[HN Gopher] The Human Eye Webcam [video]
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The Human Eye Webcam [video]
Author : zdw
Score : 98 points
Date : 2021-04-09 15:48 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| ccn0p wrote:
| i thought April 1st was last week
| markbnj wrote:
| Made me think of
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Beholder_(video_gam...
| zwieback wrote:
| Would it be even creepier if there were two eyes? Or better? I
| hope we never find out.
| echelon wrote:
| I first saw this on TikTok last year as a variety of human-
| looking body parts that move and blink:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5HAtc9qJ0
|
| It's interesting to see other artists take a concept and run with
| it, extending it in new ways. Now it's cropping up everywhere.
|
| This is going to be a fad for a bit.
| 1-6 wrote:
| One day, little kids will run up to you and try to press your
| moles.
| megous wrote:
| I wonder if it was made out of a fleshlight.
| crispyambulance wrote:
| Interesting, but geez, they really are going deep into the
| "uncanny valley" with that thing.
| gmoore wrote:
| sorry- that's just super creepy
| chki wrote:
| You should watch the full video - that's the point.
| [deleted]
| laretluval wrote:
| NO
| wussboy wrote:
| I hate this. I hate how it looks. I hate that it tracks me around
| the room.
|
| I can't explain this hate. It's just my visceral reaction.
| rektide wrote:
| "it tracks me" is a symptom of a technological regime in which
| we have little control, in which we think of our devices as
| "it's", where we can not form a closer bond & begin to think of
| devices & technology as an extension of ourselves & our will.
|
| devices have some other will, some other purpose, not quite our
| own, enscribed in them when they are delivered to us. i think
| that if we had a paradigm of computing where there were ambient
| neutral sensors peripherals & other capabilities around us, and
| we were permitted the role of orchestrator: i think that socio-
| techno-logical cultural be able to see something like this & be
| excited, be more able to welcome the technology in.
| spoonjim wrote:
| This is outstanding engineering but absolute nightmare fuel.
| bentcorner wrote:
| +1. There's some neat innovations here though - having the eye
| mimic the expression on the other side of the video stream,
| better tracking, _extremely_ obvious on /off states. The eye-
| lid also might give the viewer a more immersive experience
| (movies sometimes use this effect and it works pretty well).
|
| But the whole thing looks disturbing - if this was turned into
| a real product you'd probably want something more cartoony.
| nexthash wrote:
| I think that's the point - we are surrounded by devices that
| are always watching and listening. If they looked like eyes and
| ears, maybe we would think twice about how and where we use
| them.
| jackallis wrote:
| i don't know about you, but i got crepped out.
| xyzzy21 wrote:
| Not creepy at all... NOT.
|
| But maybe that's the point. A webcam already can surveil like
| this.
| sarora27 wrote:
| I'm reminded of the "eye statues" at the dungeon entrance of a
| Legend of Zelda game on Gameboy color:
|
| https://www.purezc.net/Tiles/t1s1.gif
| toxik wrote:
| Or the LINC eye from Beneath a steel sky
|
| http://selmiak.bplaced.net/games/pc/steelsky/27.png
| david422 wrote:
| Good for Halloween maybe. The other 364 days of the year ... no
| thanks.
| waynesoftware wrote:
| Unbelievably creepy
| tywkeene wrote:
| nah man, nah
| graiz wrote:
| Creepy AF.
| hsnewman wrote:
| Now there is a product looking for a market. I suppose people who
| like to be watched (exhibitionists)?
| tomger wrote:
| I take it your attention span is shorter than 2 minutes.
| surround wrote:
| If we thought of cameras as human _eyes_ and microphones as human
| _ears_ then maybe we wouldn 't be as comfortable with internet-
| enabled doorbell cams, or internet-enabled smart speakers in our
| homes, always watching, always listening.
| grawprog wrote:
| Hmmmm so maybe one of these to go with the eye camera?
|
| https://3diosound.com/products/free-space-binaural-microphon...
| fileeditview wrote:
| This image gives me some kind of knee-jerk reaction:
|
| https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0995/9804/products/3Dio_FS.
| ..
|
| It somehow says: how to dull your senses and use a gimmick to
| replace them.
|
| Note: this product may be of use.. this is just my reflex on
| seeing this.
| grawprog wrote:
| The other commenter is likely right. My other comment was
| mostly a joke. Those mics are for recording binaural audio.
| Each ear has a directional mic that's positioned
| approximately the same distance as human ears apart.
|
| Audio recorded using them will give a sense of 3d space
| that's supposed to mimic sound as heard by our ears when
| listened to in stereo.
|
| I think they're mostly used for recording ASMR or VR
| content?
|
| Though, I've always wondered if they might give a more live
| kind of sound if used to record acoustic music or
| something.
| tomjakubowski wrote:
| I think that guy is supposed to be recording binaural audio
| with the microphone and monitoring the levels with the
| headphones. Not using the mic to replace his senses.
| megous wrote:
| I'd like to share your optimism.
| rektide wrote:
| Not exactly human eyes, but putting googley eyes on
| robots[1][2] seems to have become one of the primary strategy
| to make scary machine robots feel more anthropomoric & non-
| hostile.
|
| [1] https://www.adweek.com/performance-marketing/giant-
| grocery-s...
|
| [2] https://www.fastcompany.com/90395110/how-googly-eyes-
| solved-...
| falcor84 wrote:
| Would you mind expanding on your thinking regarding the
| doorbell? Wouldn't that just be the same as hiring a doorman to
| stand outside? I don't find that thought particularly
| troubling.
| oliwarner wrote:
| I guess it depends where you live.
|
| If you live in a quiet little cul-de-sac, where nothing ever
| happens, having somebody stand on your site reporting on your
| neighbours' movements might seem --to your neighbours--
| slightly invasive.
| falcor84 wrote:
| I'm not sure about other doorbell cameras, but the basic*
| Ring camera should only trigger the video recording on
| proximity detection, so that's like a very near-sighted
| doorman, who only notices the very nosy neighbors.
|
| *I understand that some more expensive versions do take
| continuous low-energy recordings, and I do find that
| somewhat disturbing.
| antegamisou wrote:
| Someone make a Furby based one.
| Arrath wrote:
| Well, that dredges up some old nightmares.
| ElijahLynn wrote:
| I looked at the date instantly for April 1st, but nope, it is
| April 7th.
| orthecreedence wrote:
| I was kind of hoping it would be a contact that records video.
| Like a spy device or something.
| k_sze wrote:
| Or the interceptor in one of the GotS:SAC episodes.
| wongarsu wrote:
| I don't think we are there yet technologically. The best we
| have are eye implants for the blind that give you a couple
| kilopixels at best. Power delivery and waste heat are major
| limitations.
|
| If I remember right Google Glass was cancelled in part over the
| backlash from the privacy implications of this kind of thing.
| orthecreedence wrote:
| Yeah true, I completely forgot about that angle. Google Glass
| was creepy and dumb, and some kind of eye contact camera
| would be worse.
| DennisP wrote:
| To everyone saying it's creepy, they call it "design fiction" so
| I think that's the point. We really do have little eyes looking
| at us much of the time. If they actually looked like eyes or we
| at least thought of them that way, then maybe we'd think a little
| more about whether we really want them around.
| daniel_reetz wrote:
| Precisely! Also, several other artists have explored this
| space. Golan Levin's Opto-Isolator comes to mind:
| https://vimeo.com/5145369 and also "double taker: snout" if you
| want to see this idea at scale:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjUwH9tOdus
| fortran77 wrote:
| Well, it's more than "fiction" -- the build files are on
| github!
|
| https://marcteys.github.io/eyecam/
| wpietri wrote:
| Speaking of which, are there good, reasonably priced PTZ cameras
| out there? I was thinking about trying to track "interesting"
| activity out my window, but last I looked I couldn't find
| anything hacker-friendly, not expensive, and likely to be
| supported under Linux.
| Miraste wrote:
| I haven't tried it myself, but forums indicate you can get PTZ
| Foscams to work with Shinobi and other Linux-supporting OSS
| camera programs. They're <$100 on eBay depending on model.
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