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Show HN: I made a sandbox game to help with financial planning
Author : pattle
Score : 362 points
Date : 2021-04-22 08:01 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| iso1631 wrote:
| So you're assuming you're lucky enough to get a fairly high
| paying job (for 2002) straight out of school within walking
| distance of your mum's house, first job you applied for too? The
| rent is tiny, the expenses seem really low too.
|
| For comparison my first job which required a uni degree and was
| in central london in 2003 was PS18k a year. Rent on a bedsit was
| PS520 a month, transport was PS120 a month, student loan PS59 a
| month, leaving PS100 a week for food, bills (internet,
| electricity, tv, council tax, laundry+dry cleaning, etc), travel
| to see families, etc
|
| It's a great way of showing the massive leg-up that people who
| have parents living in the London commuter-belt get though.
| [deleted]
| cudder wrote:
| I tried to buy a property, they took my money but I never got
| anything for it. :(
| dddddaviddddd wrote:
| This happened when I tried to buy in cash (without a mortgage).
| Rinum wrote:
| Scams exist in the real world too, so realistic!
| lelanthran wrote:
| Me too :-(
| benja123 wrote:
| This is really really cool and is the kind of thing schools
| should use to teach kids about money management.
|
| I would make the next turn button a bit more prominent as I did
| not notice it at first. I would also maybe add a bit more of a
| tutorial. Really cool and keep it up.
| pattle wrote:
| Thanks, that's kind of my end goal. In the UK we really aren't
| taught how to manage our finances in school but it's an
| invaluable skill.
| alexf95 wrote:
| Concept wise I would agree with some tweaks of course.
|
| However, I think the style of the browser game might be a
| little off-putting for kids as they are not familiar with the
| "old windows" and generally more pixelated style.
| euph0ria wrote:
| It simulates real life pretty well:
|
| - I have an unread email in the inbox but I can't find it
|
| - The banks send me emails with no content in the body, some
| email glitch on their side
|
| - I tried to buy a property, lost my solicitor's fee but never
| got the property
|
| - There are no good jobs available except one underpaid junior
| position
|
| - I pay way too much in tax compared to what I make
| azalemeth wrote:
| This may well be an en-gb locale specific bug. Also, who's mum
| charges rent?
| joshxyz wrote:
| LOL
| astura wrote:
| Most of the people I went to high school with? In my
| neighborhood/school, most children, when they become
| teenagers, are expected to get a job to help with the family
| bills. Personally, my parents didn't expect that of me, but
| theirs expected it of them and they both did. Most of my
| peers at school/work did so too. This is probably mostly a
| poor person thing.
|
| However, once you're done with your education entirely,
| unless there's extenuating circumstances like severe
| disability, you absolutely should be mostly paying your own
| living expenses, even if you're living with someone else.
| LightG wrote:
| You must have lived the good life.
|
| My mum didn't charge me rent, she charged me a ...
| "contribution".
| euph0ria wrote:
| I think it's pretty common in Sweden at least to pay rent to
| your parents that cover your cost (food + symbolic rent) if
| you have a job and you're done with high school + uni.
| recentdarkness wrote:
| Mine did when I was working :P
| sefrost wrote:
| Everyone I know living with their parents after university
| pays "bed and board".
| Smaug123 wrote:
| Indeed, it's pretty normal, though it's usually not at the
| rate you'd extract from a formal lodger.
|
| https://www.onefamily.com/talking-finance/finance/should-
| you...
|
| > According to a survey by My Job Quote people over the age
| of 18 and living with their parents pay on average PS230 per
| month to their parents in rent - 65% less than the PS690
| median rent in England in 2018.
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| Mine did :). Or rather, I volunteered to do so, once I landed
| my first proper job during university years.
| bengale wrote:
| Most people I knew got free lodging up until they were 18 or
| still in education, after that you had to chip in.
| p1necone wrote:
| Mine charged me rent (once I was finished highschool and was
| working), saved it, and then gave it all back when I moved
| out.
| theluketaylor wrote:
| A friend's parents had a similar system I thought made a
| lot of sense. While you were in post-secondary schooling no
| rent. They collected rent if you were just working or
| laying about, but that money was available for tuition
| whenever you want it.
| baq wrote:
| _scribbles down notes furiously_
| teekert wrote:
| Haha, yes, this is a good tip!
| cssinate wrote:
| Similarly, when I did post-secondary, my parents paid for
| all of my books but made me pay for my own tuition. When I
| graduated, they wrote me a cheque for the amount of all my
| tuition combined.
| drewzero1 wrote:
| Wow! That sounds like my experience, except minus the
| part about the check. I feel like my parents did as well
| as they could for me though, and they taught me to save
| money in a healthy way after college.
| tut-urut-utut wrote:
| The list goes even further:
|
| - I paid off the mortgage, but the bank just kept taking money
| from me every month
|
| - After some time, I noticed that there's again rent to mum in
| addition to the mortgage. The property is still there.
| mpeg wrote:
| I have two properties, still live at home with mum since I'm
| paying her rent and both my properties sit empty while the
| bank keeps taking money from a fully paid off mortgage.
|
| Just like real life!
| digitalsin wrote:
| Plugged in my printer and got a BSOD :(
| jermaustin1 wrote:
| This is exactly my type of game. I love the concept. There are a
| lot of bugs though. Do you have an issues page or anything? And
| are you open to working with other developers on it?
| pattle wrote:
| Not really open to working with anyone else on this, I prefer
| to work alone.
|
| No issues page but I'm going to work through all the bugs
| highlighted in the comments.
|
| I think my email is in my profile if you want to report
| anything specific / request a feature.
| bendtb wrote:
| This was surprisingly fun.
| DocTomoe wrote:
| The idea is great, but it gives some very weird ideas, like
| having 4% interest p.a. (not something I think still happens in
| the west). Maybe add a stock market fonds aspect in there (which
| may rise and fall), have more risky, more potentially lucrative,
| and less risky, more stable fonds in there.
| logikblok wrote:
| Great work. I was surprised to see it UK based but it was good. I
| think it'll help reinforce ideas of saving, pensions and forward
| thinking. Things you may want to consider:
|
| - Gain graph? Some type of means to show how the gains have
| earned. Understand you're opting for a simulation of reality but
| it might help with understanding what is going on.
|
| - Economic changes / opportunities? New stock, new financial
| products or travel opportunities. The email inbox is quite neat
| and it allows perhaps for these events to be introduced.
|
| You may also like some of the mechanics from:
| https://thefounder.biz/play/ https://graebor.itch.io/sort-the-
| court
| trickstra wrote:
| I changed job and suddenly started paying rent to mum even when
| I've had my own house for 2 years... payment for mortgage and to
| mum are right next to each other.
|
| It would be nice if the houses showed the energy expenses and
| fees. And mortgages show the interest rate and the expected
| monthly payments.
|
| Oh, and every property still shows the green "Purchase
| successful" message since I bought the first property.
| jermaustin1 wrote:
| Mum better be refunding all this rent she's been stealing over
| the years since I moved out!
| callamdelaney wrote:
| Mum ran out of money..
| trickstra wrote:
| Ok, buying a second house fixed the rent to mum, but getting a
| second mortgage caused the first one to never finish. Now I'm
| paying forever, lol.
| parksy wrote:
| Kinda fun idea and with a bit of polish could be great. If you
| enter a negative amount when you transfer between accounts it
| does weird things...
| [deleted]
| usgroup wrote:
| Please think of a way to make a board game that teaches folks the
| consequences of all the typical life decisions we have in common.
| I think it'd be a considerable service to society.
| tux3 wrote:
| Friendly tip: Do not transfer negative amounts! They get
| substracted from _both_ sides =)
| pattle wrote:
| Oops, I will fix that
| Aeolun wrote:
| This is fun. It's pretty buggy though.
|
| I bought two properties so far (hindsight is awesome), but I'm
| still paying rent to mom, apparently I didn't move in.
|
| Now I cannot sell or rent them out.
|
| Also, not much happens? I just sit here watching numbers go up.
| jokethrowaway wrote:
| Sounds exactly like life in this past year of prisony
| yreg wrote:
| I cannot select variable rate on my mortgage, is that a bug?
| killtimeatwork wrote:
| > Also, not much happens? I just sit here watching numbers go
| up.
|
| That describes past 10 years of my life. Fortunately, I'm
| (early) retiring this year.
| tom_mellior wrote:
| > I'm (early) retiring this year.
|
| That's the most important missing feature. After 20 years in
| the game, I have a house, a pension fund, and a savings
| account with a montly growth twice my monthly expenses. At
| this point there is zero incentive to continue working for
| ~30 more years.
|
| IRL I hope to be there around age 50. No matter how much I
| enjoy my job, 40 hours of "enjoyment" per week is a lot more
| than I want.
| ricardobeat wrote:
| I played for around 10 minutes, quite fun. Some comments:
|
| - how would you get 4% gains in real life? it makes a massive
| difference, but you're unlikely to reach this unless the money is
| put into the stock market
|
| - was unable to sell my property (the "request valuation" button
| does nothing)
|
| - the university option never showed up
|
| - there were no further jobs after ~12 years of career (stopped
| at something like engineering manager at ~45k/year which is very
| low for London)
|
| - advancing month-by-month is pretty slow. there should be a way
| of fast-forwarding to important events (new job, promotion,
| housing market goes up/down, etc)
|
| - had to transfer $ to savings / pension in batches every year or
| so, losing out on a lot of interest. should be possible to set a
| monthly amount
|
| - the expenses are way too stable to reflect real life
|
| I ended the simulation at 35 years old, with EUR200k savings,
| EUR60k mortage equity, and EUR80k on a pension fund. Living on a
| EUR100k house, no car, no gifts, no travel, no family. It's not
| bad, but for someone saving fiercely from 18 years without any
| major expenses it's not a great result. Getting a high-paying job
| (80k+) around your 30s will land you in the exact same place,
| while giving you 12 years to live more liberally.
| llimos wrote:
| It starts out set in 2002. You could absolutely get 4% on a
| savings account in 2002.
| SilasX wrote:
| That's not what I remember. I couldn't find data for 2002,
| but this[1] shows that savings accounts paid 0.6% at the end
| of 2003. Savings rates also generally track short-term
| Treasury rates, and those were below 2% for all of 2002. [2]
|
| Edit: Never mind, OP said this for the UK (which, nice rates
| btw). Leaving this comment for the links to US comparisons.
|
| [1] https://www.ncua.gov/analysis/cuso-economic-data/credit-
| unio...
|
| [2] https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-
| center/i...
| pattle wrote:
| The interest is set at 4% because that was typical for a
| savings account in the UK when the game starts (2002) but I
| need to make it change over time
|
| Yes I need to add more jobs and different career paths. Once I
| add universities the type of job you can get will depend on
| your degree.
|
| I'm going to add a dating aspect to the simulation so you can
| start a family and see the expenses associated with that.
|
| Setting a monthly savings amount is a good idea.
|
| Still a very early stage, rough round the edges simulation at
| the moment
| iso1631 wrote:
| Why can't I buy Amazon shares from the start? :D
| pattle wrote:
| Ha, I want to add investments but it would have to be
| random-ish. No point in using historical data for share
| prices because that would make it a bad simulation if you
| already know the result.
| eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 wrote:
| Is it correct that the mortgage keeps on billing me even though
| it is in negative balance = paid off, and the 1 year I have set
| it to has also expired?
| ComodoHacker wrote:
| Not sure if all of these are bugs, but:
|
| - I was able to purchase a property for only PS1100
|
| - To buy without mortgage, you should explicitly enter 0 as
| mortgage amount
|
| - This purchase didn't appear in my current account as a
| transaction, only the balance decreased correctly
|
| - The property didn't appear on Property tab (but I started to
| get utility bills)
|
| - No interest on pension account
| xjlin0 wrote:
| Very fun game! Some observations: 1. don't know
| why it need to calls to get https://simulator.money/img/windows-
| xp-bg.jpg and dings/chimes.mp3 on every month. (Although cached
| by browser) 2. After purchase a property, it does not
| listed under properties tab in the bank, even with monthly
| utility bills. 3. Some missing mails there, maybe associate
| with mismatch unread count. 4. As a player, I am not sure
| what is the unit of "mortgage last", is it month or years?
|
| Very looking forward to other options such as college/cars/jobs,
| etc. Great work!
| paulpauper wrote:
| this look like a vps
| fallat wrote:
| I would love to play a more refined version of this.
| pattle wrote:
| You will be able to, just give me a month
| staticelf wrote:
| Pretty fun.
|
| If you want unlimited amount of money:
|
| Get any job, then edit the "next turn" button to include an id.
|
| Then just run this in the console:
|
| const but = document.getElementById('theidyoupicked');
|
| for (let i = 0; i < 500; i++) { setTimeout(() => but.click(),
| 1000 * i)}
|
| You can lower the amount of time on the timeout, but it seems
| like there is some logic to prevent too fast calls.
|
| But be gentle, it seems like it does a http request each time you
| click on "next turn" (I hope the author has some stable hosting
| because people who play will spam this button anyway).
|
| I have hundreds of thousands of money but I cannot see a single
| property or car. It seems like there are a few bugs still.
| duggable wrote:
| Even easier, just apply to the same job an infinite number of
| times at the beginning of the game, and receive multiple
| paychecks per month.
| xyos wrote:
| or even better, modify the annual payment that is sent on the
| request
| npsimons wrote:
| Neat looking, but I've already been playing this "game" IRL for
| the past couple of decades; I really don't feel like grinding all
| over again from scratch.
| sireat wrote:
| Very cool idea and look!
|
| Read the first few emails, checked out the bank and web and
| started advancing next turn.
|
| And... nothing.. just calendar advancing month at a time.
|
| No new e-mails warning me of unemployment, no warnings about
| expiring bank balance.
|
| You'd expect that your bank account at least would go down.
|
| Hopefully, I am not considered dead - incidentally it would be
| realistic to add some actuary data to the game. Not everyone
| makes it retirement.
| szhu wrote:
| Love the theme! Honestly, I would play this game just to spend
| more time in Windows XP.
| josh_carterPDX wrote:
| Great build! I won't go through the glitches that people have
| found since they seem to be pretty common.
|
| I would, however, like to have the ability to automate my
| contributions to savings and the pension (like in real life).
| Other than that, I am going to park this in front of my high
| school senior to see what kind of decisions he makes. Thanks for
| building this!
| rkalla wrote:
| I know this is typically not a well-received style HN comment,
| but the name of the Pension website made me spit out coffee...
| this is a wonderful creation.
| adamrezich wrote:
| the pixel font looks really bad on Windows 10 in Chrome, Edge,
| and Firefox, at 1080p.
| gabereiser wrote:
| You should put a warning that it does not work on mobile. The UI
| isn't compatible. I'll check it again from my laptop later.
| pattle wrote:
| Yeah I as going to do that but never got round to it,
| definitely a desktop experience
| spyke112 wrote:
| Clearly still a work in progress, but the idea is really fun, if
| you're into this sort of thing... I guess I am! One thing though,
| the font is cool and stuff, but really hard to read.
| doublej818 wrote:
| Didn't take me long to figure out the api endpoint to skip to the
| next turn, and after writing literally 3 lines of code in an
| infinite loop...
|
| - The year is now 2030
|
| - I have 300,000 in my bank account
|
| - I own two houses worth 200k
|
| - I'm still paying monthly mortgage payments to a house I fully
| own
|
| - 100k in pension
|
| - All this with just 55k/yr
|
| - Still paying mum rent
| Oberbaumbrucke wrote:
| You can tell its not made in Australia. The bank only let's you
| borrow 4x your income.
| jokethrowaway wrote:
| Tried a calculator and it's 7x? Wow
| pattle wrote:
| Yeah, maximum in the UK is 5x I think but most banks will only
| go up to - 4.5x
| mbielski wrote:
| Interesting, fun. Would be a good idea to put a Settings option
| in the Start menu so that we could change things like bank
| interest rate (4% is nuts, nearly everything in the US is .01%)
| and the currency type, among other things.
| whydoineedthis wrote:
| where is the option to 'become depressed from that long career
| you stuck with and blow all your money on booze and cigarettes?'
| thomasfl wrote:
| Kudos for the realistic user interface!
| nopcode wrote:
| Woah this is just as boring as figuring out in real life. kudos.
| Maofan wrote:
| Really liked the idea and spent 15-20 mins playing it. Would be
| good to save your progress. To be more realistic I shouldn't be
| able to buy a house after about 5 months of salary. Make the
| house prices 10 times more expensive if you want it to more like
| real life!
|
| Also It's not clear to me if I take the job I can't go to
| university? I took the job in the absence of another choice, like
| real life if I got a great alternative offer I would leave the
| job and do that instead.
|
| Nice work :-)
| ricardobeat wrote:
| > I shouldn't be able to buy a house after about 5 months of
| salary
|
| Why not? If you have the cash for the downpayment, a fixed
| contract, and the property is within 4-5x your yearly salary,
| you can definitely get a mortgage. I've seen people do that
| within _a month_ of arriving in a new country & job, depending
| on the local market it's a very smart thing to do.
| trickstra wrote:
| Also, to be more realistic there should be some unexpected
| expenses and disasters, forcing people to have some emergency
| funds available.
| Benlights wrote:
| Why did it start paying rent to mum after owning a property. Also
| why did student load deductions start after taking a better
| paying job?
| pentae wrote:
| This reminds me a bit of "The game of life" back in the 90s
|
| Optimizing life for filling the savings account as fast as
| possible at the expense of everything else has consequences and
| your game should reflect this.
|
| You should have stats including your characters age, health,
| happiness and social skills and have some kind of social media
| app with your friends constantly trying to invite you out for
| concerts, nights out, dating? and so on so that you have constant
| distractions to spend your money on to make it more challenging.
| Not building up the happiness and social skills stats should have
| consequences. You should be able to buy a gym membership to keep
| your health stat from deteriorating.
|
| The consequences of not building up those stats early in your
| life is poor health, shit social skills and no friends except for
| the people you work with. But yay, you're a millionaire I guess?
|
| The real game of life is that it's all a balancing act between
| having your financial house in order while also having a
| fulfilling social life, health, and happiness
| scotty79 wrote:
| I think you vastly overestimate consequences of not spending
| money on things beyond necessities.
|
| One might argue that by spending money on concerts, nights out
| and dating you buy more damage to your health and well being
| than benefit.
|
| You can have friends without money. And you can keep healthy
| for free.
| JackuB wrote:
| I've just had a year like that and I can't wait to spend
| money on nights out again
| vorpalhex wrote:
| In a simulator, I can live with my parents forever. In real
| life, I might get about a day or two.
|
| Most people want to date and find a spouse. Most people want
| friend groups they have a connection to. Most people want
| hobbies that are interesting and fulfilling.
|
| Being healthy is not free. Socializing, reasonable physical
| fitness, food variety.
|
| Sure you could live in the mountains socializing with
| squirrels and doing pushups all day which would save you a
| lot of money - but it would not be the life most people want.
| mcguire wrote:
| Pushups and squirrel parties? Sign me up! :-)
| brailsafe wrote:
| Ya, it's technically possible, but boring and tenous. If you
| won't spend any extra money on socializing, you're going to
| be a snooze to be around.
| cpfohl wrote:
| Sorry, kinda wanted to respond sarcastically, but I'll be
| direct instead:
|
| Hiking, cooking together, playing board games, card games,
| playing music together, exploring, and just talking are all
| inexpensive or free. The most interesting people I've known
| in my life focused on those things anyway.
| learc83 wrote:
| If you're poor, most of those things require some non
| negligible percent of your income---if only just in
| gas/transportation.
|
| But more importantly they require time away from
| working/studying/optimizing for bank account balance.
| scotty79 wrote:
| You can't have friends by just paying them to keep being
| your friends. You have to put in the time either way.
| learc83 wrote:
| I don't see anyone talking about paying people to be your
| friends.
| astura wrote:
| This is hacker news where everyone values their time at
| at least $100/hr. If you're socializing you, at the very
| least, aren't working.
| chakerb wrote:
| That assumption is definitely wrong! Not everyone in HN
| is making around $200k per year. The average in the US is
| about $110k. And still not everyone in HN is in the US or
| being payed US rates.
|
| Of course if you value your time more than what your
| employer is paying you then you either need to leave your
| current job or rethink what's the value of your time.
| mcguire wrote:
| Aside: the HN average in the US may be $110k. The median
| household income is around $60k and the median personal
| income is $35-40k.
| ludamad wrote:
| I find I do that just great with friends and no money,
| until I want to do it far away
| jstummbillig wrote:
| If decently socializing with you requires me to spent extra
| money, you _definitely_ are a snooze to be around.
| learc83 wrote:
| People like to drive outside the city to hike, travel, go
| to restaurants, movies, bars, ballgames, museums etc...
|
| You don't need to spend a huge amount on social stuff,
| but if you are _only_ willing to do completely free
| activities, you are vastly limiting your social circle.
| [deleted]
| jokethrowaway wrote:
| Most people feel the need to have friends.
|
| We're social animals.
|
| For a minority of people that's not the case and keeping up
| with relationships is a chore - even then, keeping some
| friends can be desirable, given we anyway live in a society
| of other human being.
|
| In both cases, generally you spend more money with friends,
| for one reason or another.
| jcpham2 wrote:
| Not all of us are social
| aisofteng wrote:
| A strange comment to leave on a social media site.
| ryandrake wrote:
| OP is not arguing that you don't need friends. Instead: You
| don't need to be constantly spending money in order to have
| a social life.
| mcguire wrote:
| Don't know about you, but much of my social life happened
| over lunches and dinners.
| qPM9l3XJrF wrote:
| "Real Lives" is another interesting game. You get born in a
| random country, weighted by actual rate of births in that
| country, and go from there
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Lives
|
| https://reallivesworld.com/gamers/index.html
|
| Looks like their website is kinda crappy which is a shame.
| Anyway, my parents bought it for me and my siblings when I was
| a kid. And playing it definitely helped me appreciate the fact
| that I was a member of the lucky sperm club compared to the
| vast majority of the global population.
| alexgmcm wrote:
| Yeah, I also played that game and had pretty much the same
| experience as you.
|
| Hopefully, the world has improved somewhat since the game was
| written.
| pattle wrote:
| Thanks for the feedback. Yep I'm planning to add dating /
| social features where you can build a family up over time and
| see how that affects your finances etc.
|
| Just wanted to get something basic working for the moment as I
| know adding all that will get pretty complicated.
| eitland wrote:
| When I read the comments I immediately thought about "Jones in
| the fast lane" from the 90ies, but this seems to be something
| entirely different.
|
| That said a few of you might like to see that game. It is
| available on internet archive, can be played online and is quite
| unusual for its time.
|
| At least I was happy to find it and played it once against the
| Jones AI (it is way funnier with friends).
| gnrlst wrote:
| Interesting to see KnockoutJS still being used in the wild! Cool
| game. Would like some more unexpected events to happen, and the
| Mortgage and Pension emails don't load, and neither does the
| "request valuation" of a bought property.
| pattle wrote:
| Haha yeah, I've been using KnockoutJS since 2015 and use it on
| all my projects. I should probably learn React or something but
| if it does the job I don't see any reason to change yet.
|
| Yes unexpected "life events" is definitely something I want to
| add in the future. Still a very early stage MVP at the moment"
| WesleyJohnson wrote:
| Any intentions of open sourcing?
| jarin_tasnim wrote:
| ou should put a warning that it doe
| prezjordan wrote:
| Wonderful work. Did you use XP.css?
| (https://botoxparty.github.io/XP.css/)
| jarin_tasnim wrote:
| The UI isn't compatible.
| imtringued wrote:
| There are too many problems to count. I got a message with the
| subject "Mortgage in principal" and no text. Same with pensions.
|
| The browser opens new pages without hiding old ones.
|
| Inbox count is wrong.
|
| Buttons aren't responsive (no, I don't mean mobile design). They
| give no indication that something is happening.
|
| Dragging windows is buggy.
|
| There is no loading animation on clicking "next turn", nothing
| that indicates that the month has passed. Just add a dark overlay
| with a black and white loading bar and show the date afterwards.
|
| I tried this in Chromium and Firefox and the problems are the
| same.
| rkimb wrote:
| This is an awfully harsh critique for a free browser game made
| in someone's spare time.
| ryandrake wrote:
| Hopefully the author takes the critiques as validation that
| the idea is so interesting that rando Internet people will
| provide free bug reporting. The game concept is good, and it
| was brave to release it in an unfinished state to get
| feedback. Hope author stays encouraged and buckles down to
| fix the bugs now. Cool concept. The Windows UI isn't my cup
| of tea but that's subjective. I like the idea of a personal
| finance simulator/sandbox.
|
| Would be cool if you could do a "quick" game that was year-
| by-year steps.
| pattle wrote:
| I think part of these problems is that my server and database
| are really struggling with the traffic I'm getting.
|
| Trying to implement performance fixes
| bovermyer wrote:
| What's the database for?
| pattle wrote:
| Storing mail, transactions, jobs, savings, pension etc. You
| can't at the moment but I was to add the ability to save
| your progress soon.
| elil17 wrote:
| I'm really glad I read the disclaimer and didn't make financial
| decisions based on this game! I wouldn't want to count on no
| inflation, 4% interest, and a junior dev job straight out of high
| school
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