I remember a few years ago, there was a lot of concern that much
       | of the honey sold in American supermarkets was of unknown origin,
       | and possibly from Asia where safety regulations are more lax.
       | 
       | https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2011/11/25/142659547/re...
       | 
       | Well, I guess there's now there's an easy way to tell if your
       | honey is really from America or not: grab a Geiger counter.
        
         | mrlonglong wrote:
         | Uranium glows under UV light so I guess you could try that.
        
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       | b0tzzzzzzman wrote:
       | Odd, no mention of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster.
        
         | potiuper wrote:
         | No bomb cloud that dispersed heavy elements.
        
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