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EFF's reply to cease-&-desist letter - "Virtual Coachella" parody
video
Author : Magicstatic
Score : 187 points
Date : 2021-04-08 15:55 UTC (7 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.eff.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.eff.org)
| dekhn wrote:
| I read a lot of lawyer letters and I notice they often fall
| within a very specific range of communication styles. It feels
| very.... assertive, even aggressive, in a way that tries to
| eliminate lawsuits through psychology rather than facts.
|
| For example the Texas AG wrote this in a letter to Austin when he
| decided to sue them for overriding the state mask rescinding:
| https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/087ed6e3bf8591d7...
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| "We have already taken you to court under similar circumstances.
| You lost. If you continue to flout the law in this manner, we'll
| take you to court again and you will lose again. "
|
| (a part of the lawsuit was just thrown out a few hours ago)
| ineedasername wrote:
| Perhaps Coachella believes the parody is too close to the truth,
| and therefore no longer parody. Looks like the EFF response
| actually took that into account!
|
| I don't always like the way EFF portrays a given cause in their
| website/blog postings: They often seem over-simplified and
| lacking the detail necessary to understand the specifics of the
| issue in the interest of soliciting donations. Their legal
| filings, on the other hand, are pretty universally fantastic &
| skewering of the opposition.
| rozab wrote:
| Here's the actual video:
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67sfZfreOrU
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| These guys have a lot of relevant content for HN types, they're
| really funny.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7qjN3KF8U
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OnoxKotPQ
| beaconstudios wrote:
| I knew I recognised the name KRAZAM from somewhere These guys
| are hilarious.
| craftinator wrote:
| This brings me back to Snowcrash and Altered Carbon so hard...
| monksy wrote:
| ROBINHOOD IN 2021?!!
|
| Also he forgot .. stocks only go up.
| grenoire wrote:
| The goddam microservices video is an absolute masterpiece.
| prepend wrote:
| Great video. I'm going to use this the next time I want to
| communicate how clever names aren't as clever as I think they
| are.
| cbkeller wrote:
| I think that video may have legitimately improved my
| understanding of the potential pitfalls of microservices
| dominotw wrote:
| It should be required periodic viewing at most software
| shops. Def keeps me grounded.
| darioush wrote:
| finally, someone funny on the internet. haven't seen that since
| early 2000's
| seppin wrote:
| Topic aside that is an excellent comedy video. If SNL made this
| as a "digital short" it would be the best thing they'd had done
| all year.
| pjfin123 wrote:
| These are awesome
| headbee wrote:
| I knew I recognized that name. Glad EFF is sticking up for
| them, they're not a huge channel.
| nceqs3 wrote:
| Krazam's MAKRO MICROSOFT EXCEL video is also hilarious
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| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xubbVvKbUfY
| Magicstatic wrote:
| My favorite part of this response is in the footnote on page two,
| which states:
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| >If your client sincerely fears that this depiction is too
| realistic to be perceived as parody, Krazam's video should be the
| least of its reputational concerns.
|
| Followed by screenshots from the video showing the DocuSign
| "Docustage" and Meme Center (Sponsored by GE). At the end of the
| video itself, the Coachella participant is banned from the event
| because their "vibes are not compliant with the Coachella
| policy".
|
| Glad EFF stepped in here to protect small creators such as this
| one.
| monksy wrote:
| Something that really blew my mind was that one of my favorite
| bands: Metallica's comment on how people are to interact with
| their performances. "Where here to provide the party, if they
| don't like how we do it, that's on them."
|
| It says a lot on the ego of the producer of the product. [Also
| that they're treating it as a product.. yes metallica corporate
| I see you] It completely disreguards of how the individual
| relates to it and is more focused on control on how they want
| things.
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| That whole philosophy you should expect in dictatorships, not
| in cultures that embrace free expression.
| DivisionSol wrote:
| For context, it looks like this is the original tweet from one of
| the video creators:
| https://twitter.com/shivakilaru/status/1372941623609282561
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| Cease and Desist over Instagram.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Is that even recoginizable in court as legit?
| pkilgore wrote:
| For most actual legal doctrines possibly classified as
| standing in for "legit", yes.
|
| Actual notice ("I sent it, you acknowledge you got it")
| suffices for most notice requirement, regardless of
| circumstances of sending and receiving.
|
| Some statues/rules are more specific, but it's impossible to
| answer that without a more specific question.
| 50uth wrote:
| How many people are now aware of Krazam LLC that weren't before.
|
| Backfire!
| CaliLonghair wrote:
| The Streisand Effect strikes again!
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
| aejnsn wrote:
| You beat me to it.
|
| "Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo - Barbra Streisand."
| [deleted]
| thaumasiotes wrote:
| Eh, I don't really see that Coachella cares one way or the
| other if people are aware of Krazam LLC.
| kreeben wrote:
| They cared enough to send a cease & desist letter.
| curryst wrote:
| They don't care about Krazam, but they want this particular
| video to go away. People can be fickle about their music
| and the resulting concerts. People tend to view
| corporations and music (really all art) as orthogonal
| concepts. Art can only be tainted by corporations, therefor
| any kind of corporate music festival can only be subpar.
|
| I suspect they know the accusations are fair, but were
| hoping nobody would call them out for it.
| monkellipse wrote:
| Same energy: https://www.openculture.com/2014/09/monty-python-
| and-the-hol...
| kderbyma wrote:
| they sad they didn't think of those ideas first....or they did
| for this year lol. stupid corporate frisking for comedians. its
| so pathetic
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