[HN Gopher] Product placements may be added to classic films
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       Product placements may be added to classic films
        
       Author : daverol
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-04-19 09:18 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
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       | Nextgrid wrote:
       | > Roy Taylor, the chief executive of Californian-based business
       | Ryff, says his firm is taking digital product insertion one stage
       | further. > It has developed the technology whereby the product
       | placement is targeted at individuals, and changes depending on
       | who is watching.
       | 
       | A film is supposed to be an experience, and the products/brands
       | within it (whether "organic" or "placed" with the approval of the
       | cast) is part of it. I don't like how they're planning to change
       | it dynamically.
        
         | dTal wrote:
         | I think it goes far beyond that. Silently tailoring experiences
         | right down to the personal level compromises our shared
         | understanding of reality and fractures society. I believe this
         | kind of thing is responsible, in no small part, for the
         | increased political tensions we see today. How can we have a
         | democracy when everyone gets custom-made propaganda, and no one
         | knows what's being whispered into anyone else's ear?
        
         | loceng wrote:
         | I believe this is how you see "real life" ad placements when
         | watching sports events through TV - custom insert based on
         | viewer/household demographic.
        
         | axaxs wrote:
         | Yeah, not a fan either. Netflix has done at least a couple
         | 'choose your own adventure' style films. The idea itself
         | is...fun. Maybe I'm boring, but I just don't like it. I want to
         | be told a story, not decide the story myself.
        
           | PhillyG wrote:
           | Something made to be a choose your own adventure is a
           | different experience to a film - it's a lazy video game
           | basically.
        
         | PhillyG wrote:
         | Yeah at present, people can see a film separately but still
         | talk in depth about tiny details of it. When this tech is in
         | place but new some conversations are going to get confusing.
         | Once everyone is used to it it'll be a slight annoyance, and
         | something that some people will actively avoid - perhaps
         | putting premium prices on original copies.
        
           | Red_Leaves_Flyy wrote:
           | >premium prices on original copies
           | 
           | This is only possible if sharing and copying is made
           | impossible. History is on the side of the sharers. I'd rather
           | miss the cultural experience of the millennia than buy into
           | shenanigans like this.
        
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       | MikeUt wrote:
       | "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book
       | rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and
       | street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.
       | And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute."
        
       | emptyparadise wrote:
       | Isn't piracy great? You get a single file that you can be certain
       | will not change the next time you watch it!
        
         | jtmetcalfe wrote:
         | Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.2160p.x265.DTS-
         | HD.MA.5.1-NO-COKE-AD.torrent
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | If you want the good one, the title should just be Star Wars.
           | The episode number and subtitle were added later; at that
           | point who cares who provided the blue milk.
        
       | sorokod wrote:
       | There is a lot of cultural history out there just waiting to be
       | monetized. Why limit ourselves to films? How about (e)books and
       | music? Anything in a digital format really.
        
       | jxidjhdhdhdhfhf wrote:
       | I'm imagining a black and white Oscar Schindler cracking open a
       | beautiful, bright red can of Coca Cola and taking a sip.
        
       | gentleman11 wrote:
       | Imagine if some inspired tech founder started adding product
       | placement to the paintings in the louvre (which were recently
       | made viewable online here https://collections.louvre.fr/en/).
        
         | deeblering4 wrote:
         | s/if/when
        
       | jka wrote:
       | If paid placements had to be declared, strangely this might not
       | turn out so badly.
       | 
       | "Ah, time to sit down for a relaxing film this evening. Shall we
       | watch the romantic comedy where Coca-Cola paid $20,000 to place a
       | can of Fanta in a sex scene -- everyone's talking about it -- or
       | perhaps this independent science fiction film; it's a new
       | director, no product placement?"
        
       | franksvalli wrote:
       | This idea is actually pretty old. Old episodes of Groucho Marx's
       | "You Bet Your Life" have a place in the frame for advertisers to
       | be superimposed and swapped out.
       | 
       | Doing this on a gameshow seems strangely acceptable, but don't
       | touch the old films please. Even though old films themselves have
       | product placement (continuing with the Marx Brothers - you can
       | see an old cartoon-style flit gun in Animal Crackers (1930),
       | which was used for one of the earlier product tie-ins),
       | manipulating them seems wrong. People want to experience the
       | movie as it was intended to be...
        
       | tengbretson wrote:
       | Now they just have to figure out how to break into my house and
       | swap out my DVDs I suppose.
        
       | oriettaxx wrote:
       | omg, I remember Fellini was pissed when Italian TV channels
       | (first the Berlusconi private network, then the state TV, too)
       | started to interrupt his movies with Adverts.
       | 
       | now this.. :(
       | 
       | omg, we will need a movie AdBlocker :(
        
         | franksvalli wrote:
         | Strangely relevant link:
         | https://harpers.org/archive/2021/03/il-maestro-federico-fell...
         | 
         | Scorsese lamenting the lack of Fellini magic today, and the
         | increase in commercialism:
         | 
         | ""Content" became a business term for all moving images: a
         | David Lean movie, a cat video, a Super Bowl commercial, a
         | superhero sequel, a series episode."
        
       | fluxinflex wrote:
       | If you could do one of two things:
       | 
       | 1. Puts ads into old movies, or 2. Fix climate change
       | 
       | what what you do?
       | 
       | I know what humankind would do.
        
       | braveneww wrote:
       | They will have to find an equilibrium between the optimal number
       | of old movies to cancel, or retain to shove ads in.
        
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