[HN Gopher] Lice
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       Lice
        
       Author : library
       Score  : 41 points
       Date   : 2021-03-26 22:11 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | mih wrote:
       | On the downside, extermination of such parasites which humans
       | have hosted for generations, may have led to prevalence of
       | allergies [1].
       | 
       | [1] https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16997-freedom-from-
       | li...
        
       | maxk42 wrote:
       | Can anyone explain why lice are not yet exterminated in first-
       | world countries at least?
        
         | chris1993 wrote:
         | They're pretty common in Australia and have evolved resistance
         | to many chemical treatments, to the extent that the recommended
         | treatment is combing with conditioner, but you only need one or
         | two eggs to be missed to restart the cycle. Plus kids often
         | don't notice they have lice until they have a lot of lice, so
         | the touching heads together which happens a lot with smaller
         | kids spreads lice fast across a group. Basically they are
         | really hard to completely eradicate.
        
         | DoreenMichele wrote:
         | Stigma. Misinformation. Disinformation. Classism. Etc.
         | 
         | It ends up being the poorest of the poor who keep alive vermin
         | and other health issues. If they admit to having such issues,
         | we punish them rather than help them resolve it.
         | 
         | Education is a known means to combat poverty, probably because
         | it makes feasible to find what I think of as "middle class
         | solutions" to myriad issues, including health and hygiene
         | issues. Poor people often have a lack of knowledge and that
         | lack of knowledge fosters problems and there are systemic
         | barriers to educating them because we punish them rather than
         | help them if they admit to having certain kinds of problems.
         | 
         | So they hide them and they don't get educated and so forth.
         | 
         | You sometimes see ugly jokes about "The third world country of
         | America" because there are parts of the US where poverty is
         | rampant, infrastructure is falling apart, etc. I imagine most
         | first world countries have some areas of intractable poverty
         | (though perhaps not all -- some stories suggest some countries
         | are successfully resolving issues like homelessness).
        
         | riffraff wrote:
         | You only need one person to reinfect everyone else, there is no
         | immunity, and you can't reliably rid the whole population of
         | lice. Even if you did, a single tourist could reintroduce it.
         | 
         | But it certainly is not as big a problem as it once was, when I
         | was a kid 30+ years ago you still got TV ads about anti-lice
         | shampoo, as it was still a common enough problem. This is
         | definitely not the case anymore.
        
           | dmitriid wrote:
           | > This is definitely not the case anymore.
           | 
           | Except, surprisingly, Sweden where I live now. Lice outbreaks
           | at schools are a very common thing. This surprised me, as
           | this wasn't a thing even in my own ass-backwards country of
           | Moldova.
        
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             | mrwh wrote:
             | I recall lice breakouts at my UK school. (Though now I have
             | to remind myself that I'm galloping towards middle age and
             | that was at least thirty years ago.)
        
               | klondike_klive wrote:
               | The "nit nurse" coming to the school was a big deal. I
               | only remember it happening once or twice (it was probably
               | every year on some predetermined date) but each time a
               | whispered thrill went through the whole school. It was
               | like a celestial visitation.
        
             | Xylakant wrote:
             | It's a common thing in German schools and kindergarten,
             | we've been through that twice at least. I'd be surprised if
             | that was different in Moldova, I'd rather expect that there
             | was more stigma attached and less people talked about it or
             | similar effects.
        
         | kyberias wrote:
         | You have to remember that lice outbreaks have nothing to do
         | with hygiene or high standards of living per se. Merely close
         | proximity of people.
        
       | webmobdev wrote:
       | This is culturally fascinating to me as schools in India do not
       | consider a lice infestation in any student as a major hygiene
       | issue and raise a hue and cry about it (like I presume some
       | western schools do?). They treat it as a personal issue,
       | something that is annoying. Some teacher may inform the parent if
       | they suspect a student has lice, or even offer tips to the
       | affected student on how to deal with it, but they never made a
       | big deal about it or publicised it. It was accepted as one of the
       | things everyone goes through once in a while. That said, there
       | certainly is a light social stigma associated with having lice,
       | and we too have experienced what the author went through while
       | our parents tried to delouse us. I recall someone telling me that
       | even the dangerous DDT was popular 3-4 decades back in my country
       | for such purpose!
        
         | watwut wrote:
         | The parents are informed if there are lice in school. So then
         | you check your kids hair more often and by special shampoo for
         | it. The information about lice is accompaigned by ask to do
         | exactly that - check kids hair and if they are found work to
         | get rid of it.
         | 
         | The result is that not everyone goes through live, only few
         | unlucky kids do. Basically, it prevents spread. The lice
         | themselves keep existing, cause spread is not zero.
        
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