[HN Gopher] Python Software Foundation Is Hiring a Python Packag...
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Python Software Foundation Is Hiring a Python Packaging Project
Manager
Author : rbanffy
Score : 79 points
Date : 2021-04-20 20:59 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (pyfound.blogspot.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (pyfound.blogspot.com)
| pood wrote:
| The salary range seems kinda low for the job's probable level of
| frustration. That said I may apply.
| hprotagonist wrote:
| thank fuck for that. There's a lot of good stuff being done and a
| cat-herder with funding is desperately needed to keep it moving.
| kaesar14 wrote:
| This is fantastic. Wholly support non-profit funded employees
| working to maintain system critical open source software like
| Python.
| cmlag wrote:
| The Steering Council is Microsoft, Google, Bloomberg and has
| already stifled free development and opinions.
|
| I expect that corporations will get even more power with full
| time employees and very little will be accomplished.
| coldtea wrote:
| You mean they will stiffle all those wonderful things
| accomplished the last 30 years in the Python Packaging
| ecosystem? /s
| acdha wrote:
| > has already stifled free development and opinions.
|
| This is a very strong statement. Do you have any details
| about what you're claiming or supporting evidence?
| kaesar14 wrote:
| Lol someone taking a little more power with Python packaging
| would be nice
| Master_Odin wrote:
| Can the python packaging story get much worse? It's a huge
| blemish and way too much fragmentation and after market
| solutions, and of course the mental overhead of virtualenvs
| or else you clobber your environment.
|
| One thing I keep hoping will get advanced in is PEP-582 to
| incorporate a local __pymodules__ folder since it would be
| nice if getting a python project up and running was as easy
| as node or php.
| rrdharan wrote:
| Is it fair to call this non-profit funded? The money comes from
| Bloomberg and Google.
| Godel_unicode wrote:
| The PSF, which is the organization hiring for this job, is a
| non-profit. As with virtually all non-profits, the PSF is
| funded largely by donations.
| lacker wrote:
| I'm happy to see this. The python packaging ecosystem is
| frustratingly nonstandardized, particularly the split between
| conda and pip. Now that the Python 2->3 migration has mostly been
| dealt with, hopefully the community is able to improve the
| packaging situation.
| muh_gradle wrote:
| Could not agree more
| di wrote:
| Hi, PSF director and PyPI maintainer here! Happy to answer any
| questions about this role.
|
| This joins our other open position for a CPython Developer-in-
| Residence: https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-psf-is-
| hiring-devel...
| scrollaway wrote:
| Have you talked to the author(s) of Poetry about the job? Or at
| least a collab?
| di wrote:
| As far as I'm aware, we haven't talked to anyone specific
| about the role, but they're welcome to apply, of course.
|
| Note that this is for a full-time project and community
| manager, not a developer (although there may be some
| overlap).
| pydry wrote:
| This is pretty exciting. There's a lot of cruft there that nobody
| dealt with - often because nobody really saw it as their job to
| do so.
| mikepurvis wrote:
| Hopefully the role prioritizes blessing existing good practices
| and creating migration paths and decent interop vs creating new
| things and pulling an xkcd 927.
|
| I know everyone's got their favourite thing to be fed up about in
| the Python packaging ecosystem, but for me it's definitely
| `setup.cfg` vs `pyproject.toml`.
| di wrote:
| Have you seen PEP 621? It sets a standard for putting metadata
| in `pyproject.toml`.
|
| https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0621/
| mikepurvis wrote:
| I'm well aware. Have you seen this drama about it?
|
| https://github.com/python/mypy/issues/5205#issuecomment-4102.
| ..
| di wrote:
| That comment was made two years before PEP 621 even
| existed.
| sigzero wrote:
| There really isn't any "drama" in that discussion.
| pyproject.toml is the way forward and projects will need to
| adopt it at some point.
| Thorentis wrote:
| Happy to see an alternative to json and YAML being used. TOML
| has been a delight whenever I've used it.
| 1wd wrote:
| Getting TOML support in the Python standard library should be a
| high priority. Sad it was neglected for Python 3.10 despite
| affirmations.
| afarrell wrote:
| Is the need for a project manager or a product manager?
|
| I'm pretty sure that python is going to have an ongoing need for
| attention to be paid to its packaging ecosystem. Approached
| holistically, this would include the documentation and other
| aspects of developer experience.
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