[HN Gopher] PSA: Keep Time Machine disks out of your Finder sidebar
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PSA: Keep Time Machine disks out of your Finder sidebar
Author : cjv
Score : 55 points
Date : 2021-03-27 16:33 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| meibo wrote:
| Is this the "Apple Quality Experience" I keep hearing about?
|
| Seems like an intern's first task that wasn't double checked(in
| arguably one of the most important parts of the OS).
| hpoe wrote:
| Ya so I've been anti-Mac for a while but had to use it for work
| but now I have really developed a hatred of Mac. I had to do the
| Big Sir 11.2.3 upgrade and it took 4 flipping hours, which okay
| fine whatever that happens. The issue however is that it was
| stuck on 15 minutes for 3 hours. I only was patient because a
| coworker said that he heard the update took 4 hours.
|
| I was always told that Mac "just works" but at least with Linux I
| can see what the heck is going on and what needs to happen to fix
| it, here I am just at the whims of whatever Apple pushes out.
|
| Additionally my internet now randomly breaks on the Mac and
| requires a restart and I've been noticing significant slow downs.
| At the point the only reason I can imagine people would defend
| Macs is Stockholm Syndrome.
| rvz wrote:
| > I was always told that Mac "just works" but at least with
| Linux I can see what the heck is going on and what needs to
| happen to fix it, here I am just at the whims of whatever Apple
| pushes out.
|
| True, but even if the fix is known, I have zero time to read
| the dsmeg log to send a bug report, try temporary workarounds
| that may break later, installing beta versions or editing
| .config files in separate apps and then diving into system
| files to replace the component my self.
|
| > At the point the only reason I can imagine people would
| defend Macs is Stockholm Syndrome.
|
| I use my Macbook (Intel) to just _' get things done'_ and not
| to end up diving into a sea of hidden config files or replacing
| system components. Big Sur is stable enough for me on Intel.
|
| I guess the ones that you mention that have this 'Stockholm
| Syndrome' with the Mac are those who are hyping and got the M1
| Macs which have very interesting limitations which they won't
| tell you. I'd rather wait until the software ecosystem is
| mature and the second or third generations of these ARM Macs
| have been released before updating.
| least wrote:
| Or because their experiences don't match yours? I've used a lot
| of operating systems extensively and they all have unique pain
| points that make me want to rip my hair out. If you go in with
| a negative prejudice and then find anything wrong you're just
| confirming your bias without acknowledging any of the positive
| traits. Of course you hate it. You don't even want to like it.
| throw0101a wrote:
| Great.
|
| And how do I make this change? What setting do I have to check or
| un-check? Or is it a _defaults(1)_ thing?
|
| Proviso: I would like to keep my "Hard disks" and "External
| disks" visible.
| saagarjha wrote:
| You'll have to drag the external disk for your Time Machine
| backup out of the sidebar. Collapsing the section does not
| work, unfortunately.
| [deleted]
| snuxoll wrote:
| You'd think Apple, having developed the thing, would have used
| Core Animation for this.
| pmiller2 wrote:
| Yeah, that does seem like a rookie mistake.
|
| Does the extra CPU use typically cause any visible issues to
| the user, though? User impact is what's most important here. I
| don't particularly care if my CPU works a little harder than it
| needs to for a few seconds, as long as I can still do what I
| want on the machine without issue.
| saagarjha wrote:
| The animation spins for as long as the backup runs, which for
| me was about ten minutes an hour.
| pmiller2 wrote:
| I see. Does it disrupt your use of the computer in any way?
| In other words, if you weren't looking at a CPU monitor,
| would you notice?
| oarsinsync wrote:
| Using half a core for 10 mins per hour will likely have a
| material effect on battery life. Unless someone
| instruments exactly how much, it's hard to say, but this
| doesn't seem like a hand-wave.
| bartvk wrote:
| Sounds quite long, actually. I've recently found that
| external SSDs have become affordable enough for me to use
| them for backups.
|
| Good on you for digging in and finding the issue, by the
| way.
| wtallis wrote:
| Especially since Apple re-wrote the Finder for the OS X release
| right after the one that introduced Core Animation. Maybe they
| were trying to be a bit conservative with the Cocoa Finder
| rewrite and were focused on simply ditching the Carbon APIs
| while preserving as much of the application's behavior and
| internal structure as possible, rather than more thoroughly
| modernizing the app. But the fact that it still hasn't been
| modernized in this way for more than a decade sounds like
| Apple's macOS developers a Microsoft-style fear of touching
| core components of the OS.
| bombcar wrote:
| Maybe there's a dependency that prevents them from using core
| animation there.
|
| In which case not animating may be the correct response.
| jrmg wrote:
| There's nothing in that thread that supports the assertion that
| this is taking 'half a core'.
|
| The Finder sample shows it taking less than 10% of the wall-clock
| time of one (mostly idle) thread, and it doesn't seem likely that
| WindowServer is spending another 40%+ of a core in response.
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