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       Show HN: Stackby - Spreadsheets, Databases and No-code APIs in a
       single platform
        
       Author : rachitkhtor
       Score  : 64 points
       Date   : 2021-03-27 11:23 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (stackby.com)
        
       | VinLucero wrote:
       | Does this scale beyond the 100k row limit of Airtable?
        
       | dvfjsdhgfv wrote:
       | For a tool that manipulates my data, especially data that is
       | important for me and my company, I really want a self-hostable
       | version that I can deploy wherever I want. Wrapping your data,
       | processes and workflows around a product that can easily
       | disappear next month is not an option for me. If I ever need this
       | kind of functionality, I will use Baserow instead.
        
       | moralestapia wrote:
       | Hi Rachit! Great product, I have a question, do you offer (or
       | plan to offer) an API for developers? That kind of makes it or
       | breaks it for me.
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | A beta API is apparently available:
         | https://documenter.getpostman.com/view/7317658/SzmZbfQP?vers...
        
       | benatkin wrote:
       | I read the bar on the top as as:
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       | > Latecomers get charged 400% extra on all plans!
       | 
       | With Comcast and all the other gimmicks out there I've come to
       | prefer consistent pricing. Other than that all I sometimes want
       | is a free trial, which I will more often than not cancel.
        
       | showerst wrote:
       | I tried to go to your pricing page on mobile and got 3 pop ups
       | that I had to dismiss before I could see the content: two
       | separate chats, one that made noise, and some email callout /beg.
       | 
       | This really turns me off of your product.
        
       | yawnxyz wrote:
       | you should really get rid of all the popups when you first get to
       | the site... that is SO off-putting. Especially the "woop woop"
       | sound
        
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       | bloudermilk wrote:
       | I'm a big fan of Airtable and always happy to see more tools like
       | it come to market. Curious though, why you've gone to such great
       | lengths to copy their UI? There is plenty of room to leapfrog
       | them (especially on the API side) but I think you're hurting
       | yourself by following so closely in their footsteps. If I were
       | going against a rapidly growing incumbent like that I'd be
       | looking at ways of differentiating from the start. Good luck to
       | you and your team!
        
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       | CharlesW wrote:
       | I was curious how Stackby stacked up against Airtable and found
       | this comparison chart provided by Stackby:
       | https://stackby.com/airtable-alternative
       | 
       | Caution: The very first "missing" feature I checked, built-in
       | automation, is wrong on Stackby's chart:
       | https://support.airtable.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050974153-...
        
       | tyingq wrote:
       | Curious how you handle "external users" for pricing. Say I wanted
       | to build an app for job applicant tracking, for example. The vast
       | amount of functionality would be for the internal team. But, you
       | would want external people to be able to apply, check status,
       | note that they found a different job and want to opt out, etc.
       | Per user pricing doesn't work well for that.
        
       | fblp wrote:
       | Hey glad to see some more established airtable competition,
       | however one thing you've copied from airtable which you should
       | differentiate on is pricing of storing data. Like airtable, your
       | most expensive self-service (non-enteprise) plan has a cap of 1
       | year of historic data storage. This is pathetic when compared to
       | basically every other collaboration tool ranging from Google
       | sheets to Trello.
       | 
       | Sure, charge users for gb of storage, or data transfer - but
       | arbitrarily deleting (or hiding) data that is more than 52 weeks
       | old from customers who are paying you $18/user/month feels very
       | hostile.
        
         | moralestapia wrote:
         | But that applies to history, right? Like undos, revisions,
         | etc...
         | 
         | Or is that "any data that is older than a year"?
        
           | lejohnq wrote:
           | For airtable, at least, yes this is just revision history.
           | Not any data that is older than a year
        
           | dangoor wrote:
           | The pricing page seems reasonably clear that this is just
           | revision history and not the current data.
        
         | rapnie wrote:
         | > Hey glad to see some more established airtable competition
         | 
         | Also see Baserow that featured 2 weeks ago, it is fully open
         | source and self-hostable:
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         | https://baserow.io
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         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26448985
        
           | yawnxyz wrote:
           | another one is 8base.com, which seems very similar.
           | 
           | Airtable needs to get their stuff together and expand their
           | pretty terrible API
        
         | stevesearer wrote:
         | Arbitrary limits are very frustrating. Another service we use
         | advertises pricing at $5/user/mo to upgrade to a plan with full
         | history.
         | 
         | You can have different teams including different sets of users
         | (sales, dev, support etc).
         | 
         | After we upgraded we learned that the stated pricing of
         | $5/user/mo was actually $5/user/mo/team so if you were on two
         | or three teams the price really jumps quickly.
         | 
         | Luckily they didn't automatically upgrade all of our users for
         | all teams. The main frustration is that there is no way to read
         | the pricing page to know this before you sign up.
        
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