[HN Gopher] The Browser - WorldWideWeb Next Application (2019)
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The Browser - WorldWideWeb Next Application (2019)
Author : karlzt
Score : 80 points
Date : 2021-04-03 13:24 UTC (9 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (worldwideweb.cern.ch)
(TXT) w3m dump (worldwideweb.cern.ch)
| oefrha wrote:
| Discussed at the time:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19249373
| dang wrote:
| Along with an assortment of smaller threads:
|
| _The Browser - WorldWideWeb Next Application_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25013103 - Nov 2020 (8
| comments)
|
| _The Browser - WorldWideWeb NeXT Application_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24955122 - Oct 2020 (1
| comment)
|
| _CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24939929 - Oct 2020 (6
| comments)
|
| _WorldWideWeb_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19494518
| - March 2019 (1 comment)
|
| _CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19249373 - Feb 2019 (44
| comments)
|
| _CERN 2019 WorldWideWeb Rebuild: 2019 rebuilding of the
| original NeXT web browser_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19183316 - Feb 2019 (1
| comment)
| teddyh wrote:
| Something they missed, which was a feature i found notable when I
| first used NeXTSTEP, was that all text was selectable, _even in
| dialog boxes_ ; useful for copying and pasting messages, etc. But
| here in this web app, they seem to have gone out of their way to
| make all text _non_ -selectable.
| tempodox wrote:
| I can select text, both on the landing page and in the
| WorldWideWeb browser. Using Safari on Mac. Are you on mobile?
| teddyh wrote:
| No, desktop. For example, in the menu, click on Info > /
| Panel... I can't select anything in that window, whereas if
| this was real NeXTSTEP, you'd be able to select any text,
| even the text with a gray background.
| cyberlab wrote:
| What's this? Some sort of 98.css[0] type thing that mimics an
| oldskool browser's UI? Because the site is vague on what the UI
| elements are supposed to be for.
|
| [0] hhttps://jdan.github.io/98.css/
| genezeta wrote:
| > What's this?
|
| From the site:
|
| > In February 2019, in celebration of the thirtieth anniversary
| of the development of WorldWideWeb, a group of developers and
| designers convened at CERN to rebuild the original browser
| within a contemporary browser, allowing users around the world
| to experience the rather humble origins of this transformative
| technology.
| SllX wrote:
| Imitation NeXTSTEP actually, to imitate the original operating
| system WorldWideWeb was released on.
|
| Your confusion is understandable though and you don't deserve
| to be buried for it. Win95 and by extension Win98 and later did
| take some uh, inspiration, from NeXTSTEP.
| mattowen_uk wrote:
| Wow. I don't want to be churlish but you should know your
| internet history. 'WorldWideWeb'[1] was the client application
| co-developed by Tim Berners-Lee and is the original 'Web
| Browser'. When you click on the top right button on the linked
| site, you are shown an interactive copy of WorldWideWeb running
| on a emulated NextStep[2] desktop.
|
| ---
|
| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWideWeb
|
| [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXTSTEP
| avodonosov wrote:
| Thank you. I thought that's just an article about the NeXT
| browser. Now I noticed the button.
| caslon wrote:
| Not...quite. It's not an emulated NeXTSTEP desktop or
| WorldWideWeb itself. It's just a tribute to it. They made a
| blog post on how they made it a few years ago, if I recall
| correctly. It's just some UI chrome on top of some
| Javascript.
| kkoncevicius wrote:
| This image appears when clicking on the last white circle on the
| bottom of the page: https://worldwideweb.cern.ch/images/wow.jpg
|
| I am not familiar with the history of the web, maybe someone can
| comment about who is the person in the image.
| billyjobob wrote:
| That is a photo of Jeremy Keith [https://adactio.com] who was
| part of the team involved in this effort:
| https://worldwideweb.cern.ch/colophon/
|
| [Copied from mxuribe at
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19263365 ]
| SeanLuke wrote:
| All of the window title bars and the menu title bar are utterly
| wrong in design and format. What's going on with that? That's not
| at all how WWW.app looked. Why would this page intentionally
| change them?
| karmakaze wrote:
| Ah good memories--NeXTSTEP looks so clean. I always liked how the
| keyboard shortcuts merely show a lowercase (for Ctrl+letter) or
| uppercase letter (for Ctrl+Shift+letter).
| saagarjha wrote:
| [?] is implied, of course.
| saagarjha wrote:
| As mentioned below, this is a webpage styled to look like the
| WorldWideWeb app, rather than it running in emulation. If you
| decide to try the latter (Previous is a good way to do it) you'll
| find that in recent years servers have stopped responding to
| WorldWideWeb at all, which is kind of sad. TLS is of course a no-
| go, but even on plaintext HTTP many servers these days will
| immediately respond with a 400 and drop the connection if they
| don't like what they see. Just a couple years ago I could point
| WorldWideWeb at my personal website and it would render it mostly
| coherently, but at some point GitHub Pages decided to stop
| serving those requests because they don't have an HTTP version
| number. I guess it's just a casualty in the march towards newer
| web standards as people forget the existence of older browsers.
| userbinator wrote:
| I believe it lacks the Host: header, which means sites with
| virtual hosting (the vast majority of them) instead of a
| specific IP won't work.
| saagarjha wrote:
| It does, but in that case GitHub at least scrapes together a
| proper 404.
| [deleted]
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