[HN Gopher] Every Noise at Once
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       Every Noise at Once
        
       Author : hwayne
       Score  : 317 points
       Date   : 2021-04-02 02:06 UTC (20 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (everynoise.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (everynoise.com)
        
       | siltpotato wrote:
       | People talk about the tyranny of genre, but I guarantee you none
       | of these are granular enough to get the thing that I want if I
       | want to hear more Alberti bass lines or I wanted to hear bright
       | and shrill square wave leads. If only you could categorize by
       | hand-labeled feature. Just list every music theory thing of note,
       | from keys and tempi to tapping and bending to instruments used.
       | Sadly a bit more involved than mTurk workers (is that still
       | around) are usually called to do.
        
       | wunderflix wrote:
       | Acid House is missing :(
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_house
        
         | anigbrowl wrote:
         | No it isn't, search for it - it's just a bit below the trance
         | cluster. This is a surprisingly well realized collection.
        
       | apazzolini wrote:
       | I'm happy every time I come across this site - it's always a fun
       | way to spend some time, and I've found more than a few great
       | artists here.
        
       | samatman wrote:
       | This means I have to pitch Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music.
       | 
       | https://music.ishkur.com
       | 
       | Recently updated, it's a comprehensive history and map of
       | electronic music. It's been around since 2000, played a big role
       | in my life. Highly recommended.
        
         | __tom__ wrote:
         | I've been looking for this for the past few weeks! Thanks for
         | sharing, it played a big role in my life too.
        
         | 8bitsrule wrote:
         | Unlike the GIGO genre-names at EN@O, the IGEM genre names are
         | chosen by people who know their stuff.
        
         | svantana wrote:
         | It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from
         | 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can
         | come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie
         | and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm
         | guessing it's a combination of factors:
         | 
         | 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of
         | music
         | 
         | 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a
         | real genre and not just marketing/hype
         | 
         | 3) Electronic music is "done": most interesting permutations of
         | notes, rhythms and timbres have been tried already
        
           | ddek wrote:
           | > 3) Electronic music is "done": most interesting
           | permutations of notes, rhythms and timbres have been tried
           | already
           | 
           | Have you heard last week's release 'Promises' by Floating
           | Points, Pharoah Sanders, and the LSO? I haven't heard
           | anything like it before (although that might be me), and it
           | completely blew me away.
        
           | input_sh wrote:
           | > I'm trying to think of newer styles
           | 
           | Future bass (Illenium, Mura Masa), bass house (Habstrakt,
           | Jauz, Matroda), g-house isn't new, but it recently became
           | popular (Malaa, Bijou, Dr. Fresch), future house (Oliver
           | Heldens, Martin Solveig, Don Diablo, Zonderling). Also I
           | could swear Chris Lorenzo's and Chris Lake's songs in recent
           | couple of years (especially under the Anti Up pseudonym) are
           | forming their own thing.
        
             | svantana wrote:
             | Nice, those are all glaring omissions from the chart.
             | Although if you trace them back, weren't most of them
             | initiated in the early 2010's?
        
           | MattRix wrote:
           | Anyone who thinks that electronic music is "done" should
           | listen to Iglooghost. Most fresh and unique music I've heard
           | in a long time. It sounds like it was made by aliens (while
           | still beinhg quite catchy and listenable, IMO).
        
             | ebiester wrote:
             | To my ears, Iglooghost sounds like an extension of
             | hyperpop. Listen to "Super Ink Burst" after "Immaterial" by
             | Sophie.
        
               | ali_m wrote:
               | The hyperactive, glossy aesthetic is definitely similar,
               | although I'd place Iglooghost closer to hip-hop/grime
               | (e.g. "White Gum"). Sophie sounds more like a mutated
               | version of chart pop music.
        
           | nkozyra wrote:
           | It's not up to date by any measure. There are new electronic
           | genres popping up yearly, and usually it's the opposite of
           | what you describe. Usually one artist does something new,
           | quickly gets labeled and then the copycats start up. It's
           | almost a branding exercise. Genres come and go as you say,
           | and technically most genres are "hype" as they tend to last
           | only briefly. There's nothing unique or new about that.
           | 
           | I don't understand point 3 and how that relates to electronic
           | music specifically. There's a technically-infinite but
           | practically-shallow set of pop music configurations and, yes,
           | most have been done. What differentiates similar songs is
           | composition, timbre, tempo, instrumentation choice, etc. In
           | that regard electronic music has a wider palette to work
           | with.
        
             | svantana wrote:
             | Of course any style of music can get old and repetitive.
             | But electronic music in particular has been very tied to
             | the technological development of electronic instruments,
             | from the moog modular and forward. A style like jungle/dnb
             | was simply not possible before the advent of samplers and
             | sequencers (well in theory you could do it with tape
             | machines, but). Since about 2005 we can do "just about
             | anything" with DAWs and plugins.
        
               | Slow_Hand wrote:
               | With the development of additive synthesis techniques,
               | technically any form of audio/sound is possible. However,
               | replicating a single acoustic (or "organic") sound - much
               | less an entire composition - through this technique would
               | be strenuous and prohibitively labor intensive.
               | Analogously, it would be like rendering a new banana by
               | arranging some atoms.
               | 
               | Although we can technically "do anything" with the tools
               | before us, there are still great strides to be made in
               | harnessing the power to organize and control them. For
               | this reason, I think we're still far from seeing the full
               | potential of electronic music. We need better tools, and
               | methods for manipulation of electronic instruments. We
               | can barely even replicate and sequence the timbral
               | control of something as seemingly simple as singing.
        
             | gregmac wrote:
             | It's akin to sorting an incoming set of something like
             | Lego, where you never know what's coming next.
             | 
             | Do you need a bin for "red"? Or a bin for "2x4"? Or will
             | there be enough for "2x4 red"? Should this new "red hat"
             | become it's own bin, and if so is it "hats", "red figure
             | decorations" or "misc"?
             | 
             | You don't really know until a bunch of the same things come
             | in (or don't), and guaranteed you'll get a bunch wrong
             | along the way.
        
           | Cthulhu_ wrote:
           | > 3) Electronic music is "done": most interesting
           | permutations of notes, rhythms and timbres have been tried
           | already
           | 
           | hold my beer
        
           | Slow_Hand wrote:
           | That's a big lol at any form of music being "done". How and
           | when would you judge something as broad as a musical style to
           | be "done"?
           | 
           | In your opinion, if most of the "interesting permutations
           | have been tried" what innovations would it take for a new
           | genre/style to develop and broaden the scope of what can be
           | expressed?
        
           | have_faith wrote:
           | > Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of
           | music
           | 
           | Very true. Playlist culture has the potential to organise and
           | label sound aesthetics in ways that genres do not do justice.
           | My playlists are labelled similarly like "Silk" (mostly
           | smooth and deep house with elements of other electronic
           | genres that fit the aesthetic). Silk is obviously not a genre
           | but it's a valid taxonomy to me.
           | 
           | > It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a
           | real genre and not just marketing/hype
           | 
           | I think this has greatly shortened in recent years. I think
           | new genres can be clearly defined on timescales of months or
           | less although it's hard to verify the "legitimacy" of a new
           | genre.
           | 
           | > Electronic music is "done"
           | 
           | There are lots of traditional folk genres and acoustic styles
           | that don't have a clear synergy with electronic genres yet,
           | I'm sure more will surface.
        
           | jerf wrote:
           | My guess is that genres have become kinda diluted, because
           | they've been sliced hyperfine. Wouldn't you rather be "the
           | preeminent producer of Shoe-Slap HyperPunk Shibuya-by-way-of-
           | Baghdad Grunge Disco!" than "A decent enough Techno
           | composer"?
           | 
           | You show me a playlist of "techno" I've never seen before, I
           | have a general idea what I'm in for. You tell me about
           | "future bass", I have no clue.
           | 
           | Some of these genres seem more like they're really about some
           | specific artist rather than a "genre", that is, the "genre"
           | means something more like "I'm inspired by this artist or
           | small number of artists" more than anything that ought to be
           | called a "genre", if genre is to have any meaning.
           | 
           | ... and as evidence... consult your own emotional reaction.
           | Does it feel like I just "attacked" your favorite genre?
           | That's actually my point; "genre" somehow carries cache with
           | it that "being inspired by" doesn't. So of course there's a
           | rush to declare new genres at a breakneck speed.
        
             | mixedCase wrote:
             | I can't see how you'd think niche subgenres are replaceable
             | by "influencing artists", for even very niche subgenres
             | don't tend to gravitate around a single artist as you
             | imply. Niche, and at first glance similar stuff like future
             | bass, future funk and kawaii future bass are still easy to
             | tell apart and have many artists producing original sounds
             | that people still associate to the genre.
             | 
             | I don't understand your point in the end either, but it
             | feels like you're trying to project anger onto other
             | people. Do you feel angry that electronic music genres are
             | not as easy to understand as you hoped and are trying to
             | rationalize this as people coming up with random genres for
             | publicity? Try to think of clear, obvious examples that
             | should validate your rationalization, if it is more than
             | just that then you'll easily be able to come up with a few
             | without reaching for a search engine.
        
               | jerf wrote:
               | I guess if I had to summarize my point, you get more of
               | what you reward. If you reward people for identifying
               | themselves as super-niche genres with acclamation, you're
               | going to get an absurdly-finely-sliced set of genres. It
               | doesn't mean those hyper-fine genres are necessarily all
               | that useful.
               | 
               | If anything, I kinda think it hurts artists to be slicing
               | this finely. You can't really just be ambiently
               | "creative" without having some sort of constraint and
               | structure around you, but jumping into a really small box
               | isn't necessarily a great plan either.
        
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         | skrebbel wrote:
         | Seconded! I particularly recommend reading through some of the
         | genre descriptions (click the (i) icon after selecting a song).
         | They're all beautifully written and many are delightfully
         | opinionated.
        
       | flyflyFenix wrote:
       | I love this site, but it would take 5 lines of CSS to make it
       | more usable. Why would you ever hardcode a 540px margin and
       | padding on divs that have no class or id? Here's one line to help
       | anyone out to remove horizontal scrollbars to completely blank
       | spaces:                   div,html,body{ max-width: 100%
       | !important; }
        
       | mbo wrote:
       | There's a great article about this very project called 'What Is
       | "Escape Room" And Why Is It One Of My Top Genres On Spotify?'[0]
       | 
       | Long story short, the creator had to assign names to some of the
       | clusters the algo spat out, Escape Room being one. Another
       | example might include a cluster called Ninja, aptly named as it's
       | _mostly_ made of artists from the Ninjatune label. Fascinating
       | stuff.
       | 
       | [0] https://festivalpeak.com/what-is-escape-room-and-why-is-
       | it-o...
        
       | superjan wrote:
       | This site and the spotify playlists that it makes, has rekindled
       | my interest in music after being dormant for more than a decade.
       | Never expected that computer generated playlists could be good.
       | Highly recommended.
        
         | gala8y wrote:
         | What new music did you discover and listen to? I listened to a
         | lot of classical music, rock, pop in my youth, then came
         | electronic music and raves. After some relatively music-less
         | years (how come?), few years ago, I came back to electronic
         | music and it blew my mind - psytrance, dark psytrance,
         | goatrance, hi-tech, forest psy to name a few more brain
         | damaging and fun. :)
        
           | gala8y wrote:
           | Also... on the other end of the spectrum, there is Sleepbot
           | Environmental Broadcast [0] with Ambience for the Masses [1]
           | catalogue of ambient music.
           | 
           | And... yes... Mixing of Particulate Solids radio (mops-
           | radio.org - not in operation) will be missed with sorrow. It
           | was a radio from two guys from Bratislava/Slovakia with three
           | streams with only few slots... exceptional. Only recently
           | they stopped streaming completely...
           | 
           | [0] http://www.sleepbot.com/ambience/broadcast/
           | 
           | [1] http://www.sleepbot.com/ambience/
        
         | sorghum wrote:
         | I've been a huge fan of this project for a while and have some
         | tips:
         | 
         | - The Spotify playlists all update automatically (usually
         | weekly) so it's worth following genres you like.
         | 
         | - Don't miss the Pulse and Edge playlists linked at the top of
         | most genre pages! Both are based on the listening activity of
         | fans of the genre, with Pulse focusing on currently popular
         | music and Edge on lesser-known artists.
         | 
         | - Smarter Playlists
         | (http://smarterplaylists.playlistmachinery.com/) is a visual
         | environment for building programmatic playlists using Spotify
         | API calls. I use the Pulse and Edge playlists to make my own
         | "Release Radar"-style playlists focused on specific genres,
         | sorted to show the newest and least popular music first.
         | 
         | I've also been tinkering on a little handheld ESP32 Spotify
         | remote that includes the genre and country playlists from here.
         | It's handy to use with a smart speaker to browse music when you
         | don't know what you want to hear.
         | 
         | Demo video:
         | https://twitter.com/sorghum/status/1317623432012472320
         | 
         | Repo: https://github.com/quadule/knobby
        
         | StavrosK wrote:
         | Where do you see the playlists? I only see one at the top.
        
           | jakubp wrote:
           | Click "list" in the top menu
           | https://everynoise.com/everynoise1d.cgi?scope=all
        
             | StavrosK wrote:
             | Thank you!
        
         | input_sh wrote:
         | You can also do something with no algorithm what so ever: see
         | every new Spotify release tagged in a genre, updated every
         | Friday: https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi
         | 
         | Also you can see what's featured on Spotify's homepage for each
         | country: https://everynoise.com/worldbrowser.cgi?country=NL
        
           | asiachick wrote:
           | As usual Spotify's lists are utter crap
           | 
           | The first 2 songs listed under "Trip Hop" are not remotely
           | trip hop
           | 
           | https://everynoise.com/new_releases_by_genre.cgi?genre=trip%.
           | ..
        
             | 8bitsrule wrote:
             | I listened to music for a couple of less-often heard
             | instruments, and the genre names were completely off-the-
             | mark. Great quantity, little accuracy.
        
       | junon wrote:
       | Instantly new favorite website. Wow.
        
         | sbehlasp wrote:
         | Agree...I dont know what it is ...but something cool
        
       | joe45643234 wrote:
       | Feature request - Loop(repeat). Looping would be great during
       | coding session.
        
       | radicalriddler wrote:
       | Very good music playlists actually! Especially for Australian
       | indie and rock genres!
        
       | kbenson wrote:
       | I love when I encounter these sites and learn a name for some
       | subgenre or quality of music that I enjoy. I've never really
       | cared to really get into discovering and/or researching songs I
       | like, I just accrete them over time as I hear something that
       | speaks to me.
       | 
       | Apparently quite a lot of artists I like fall under "Big Beat".
        
         | jvm_ wrote:
         | /r/listentothis is good for finding different genres, and
         | usually a good song from that category as well.
        
           | ddek wrote:
           | If you're into most alt styles, /r/indieheads is pretty good
           | too.
           | 
           | I quite like going on rym and playing whatever's on the front
           | page, that's exposed me to many genres I'd have skipped
           | otherwise.
        
           | ulrikrasmussen wrote:
           | And /r/ifyoulikeblank for querying the hivemind for
           | suggestions for other stuff that you might like.
        
             | at_a_remove wrote:
             | This has been a great site for exploring various
             | microgenres.
             | 
             | I forget which service offers this -- is it Pandora?
             | Sometimes I have some pretty hyper-specific requests that I
             | have a hard time describing, and most of the "if you liked
             | X you will probably like Y" are entirely too clunky for it.
        
       | frabcus wrote:
       | Is there anywhere with a writeup of how this works - how it was
       | generated and the data feeding it was generated?
       | 
       | I've seen the description at the bottom of the page, but would
       | like more detail!
        
         | input_sh wrote:
         | Author has a blog over on https://www.furia.com/, I'd suggest
         | spending some time there.
        
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       | chrisweekly wrote:
       | >"Every Noise at Once is an ongoing attempt at an
       | algorithmically-generated, readability-adjusted scatter-plot of
       | the musical genre-space, based on data tracked and analyzed for
       | 5,304 genre-shaped distinctions by Spotify as of 2021-03-30."
       | 
       | This is kind of insanely great.
        
       | IndySun wrote:
       | For years now this site has been a secret weapon for discovering
       | music and artists hitherto unknown. Classical is often the most
       | surprising. The scan time is too short, as mentioned, so I add
       | new background tabs when I hear a snippet of interest for further
       | investigation. Doing this is an exercise of the mental &
       | physical, and time well spent. How artists and tracks are tagged
       | is not always consistent, but the sheer number of options usually
       | delivers.
        
       | purplecats wrote:
       | this is extremely cool!
        
       | bronlund wrote:
       | This is the most fantastic thing!
        
       | Larrikin wrote:
       | As much as I love Jersey club I feel its a pretty big insult to
       | include it and not Baltimore club
        
       | kensavage wrote:
       | I don't know what this is but I love it
        
         | maxerickson wrote:
         | It's a genre-map derived from Spotify data.
         | 
         | There's a description at the bottom.
        
       | The_rationalist wrote:
       | See also the state of the art for finding similar artists (works
       | even for niches) https://www.music-map.com
        
       | pgt wrote:
       | Feature request: let me see the song details of the song playing
       | so I can find it on Spotify, e.g. Brazilian Tech House is cool.
       | 
       | Request #2: change the address bar when I click on a genre so I
       | can share the link of a particular style.
        
       | Bost wrote:
       | Eurovision (next to the speedrun) doesn't work. Ooooh... sooo
       | disappointed
        
       | meken wrote:
       | I'm a bit embarrassed to ask, but what does this do?
       | 
       | I assumed by the name it would play a bunch of sounds over each
       | other.
       | 
       | Is it just a catalog of streams of different music genres,
       | arranged in a 2d grid?
       | 
       | If so, that's cool. I just want to make sure I'm not missing some
       | functionality.
        
         | lxgr wrote:
         | > I assumed by the name it would play a bunch of sounds over
         | each other.
         | 
         | Same here. It is impressive for what it is, but I was wondering
         | whether I was missing the functionality to overlay or somehow
         | sync up different genres simultaneously while exploring it.
        
         | TeMPOraL wrote:
         | There's a blurb of text at the very bottom that explains what
         | it is (I just found it, it wasn't obvious to me either):
         | 
         | > _Every Noise at Once is an ongoing attempt at an
         | algorithmically-generated, readability-adjusted scatter-plot of
         | the musical genre-space, based on data tracked and analyzed for
         | 5,304 genre-shaped distinctions by Spotify as of 2021-03-30.
         | The calibration is fuzzy, but in general down is more organic,
         | up is more mechanical and electric; left is denser and more
         | atmospheric, right is spikier and bouncier._
         | 
         | > _Click anything to hear an example of what it sounds like._
         | 
         | > _Click the >> on a genre to see a map of its artists._
         | 
         | > _Be calmly aware that this may periodically expand, contract
         | or combust._
         | 
         | EDIT: Artist map is even more interesting, see e.g.:
         | https://everynoise.com/engenremap-russianchoir.html - it has a
         | scatterplot of artists, genre's neighbourhood, and... I'm not
         | sure what that dark one is. I'm guessing the neighbourhood
         | opposite in the "genre space"?
        
       | The_rationalist wrote:
       | I strongly want to know what someone that would have experienced
       | almost exhaustively all of the music universe, would qualify as
       | the best songs (the criterion being potency on qualias). The
       | closest I could find are the lists of Scaruffi which is a man
       | that has for his life full time job since decades the goal of
       | refining its list. https://www.scaruffi.com/ratings/10.html While
       | there are some gems I feel like the results would be very
       | different had they been generated contemporaneously by someone
       | with a younger brain, for example I am in much bigger
       | intersection with lukeprog or David Dean Burkhart.
       | 
       | There are websites like rateyourmusic.com but I still can't find
       | a platform of recommendations made by passionated experts.
        
       | jvm_ wrote:
       | I like scan, but the time is too short, and it skips before I can
       | get it to play. Maybe a longer scan period - or just a 'random'
       | button.
        
       | teraflop wrote:
       | This is awesome.
       | 
       | I can't help but feel that "bemani" is badly misclassified
       | compared to its immediate neighbors, though.
        
         | lifthrasiir wrote:
         | > I can't help but feel that "bemani" is badly misclassified
         | compared to its immediate neighbors, though.
         | 
         | It is not even a genre [1]. How it ended up there is a mystery
         | to me.
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bemani
        
         | the_only_law wrote:
         | I was disappointed at most of the sludge genres not sounding
         | much like sludge (dark sludge sounding closest to something I
         | might hear in the genre but still not quite). Actually my
         | username here is a sludge song :), albeit from an album with
         | other influences.
         | 
         | If this data is form Spotify which seems to be the case, I've
         | noticed genre classification isn't always perfect though.
        
       | scotty79 wrote:
       | Instrumental black metal is surprisingly cheerful.
        
       | _nalply wrote:
       | I am deaf. How to proceed from a soundbite to songs or even an
       | album? No Spotify and other subscriptions available. It's for my
       | 8 year old son who likes to listen to music.
        
         | skeaker wrote:
         | Mousing over a button that plays a soundbite will give hover
         | text that states the artist and song name.
        
       | agallant wrote:
       | This is a fun tool, but it's also pretty revealing of the
       | arbitrariness with which "genre" is labeled. Though I get that
       | there is frequent innovation in electronic music, I would argue
       | the same is true of all music, yet electronic music is the most
       | likely to see that innovation as a "new genre."
       | 
       | Searching this page for "jazz" I find results that don't really
       | capture the space, and instead go deep into interesting but
       | likely unrepresentative niches ("icelandic jazz") that
       | musicologists probably wouldn't consider genres/subgenres.
       | There's also things that clearly aren't genres but are just
       | keywords people like using ("jazz organ", "jazz clarinet").
       | 
       | Overall, again this is a fun music discovery tool, but if you
       | want to learn about music genres I'd suggest reading about music
       | history. This doesn't just mean old/classical music (though it is
       | influential), there's lots of fascinating books about modern
       | music as well.
        
       | mttpgn wrote:
       | Previous discussion at
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20585447
        
       | purplecats wrote:
       | @hwayne I've already discovered some really cool genres I like
       | from this.
       | 
       | since its algorithmic and the data is structured in a somewhat
       | ordinal manner, does this man you could perform a @D binary
       | search with a rating for every "visit" and be able to pinpoint
       | areas of generes that you like?
       | 
       | I'd like to build this if it would help me discover more things
       | in a systematic way.
        
       | Nition wrote:
       | Does anyone know how Spotify assigns the genre tags to artists?
       | Looking up myself on this site shows me as under two main tags:
       | "Folk Rock Italiano" and "SLC Indie" (which is apparently Salt
       | Lake City).
       | 
       | Although folk rock and indie are accurate, I'm neither Italian
       | nor American.
        
         | svantana wrote:
         | For various reasons they are secretive about this, but the
         | genre system is inherited from EchoNest which they acquired in
         | 2014. EchoNest's main idea was to combine audio analysis with
         | natural language processing and web scraping to categorize
         | music. In fact the two founders were PhD's in each respective
         | field.
         | 
         | But nowadays I'm guessing they are utilizing their huge dataset
         | of playlists to group artists under tags. Obviously such
         | systems will work better the more popular an artist is.
        
           | Cthulhu_ wrote:
           | I wonder / kinda hope that they have a bunch of music experts
           | working for them that manually categorize and tag music, at
           | least to kickstart their algorithms.
        
           | spoctrial wrote:
           | They are not that secretive, it's been written about several
           | times. Long story short: a lot of it is still Glenn McDonald,
           | the person behind everynoise, that was acquihired when they
           | bought echonest.
           | 
           | Here are a few articles about it (there are several more):
           | https://artists.spotify.com/blog/how-spotify-discovers-
           | the-g... https://www.thefader.com/2020/12/02/escape-room-
           | genre-spotif...
           | https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2016/01/14/meet-the-
           | ma...
        
             | svantana wrote:
             | Well, ideally your spotify artist page should contain the
             | genres you're tagged with, along with some info of how that
             | came to be, and even a way to request a change to those.
             | But they don't want people to game the system, and also not
             | let competitors know how they do things (I'm guessing).
        
       | lifeformed wrote:
       | I misread the url and thought this was gonna be an April Fool's
       | joke from mynoise.net where it has a new noise generator that
       | plays every sound at once.
        
         | michaelcampbell wrote:
         | God I love that site. It's almost got TOO much; every time I go
         | there are a dozen "new" ones to try.
        
       | khimaros wrote:
       | IIRC, these folks were acqui-hired by Spotify and are now working
       | on their recommender system.
        
         | maxerickson wrote:
         | There's quite a few entries about it at https://furia.com/
        
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       | frereubu wrote:
       | This is fantastic fun. But a few things that could make it better
       | in my opinion:
       | 
       | 1. I think the short description of what this is, but more
       | importantly how to use it, should be at the top. Sometimes
       | discovering how something works is fun, but I found it annoying
       | in this case - discovering the music is the fun bit.
       | 
       | 2. I hate that it scrolls what I've clicked to the vertical
       | centre of the screen. It means I can't click around an area
       | without it constantly changing the scroll position and me having
       | to readjust because what I was going to click on next has moved.
       | 
       | 3. I think this could be annoying if on by default, but I'd like
       | the back button to take me back to what I'd played before.
       | Perhaps this could be behind an option, off by default, otherwise
       | people might unexpectedly get caught in one of those long back-
       | back-back browser history states.
       | 
       | 4. When a sample is playing, clicking on white space should stop
       | what's playing, as should pressing the escape key.
       | 
       | Also, something not in the instructions is that if you're playing
       | a sample you can hover over the >> icon to see what's actually
       | playing.
        
       | robbiemitchell wrote:
       | This site was such an eye opener for me when I found it a couple
       | years ago. I had always wondered about this weird genre of
       | electronic music I liked to listen to when working and create in
       | my spare time, and it turns out to be called "Wave".
        
         | monkpit wrote:
         | Glad to see someone mentioning Wave! I have had a Wave playlist
         | created for a while now without knowing it was even a genre.
         | Then, I googled one of the songs and found out that Ofdream
         | died, and discovered the references to the genre name during
         | that research. Feels bad.
        
           | pastech wrote:
           | I used to watch livestreams of Ofdream making his music. Me
           | and my friends felt close to him at the time because there
           | wasn't a lot of viewers and we could easily talk. Feels bad
           | indeed.
        
       | schmorptron wrote:
       | This is incredibly cool, what an amazing project
        
       | soheilpro wrote:
       | This is interesting. I'm exploring ways to add music
       | discoverability to https://volt.fm and this could help.
        
       | m3kw9 wrote:
       | This is awesome for discovering music. Just started listening to
       | "Japanese Math Rock" lol
        
         | m3kw9 wrote:
         | It's actually fast semi-rock instrumentals, I like it
        
       | unanswered wrote:
       | Because I consider myself not to have enough time to truly
       | explore music, I'm disappointed that Spotify (same data as this)
       | does not make it easier to discover music that's _similar_ to my
       | music, but _different_. No matter how I use its  "radio" feature
       | it's very rare that I find a truly unique branch to explore that
       | doesn't just lead back to the same artists, or at least to the
       | same sub-genre.
       | 
       | Unfortunately I don't see the common theme in music I like
       | represented in the two dimensions chosen for this representation,
       | so it doesn't help terribly much. Given I like (per this data)
       | "Celtic" and "neo-mellow", it turns out "japanese guitar" and
       | "pop rock" aren't actually the correct next steps for me...
        
         | JKCalhoun wrote:
         | Start with an obscure artist: various sites will then recommend
         | "Radiohead". Yeah, I think I heard of them.
         | 
         | How about recommending _other_ obscure stuff rather than
         | funneling everything into mainstream?
         | 
         | I feel like they find other users that like the same artist,
         | then look for other artists these users also like ... it
         | ferrets out the lowest common denominator.
        
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