[HN Gopher] From Human Beings to Human Civilization, a Complexit...
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       From Human Beings to Human Civilization, a Complexity Profile
        
       Author : dayve
       Score  : 50 points
       Date   : 2021-04-03 15:35 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | 2niceguys wrote:
       | Quoting: 'How often have we been told by various philosophers and
       | universalistic religions about unseen connections between human
       | beings and the collective identity of humanity? Today, global
       | connections are manifest in the economy, in transportation and
       | communication systems'
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       | Now, lets took that and change it into a nightmarish dystopia....
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       | What do you think when you hear 'Pandemic and Population
       | Controll' ? The tracking of cell-phones, every bank and credit
       | tansaction, at the ATM, cemera surveillance, sure also when
       | paying with cash, biometrical, SSN, online-clouds-documents, etc.
       | searchable with metadata.
       | 
       |  _Is it an update ?_
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       | ist it a progess of stabilisation, through liberalism in
       | combination with moralising strategys for the people and against
       | war, with best intentions, made by ten-thousands of intelligent
       | and qualified pupils ?
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       |  _The people are bad!_
       | 
       | How do you feel about it ?
       | 
       | Saying globalization, would you feel better when controlling all
       | the 'contents' is outsourced to china, same with your
       | opportunitie to interact with society and economy ?
       | 
       |  _Is your perspective basing on others ?_
       | 
       | (-;
        
         | meiraleal wrote:
         | This is a frivolous thinking, is like a pawn with a King
         | mindset. Nobody wants to track you, individually, because
         | nobody knows/cares about you. For the collective, you have a
         | value of 1.
        
           | quiescant_dodo wrote:
           | It's not frivolous thinking. I agree with your statement that
           | "you have a value of 1". That's our collective defense
           | mechanism. But as a consequence, we all live with the
           | knowledge that _if we step out of line_, then great powers
           | can be used against us.
           | 
           | Some of those behaviors are generally for the good of society
           | (e.g. 'murder is bad'). But others, like civil forfeiture,
           | are much much more questionable.
        
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