[HN Gopher] Statement from UMN CS&E on Linux Kernel Research
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       Statement from UMN CS&E on Linux Kernel Research
        
       Author : finnthehuman
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2021-04-21 19:15 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | ivraatiems wrote:
       | Who would ever believe that this department _only just_ found out
       | about research that 's been ongoing for a couple of years and has
       | resulted in published papers? UMN isn't a small school, but I
       | find it hard to imagine that it's so big _nobody_ in the
       | department knew about or reported this.
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       | What does it mean to "suspend" a line of research that has
       | already resulted in publications?
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       | I think it's much more likely that this unprofessional/unethical
       | conduct has now reached a level where they know they have no
       | choice but to respond, so they're trying to limit their
       | liability.
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       | That said, I also fault the kernel maintainers, a little, for
       | reacting the way they did - how much of the huge reaction and
       | mass reversion was being angry about the ethics of the situation,
       | and how much was embarrassment that much of it managed to go
       | undetected? Though what they did should never have been done, it
       | does seem like the researchers' point has been proved somewhat.
        
       | forgotpwd16 wrote:
       | Post on UMN site at https://cse.umn.edu/cs/statement-cse-linux-
       | kernel-research-a....
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       | HN discussion related to it at
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26895510.
        
       | cestevens wrote:
       | While the very least they could do in response to their ban, even
       | this response feels a bit wishy-washy. I'll be quite concerned
       | about the "if needed" in their statement doing quite a lot of
       | work. And given the "as soon as practical" in the end I won't be
       | surprised if they just wait and do nothing.
       | 
       | Hopefully they prove my fears unjustified.
        
         | detaro wrote:
         | I found these statements by the associate department head
         | interesting:
         | https://twitter.com/lorenterveen/status/1384955467051454466 and
         | https://twitter.com/lorenterveen/status/1384965754714476552
        
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