[HN Gopher] Mac Plus made of legos at 1:1 scale
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       Mac Plus made of legos at 1:1 scale
        
       Author : lisper
       Score  : 90 points
       Date   : 2021-04-18 18:14 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | kwertyoowiyop wrote:
       | "The Macintosh was the first home computer from Apple."
       | 
       | Sigh.
        
         | racl101 wrote:
         | Maybe the first one Steve considered his real baby. Unlike his
         | biological daughter.
         | 
         | Hiyo!
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | I'm sure the "other" Steve didn't feel that way.
        
         | dev_tty01 wrote:
         | Yeah, that's a big miss. A single web search would have easily
         | cleared this up.
        
           | dwohnitmok wrote:
           | By "big miss" I suspect you mean that this is a miss by Lego
           | System A/S, but this is in fact a post by a random Lego user,
           | not the company itself.
        
         | mproud wrote:
         | Yep, absolutely not true.
        
         | Someone wrote:
         | and color screens. That alienates old-timers and misinforms
         | youngsters.
        
       | crooked-v wrote:
       | Now if only it had building instructions or an LDraw or BrickLink
       | Studio model file.
        
       | evolve2k wrote:
       | Lovely product. One thing though;
       | 
       | I would have preferred if they had stuck with gray on gray to
       | simulate a black and white monitor for the display screens.
       | 
       | The "hello" from Steve Jobs launch event would have been nice a
       | nice inclusion, but looks simple enough to change for any user of
       | this "kit" in future.
        
       | sneak wrote:
       | I recently was surprised to discover that original Macintoshes
       | and Mac Pluses and the like are actually easier to get on eBay
       | these days than Power Mac 8600s/9600s.
        
         | incanus77 wrote:
         | I got a Mac Plus recently locally via Craigslist for about
         | $150, including the original rainbow logo carrying case.
         | Getting an 800K system floppy together, though... that took
         | some work.
        
       | gjvc wrote:
       | "Lego", not "Legos", please.
       | 
       | Sigh.
        
         | jjeaff wrote:
         | I don't think corporate marketing departments get to demand
         | changes to the English language. It seems like the much more
         | common usage in the wild is legos, regardless of what corporate
         | and pedants want people to use.
        
           | Marazan wrote:
           | Only in America.
           | 
           | The UK uses lego as the plural for lego.
        
           | chrisseaton wrote:
           | But isn't it more kind to respect the wishes of the people
           | who created and named it in the first place?
           | 
           | Yes you've got every right to continue to be ignorant after
           | it's been explained to you... but I mean why aspire to do
           | that?
        
             | hrktb wrote:
             | I'd be with you if there was any kind of consensus on this.
             | 
             | For instance GIF's creator clarifying the pronounciation of
             | his file format was mostly met with a mild middle finger.
             | Is the Lego company meriting more bending backwards than
             | him ?
        
               | crooked-v wrote:
               | It's basically the same treatment that any company wants:
               | "Kleenex tissues", "Google searches", "Band-Aid
               | bandages", "LEGO bricks", etc. This is for trademark
               | reasons, because not vigorously defending the 'proper'
               | use of the term can lead it to becoming genericized and
               | usable by anyone. For an example of this happening in
               | practice, "aspirin" was originally a Bayer trademark that
               | was lost through genericization.
        
               | matja wrote:
               | > NEVER add a possessive "s", plural "s" or hyphen, e.g.
               | LEGO's design, more LEGOs to play with, LEGO-bricks.
               | 
               | reference: https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/legal/assets/blt1a
               | 4c9a959ce8e1cb...
        
             | hu3 wrote:
             | This reply is disproportionately mean. Please don't call
             | people ignorant because they disagree with your opinion.
        
           | hanoz wrote:
           | I've never heard anyone say Legos, it sounds nonsensical to
           | my ear. Lego is the system. You've got Lego men, Lego wheels
           | and Lego bricks. If you're referring to a Lego brick as 'a
           | Lego', then fair enough. But who does that?
        
             | hnlmorg wrote:
             | Exactly this. Lego is the construction brand. The
             | individual pieces are bricks et al.
        
               | fnord123 wrote:
               | Legos refers to the lego bricks like waters can refer to
               | multiple glasses of water even though water is a mass
               | noun and usually doesn't exist in plural. Same with
               | peoples meaning multiple groups of people.
        
               | sturadnidge wrote:
               | Sheep is perhaps a better example for comparison with
               | Lego. Unless you know of an example where 'sheeps' has
               | legitimate usage.
        
             | ncallaway wrote:
             | Every person I've ever interacted with has said "do you
             | want to play legos?" or some variant of it. I've never once
             | been asked "do you want to play with Lego bricks?"
             | 
             | So, in answer to your "who does that?" question my
             | anecdotal response would be "everyone"
             | 
             | Language probably just varies a lot from place to place
        
         | sneak wrote:
         | I don't capitalize mac and I regularly use definite and
         | indefinite articles to describe the iPhone.
         | 
         | Sometimes I even call them MacBook Pros.
        
           | toast0 wrote:
           | > MacBook Pros.
           | 
           | MacsBook Pro.
        
           | ziml77 wrote:
           | I prefer seeing fully lowercase mac over MAC
        
             | hnlmorg wrote:
             | MAC is something entirely different:
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | naturally, mac isn't an acronym, it's just shortened. I
             | would have to ask the GP if they write steve in place of
             | Stephen or cat in place of Catherine. A name is a name; use
             | a cap.
        
         | lostlogin wrote:
         | Lego have confirmed this.
         | 
         | https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10839/what-is-th...
         | 
         | https://mobile.twitter.com/lego_group/status/842115345280294...
        
           | EamonnMR wrote:
           | From the chosen answer:
           | 
           | > Of course everyone is free to comply with these corporate
           | demands, but the Lego Group has no authority over the English
           | language to regulate it in this way. So if you want to feel
           | guilty about using "Legos", understand that the only thing
           | you are guilty of is not obeying the demands of a Danish
           | corporation, not for violating the rules of English grammar.
        
             | OJFord wrote:
             | *American English grammar.
             | 
             | It's firmly 'Lego' in the UK.
        
             | Svip wrote:
             | Considering there is English grammar authority either, I
             | guess you can never be violating English grammar rules? You
             | are merely in conflict with some of the English
             | dictionaries out there. So even if the scale is different,
             | it's sort of the same.
        
               | OJFord wrote:
               | Yes, and I find this argument quite tiresome (mainly due
               | to its frequency) on English.SE - Google ngrams are
               | really interesting, but it's not all I'm interested in.
               | If something's a modern 'corruption' (by whoever
               | considers it such) then all an ngram's going to show you
               | is yes (or no) it has (resp. not) been corrupted.
               | 
               | Imagine if English (Language) teachers took the same
               | stance. A+ everyone, if that's how you say it, you're
               | correct, there is no wrong.
               | 
               | (And then is ESL different? Seems like racism is the
               | effective conclusion!)
        
           | OJFord wrote:
           | [Given the nature of this thread, I'm sorry, but I have to do
           | this ;)]
           | 
           | > Lego have [...]
           | 
           | [the company] *has.
        
             | chrisseaton wrote:
             | It's a plural - groups of people are traditionally plural
             | in English.
             | 
             | Apple have announced a new iPhone. The New York Yankees are
             | playing tonight. The Board were due to meet yesterday. Etc.
        
               | frosted-flakes wrote:
               | In _UK_ English. American and Canadian English treats
               | groups as singular, even when the name itself is a
               | plural.  "Apple has", "The United Nations has", etc.
        
               | chrisseaton wrote:
               | It's not _wrong_ to use British English. People using it
               | don 't need to be corrected to use American English.
        
               | frosted-flakes wrote:
               | So why are you trying to make a counter-correction?
        
               | chrisseaton wrote:
               | I'm not telling them to use a plural.
               | 
               | I'm telling them that people who use a plural aren't
               | doing so out of ignorance and don't need to be corrected
               | as if they're making a mistake.
        
               | OJFord wrote:
               | It's (it! You said it yourself!) not a plural, it's a
               | singular company.
               | 
               | It's perhaps clearer if you add a description of _the_
               | company:
               | 
               | > Apple, an American company, has announced a new iPhone.
        
               | chrisseaton wrote:
               | > it! You said it yourself!
               | 
               | 'It' refers to the word there. The thing the word refers
               | to is a plural.
               | 
               | > It's not a plural, it's a singular company.
               | 
               | That's just not traditional in English. What is a company
               | except a group of people? That's what the word 'company'
               | literally means.
               | 
               | Most people in English speaking countries outside US
               | influence would say:
               | 
               | > Apple, an American company, have announced a new
               | iPhone.
        
               | OJFord wrote:
               | I strongly disagree, as does the aforementioned style
               | guide, as does Google Ngram Viewer (BrE even): https://bo
               | oks.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=company+have%2...
               | 
               | What about 'only one of the companies [...]', what'll you
               | say next?
               | 
               | A singular company is formed of a plurality of parts,
               | yes, just as _a_ millipede _has_ many _legs_.
        
               | chrisseaton wrote:
               | I don't understand - are you claiming it's just more
               | common to use the American grammar in all venues? Yes I'm
               | sure it is. But it doesn't make it _wrong_ to use British
               | English that you need to go out of your way to correct
               | them as if they 're making a mistake and don't know any
               | better.
               | 
               | Or are you claiming it has never been commonly accepted
               | British grammar to make company names plural? If you
               | think that then I'm afraid you're just factually
               | mistaken.
        
             | burke wrote:
             | This is a difference between British and North American
             | English. Americans consider a company to be singular;
             | Brits, plural.
        
               | OJFord wrote:
               | I'm British.
               | 
               | (And The Economist's 'Style Guide' 10ed. concurs. (I'm
               | not being selective beyond the extent to which I already
               | am by only having _that_ style guide.) It is of course a
               | global publication, despite  'being' British, but it's
               | entry on 'Americanisms' makes it pretty clear
               | ('sparingly') it prefers a BrE starting point. I can't
               | find anything more explicit on that.)
        
               | burke wrote:
               | Alright. Clearly it's not a consensus view then. Still,
               | every time I've heard things like "Google have", it's
               | been (ESL, or) British English speakers. I don't think
               | I've ever encountered it in American English.
        
         | 15charlimitdumb wrote:
         | The largest lego market,(states) refers to them as legos. See
         | amazon, NPR, ect https://www.google.com/search?q=%22legos%22
        
       | bloopernova wrote:
       | Somewhat off-topic: I built a Python from Elite: Dangerous out of
       | Lego: https://imgur.com/gallery/QNY3fbX
       | 
       | And the Rebrickable custom build page from the designer:
       | https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-69260/TheRealBeef1213/elite...
       | 
       | Apologies if this is too facebook-like. I'll delete the comment
       | if it's too off-topic.
        
       | dwohnitmok wrote:
       | Some commentators seem to think that this is an official Lego
       | set. This is a user-contributed idea that is not in any way
       | endorsed by Lego itself. It would first need popular support and
       | then acceptance by Lego before it became an official set.
        
       | chrononaut wrote:
       | I feel like there was a missed opportunity to put the Sad Mac
       | icon on the screen: https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Sad_Mac
        
       | DonHopkins wrote:
       | >"The different screens can be stored in the back of the Mac when
       | you don't use them."
       | 
       | Don't all Macs have a compartment in the back to store all the
       | files in the computer?
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_o_O7v1ews&ab_channel=James...
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj5HdGjvXcE&ab_channel=AlexM...
       | 
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uHBhKTSe0&ab_channel=Movie...
        
       | everyone wrote:
       | Wow.. A site that actually does GDPR well.
        
       | ChickeNES wrote:
       | Reminds me of this blast from the past:
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20030404112546/http://www.applef...
        
       | berniemadoff69 wrote:
       | are the pictures even real? it looks like a render. what's the
       | point of making it if the end result is photographed in a way
       | that it looks like CGI, in some fake green space? the screen
       | being in color makes no sense either.
        
       | logbiscuitswave wrote:
       | > It's the platinum case color version.
       | 
       | For a _true_ retro feel it should be a shade of yellow.
       | 
       | In all seriousness, I love this. This is incredibly well done.
        
       | dghlsakjg wrote:
       | Now put a raspi in it, and mechanical key switches in the
       | keyboard!
        
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