[HN Gopher] Greeks Bearing Gifts: tracking the labyrinthine path...
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       Greeks Bearing Gifts: tracking the labyrinthine path of
       technology's progress
        
       Author : Hooke
       Score  : 39 points
       Date   : 2021-04-08 05:12 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | wcr3 wrote:
       | complete waste of time.
        
       | rektide wrote:
       | yes indeed it's other people's devices, gifts from afar, we
       | welcome in now. not our progress. not our technology. just gifts.
        
       | rektide wrote:
       | The title "Greeks Bearing Gifts: trakcing the labyrinthine path
       | of technology's progress" goes fairly unremarked in the article,
       | but it left a big impression on me, was something I expected this
       | article to encompass, since it touches less on technology as a
       | stand-alone thing unto itself, and more of how technology is
       | wielded & for whom.
       | 
       | From Steve Talbott's Devices of the Soul[1],
       | 
       |  _" Now, jumping ahead to our own day, I'd like you to think for
       | a moment of the various words we use to designate technological
       | products. You will notice that a number of these words have a
       | curious double aspect: they, or their cognate forms, can refer
       | either to external objects we make, or to certain inner
       | activities of the maker. A "device," for example, can be an
       | objective, invented thing, but it can also be some sort of
       | scheming or contriving of the mind, as when a defendant uses
       | every device he can think of to escape the charges against him.
       | The word "contrivance" shows the same two-sidedness, embracing
       | both mechanical appliances and the carefully devised plans and
       | schemes we concoct in thought. As for "mechanisms" and
       | "machines," we produce them as visible objects out there in the
       | world even as we conceal our own machinations within ourselves.
       | Likewise, an "artifice" is a manufactured device, or else it is
       | trickery, ingenuity, or inventiveness. "Craft" can refer to
       | manual dexterity in making things and to a ship or aircraft, but
       | a "crafty" person is adept at deceiving others.
       | 
       | This odd association between technology and deceit occurs not
       | only in our own language, but even more so in Homer's Greek,
       | where it is much harder to separate the inner and outer meanings,
       | and the deceit often reads like an admired virtue. The Greek
       | techne, from which our own word "technology" derives, meant
       | "craft, skill, cunning, art, or device"--all referring without
       | discrimination to what we would call either an objective
       | construction or a subjective capacity or maneuver. Techne was
       | what enabled the lame craftsman god, Hephaestus, to trap his
       | wife, Aphrodite, in a promiscuous alliance with warlike Ares. "_
       | 
       | It's powerful groundings, and all too often I wonder & I fret
       | about where we stand: how understandable is our technology? How
       | much technology exists that spreads the memetics, the idea of
       | it's means, that illuminates the world? Trying to understand
       | technology feels like being lost in the labyrinth, I fret.
       | 
       | At this point, Ursala Franklin's Holistic and Prescriptive
       | technologies wikipedia link[2] is on my browsers hotlist, it
       | knows real quick where I'm headed, cause I go here a lot.
       | Prescriptive technology is designed to enact control, to perform
       | functions: it's about a mechanism that does the task, does the
       | job. It's the pulley block factory production line mentioned in
       | the article. And modern technology, even social ones, resembles
       | this: use technology to gather posts/pictures/content from all
       | over, bring them together into big data centers, then send that
       | data back out. This is technology as mechanism, a device.
       | 
       | Ursala also describes holistic technologies. These are more the
       | tools Marc Brunel and Henry Maudslay used to create this
       | production line, the tools they used to devise their factory.
       | Holistic technologies don't necessarily have to enlighten &
       | illuminate their users, but they do have to empower them, give
       | the user flexibility.
       | 
       | I have great hopes that computing is a place where we can extend
       | the holistic nature of technology. Where technology is less about
       | deviousness of bending materials & systems &, in communicative
       | capitalism, people, in to a specific form, and more about
       | expanding generally prowess & capability of the weilders. And
       | letting users participate in expanding & augmenting the tooling,
       | letting the user become a tool maker. But, as the article does
       | somewhat mysteriously abruptly shift & wrap up to,
       | 
       |  _" As Daniel Susskind so dismayingly notes, our computational
       | muscle has now reached a point where we can create machines--
       | devices variously mechanical, electronic, or atomic--that can
       | think for themselves. And outthink us, to boot.
       | 
       | [...] and though not all is lost to science since in certain
       | places our ability to perform archaic crafts remains intact,
       | still there is an ominous note sounding not too far offstage."_
       | 
       | [1] https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/devices-of-
       | the/97805965...
       | 
       | [2]
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_Franklin#Holistic_and_p...
        
       | mikewarot wrote:
       | The essential unwritten corollary to this article is the
       | intensely underappreciated importance of understanding exactly
       | how technology works.
       | 
       | Knowledge _is_ power, and far too many people have zero interest
       | in how things actually work. I 'm allergic to such ignorance, if
       | I can find out how something works, generally it is pleasing for
       | me to do so. I suspect this trait is shared universally by those
       | here on HN.
        
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