[HN Gopher] Show HN: Litmaps - Visual Research Discovery Tool
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       Show HN: Litmaps - Visual Research Discovery Tool
        
       Author : axtonpitt
       Score  : 104 points
       Date   : 2021-04-22 08:46 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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       | cjlm wrote:
       | This looks interesting, I've been using Connected Papers [0]
       | which does a really good job. Nice to see an alternative.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.connectedpapers.com/
        
       | xaedes wrote:
       | Pretty amazing! Is there an option to display the articles in
       | "year - title" instead of "author, year" format?
       | 
       | Imho this would give a much better overview over the topics and
       | research itself.
       | 
       | With "author, year" format it feels like a tool to analyse
       | citation networks and how people cite each other; more about the
       | social aspect than about the content of the articles.
        
         | axtonpitt wrote:
         | That's a great suggestion, there isn't an option currently but
         | that is reasonably easy to add. One issue is trying to fit
         | enough labels on nodes to make it useful which we have grappled
         | with.
        
           | mncharity wrote:
           | When exploring a seed article, mousing over a node highlights
           | its filtered graph. Perhaps show its title then as well?
           | 
           | And I'd ideally like to also see the abstract then,
           | somewhere. Rather than that requiring a click. Currently,
           | "surfing", orienting exploration, seems regrettably high
           | friction. Click, wait-for-load, look, click, load, look,
           | "hmm, did I click on that one already? yes, drat.", ... "have
           | I clicked on all of them yet? I don't know, maybe I've missed
           | something nifty, but I'm done.". Having faded pink nodes that
           | no longer respond to mouse adds a "ok, to see _that_ node, I
           | currently need to first click on _other_ node ".
           | 
           | For node labels, perhaps have some kind of title digest? To
           | visually aid the "remind me again which paper that node is?".
           | Perhaps the title in an unreadably small font?
           | 
           | When "Run Explore" on a map yields "No results", perhaps add
           | an onboarding hint of what needs to be different in order to
           | have results?
           | 
           | Sigh. When using HN, after logging out in a different window,
           | continuing to edit a comment, and clicking "update"...
           | apparently unrecoverably discards the edit?!? :/
           | 
           | Briefly, on the map list of papers, the scrollbar vanishes
           | after a second or two (on desktop firefox), so you lose the
           | visual indication of how far down the list you are. Have to
           | jiggle the list to briefly get that back.
           | 
           | On the map list of papers, clicking on a paper popovers the
           | paper info. To go back, there's a close-X, and history-back
           | works. But ESC doesn't, and perhaps should.
           | 
           | Off topic but for fun, when using a shallow-3D display (eg AR
           | glasses), it seems information might be
           | segregated/decluttered using depth. So for silly example,
           | there might be lots of title clutter, but if it was on a
           | layer raised above the node graph, one might "look through"
           | the clutter to the graph. And then attentionally shift to the
           | title layer, without that depth step being so large as to
           | trigger refocus eye strain. ... Maybe. Just something I've
           | played with. And it's less than pretty.
        
       | timvdalen wrote:
       | Looks interesting! Is there a way to get some more 'debug' output
       | from importing? I tried to import a bibliography I had lying
       | around, but it found 0 articles in it (even though it's valid and
       | has 33 entries).
        
       | Cenk wrote:
       | I took one look at Litmaps when they first launched on
       | ProductHunt and loved it so much we immediately approached them
       | to integrate it with Citationsy
       | (https://citationsy.com/blog/citationsy-and-litmaps/). The
       | features they have added since then, like email updates if a new
       | paper pops up on your map, colour coding, and reference count,
       | show that the team is on the pulse of what's useful to
       | researchers and students. Looking forward to seeing what they add
       | next!
       | 
       | Take a look at an example map here:
       | https://app.litmaps.co/maps?doi=10.1038/S42256-019-0086-4
        
         | benrbray wrote:
         | Always glad to see better citation tools! Some feedback about
         | the site:
         | 
         | After clicking through all the links on the top navigation bar
         | as well as some of the links in the footer, and I didn't see
         | anything except for marketing fluff and testimonials.
         | 
         | I was hoping for some screenshots some kind of "features" page,
         | with a section for each major feature of Citationsy, and an in-
         | depth explanation of how it compares to other tools, plus a
         | screenshot of actually using that feature.
         | 
         | Did I miss something? If I did, please make it easier to find
         | out what Citationsy actually does!
         | 
         | I also tried logging in, but your free trial also demands that
         | I enter my credit card info. Big red flag, no thanks.
        
       | stared wrote:
       | The idea is nice, but the search does not work. I tried to look
       | for my own articles, but failed. It showed instead some other
       | articles that for sure don't contain a given work (e.g. I
       | searched for my surname with a word "multiphoton" and yet it
       | showed me some legal articles).
        
       | omarhaneef wrote:
       | A few thoughts:
       | 
       | 1. This is amazing. I wish I had it years ago, and I could use it
       | now.
       | 
       | 2. I like the visualization but my favorite thing is the sense of
       | completeness and influence I get when I look at articles. Rather
       | than relying on someone's opinion of the most influential
       | article, I can see the article and the influence right there.
       | 
       | 3. This is early days but I am already running into the
       | frustration of not being able to see all the articles out there.
       | This probably has to do with publishers and paywalls and what
       | not, so probably not your fault, but it is still a problem that
       | has to be dealt with in order to render this truly useful. ( _)
       | 
       | (_) interestingly, over time, it may not matter as much when
       | every paper has a version on ARXIV, but in 2021 I was looking for
       | papers influenced by work done as far ago as the 80s and 90s.
        
       | ropeladder wrote:
       | Looks really nice. I built a similar site a few years back with
       | an economics/policy/debate focus ( https://thicket.io ) but gave
       | up/burned out after not getting any users and struggling to
       | manage the data backend. It's great to see other people tackling
       | similar problems.
        
       | peytoncasper wrote:
       | This is really awesome, I love the map for tracking existing
       | papers and exploration for finding relevant ones. Any thoughts of
       | supporting other integrations into something like Notion? Would
       | be awesome to use Litmaps as the central index and attach notes
       | on the papers.
       | 
       | Where are you indexing your articles from? Plenty of ML/CS
       | articles, but wasn't able to find someone by their Orchid ID in
       | the Biology/Chemistry space.
       | 
       | Looking forward to the full release.
        
       | Grimm1 wrote:
       | I'm so happy to see someone made this! I asked for something
       | similar a few months ago and got crickets. I found something from
       | the 90's that surely people had built on and I would have liked
       | to see what had been done since but, manually tracing through
       | everything would have been exhausting.
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/IanTB01/status/1359969167760371720
        
       | charlesdaniels wrote:
       | This is a really cool idea! I have wished for something like this
       | for a long time. Glad to see someone built it.
       | 
       | Sadly however, it seems that the .bib file I get from Zotero
       | isn't supported, since it claims to have found 0 articles in it,
       | despite the fact that I have verified those articles show up when
       | searching for them directly.
       | 
       | Edit: TIL that you can _also_ get a .bib file from the  "export
       | items" button, as well as from "create bibliography from items".
       | I had been using the latter. It seems that Litmaps only works
       | with .bib files created using "export items".
        
         | axtonpitt wrote:
         | Ah thanks for highlighting this, will fix.
        
       | teapourer wrote:
       | Great work! Is there a way to share a map state via a URL?
        
         | axtonpitt wrote:
         | Not currently, this is on our todo list.
        
       | yellowyacht wrote:
       | Fantastic! I played with it some and I'm really impressed. Thanks
       | for not requiring an account. What do you plan to do with it
       | next?
        
       | axtonpitt wrote:
       | Hi I'm one of the founders of Litmaps. We set out to build this
       | tool after frustration with the state of current academic search
       | software. This was specifically from the painful literature
       | review process of my co-founder during his PhD.
       | 
       | Our first attempt to solve this was with a "map of all science"
       | (from 1400-today, 100M+ articles, 1B citations), which we did
       | build but it didn't end up solving the problem that well. We re-
       | approached the problem by pairing a time-based citation
       | visualization, with helpful search tools, and project (or map)
       | state. Our visualization lets you quickly see how search results
       | relate to each other (optionally with nodes sized by citation
       | count). We currently have keyword search, and a network search
       | (called Explore) that scans for highly connected articles up to
       | two degrees away from your map(s) and/or keyword searches. Lastly
       | the project state is nice because as you build up key articles,
       | network search is more targeted, and you can opt into email
       | updates if there are any newly published works that connect to
       | your map as we update our dataset.
       | 
       | It's currently in early access so it's free to use, and you don't
       | need to create an account to get started. You can dive right in
       | and start finding relevant articles to what you are working on or
       | are interested in. Keen to hear feedback on our work so far.
       | Thanks.
        
         | austinjp wrote:
         | I'm out and about on mobile at the moment, so can't check in
         | detail. But I just wanted to say thank god you're doing this.
         | Academia is desperately in need of (r)evolution in many areas.
        
           | axtonpitt wrote:
           | Thanks for the kind words, we'll hopefully have a mobile
           | version one day soon.
        
         | jpeloquin wrote:
         | I love being able to explore citation graphs this way. I tried
         | creating a couple of maps from recently published seed articles
         | (from Pubmed, if it matters) and found that only 50-60% of the
         | cited works showed up in the map. I assume this reflects
         | incompleteness of the underlying public citation data? Is there
         | any way users can help fill in the gaps?
        
         | anigbrowl wrote:
         | I like it and can see myself using it a lot. Looking forward to
         | trying it with my whole collection rather than individual
         | papers, though I also expect this will bring my computer to a
         | screeching halt XD
         | 
         | One gripe: when asked for a paper title, I tried submitting a
         | DOI link instead and it failed dismally. You could probably
         | reduce server load for title lookup by allowing this as an
         | alternative.
         | 
         | Also, I would like some sort of visual indicator to distinguish
         | between works-cited-by a paper and works-which-cite the same
         | paper. Just glancing at the map, it's not that obvious which is
         | which from color or shape and they're mixed up in the default
         | listing. When I find an interesting paper I often want to dig
         | into its antecedents first and look at its influence afterward,
         | but I don't see a clear visual representation of temporality
         | here.
        
         | drewbuschhorn wrote:
         | That looks really great! In my attempt to do something similar
         | ( https://github.com/drewbuschhorn/DoctorMoon ) I kept having
         | issues from the various publisher's apis not playing nice with
         | each other. How are you guys shimming around that for general
         | science?
         | 
         | Have you considered flagging paths for publications that get
         | retracted? I've always thought that a 'this paper you're using
         | has three retracted parent papers,' would be valuable.
         | 
         | Excited to see where you guys go with this!
        
         | vogon_laureate wrote:
         | Just had a quick play around with it and it is really well
         | executed and quite a useful tool. I'm recommending it to my
         | academic and research friends. Hats off to you and the team.
        
           | axtonpitt wrote:
           | Thanks a lot, will pass on the feedback.
        
         | throwaway888abc wrote:
         | Mind maps maniac here, super helpful tool! The user experience
         | is delightful. Thanks and best of luck with all. You have new
         | user.
        
         | cableclasper wrote:
         | This is brilliant work. I've been playing with this for the
         | last half hour and have found cool papers that I otherwise
         | wouldn't have. To me, this has a great edge over google scholar
         | and lens.
         | 
         | A wishlist:
         | 
         | 1) To be able to share maps with fellow researchers, not as
         | pdfs or bib files, but as a url to the map so that they can
         | interact with it. I can see that a "share link" is possible for
         | an article, but not for a custom map. Such a link could also be
         | used to embed such maps on sites like how one can with plots
         | from https://ourworldindata.org/
         | 
         | 2) To be able to get more metadata like sponsor, country, etc.
         | like https://www.lens.org does.
         | 
         | 3) To be able to upload pdfs and annotate them. I can see why
         | this is dicey, but if possible, would be great to see an
         | integration with something like
         | https://fermatslibrary.com/margins
         | 
         | > It's currently in early access so it's free to use, and you
         | don't need to create an account to get started.
         | 
         | I know software developers need to eat and totally respect your
         | choice in making it a paid service in the future, but I will
         | confess a deep desire for such a thing to be affordable, if not
         | free.
        
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