[HN Gopher] Using 8-inch diskette drives with a PC
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       Using 8-inch diskette drives with a PC
        
       Author : Cocktail
       Score  : 14 points
       Date   : 2021-03-26 10:38 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | anonymousiam wrote:
       | I had four 8" drives. Two (DSDD) were connected to my IMSAI
       | (modified with CompuPro S-100 boards). The other two (SSDD) were
       | connected to my Ferguson Big Board. I never tried using the 8"
       | drives on systems that would normally interface to 5-1/4" drives,
       | but I always assumed it would be a simple matter of adapting the
       | 50-pin edge connector used for the 8" drives to the 34-pin edge
       | connecter used for the 5-1/4" drives.
       | 
       | At one time I had a calibration disk and an "exerciser board" for
       | 8" drives that could be used (along with an oscilloscope) to
       | adjust the track positions and gain settings on the drive.
       | 
       | I gave away all of those old goodies after I purchased at 25MHz
       | 386 PC clone that could emulate CP/M faster than the native Z-80
       | hardware.
       | 
       | It was fun tinkering with computer hardware in that era, but it
       | was also frustrating because of the limitations of the
       | technology. It's hard to believe that processors of today run
       | three orders of magnitude faster, and have six+ orders of
       | magnitude more RAM, with six orders of magnitude more disk
       | storage with about five orders of magnitude faster disk I/O.
       | 
       | I don't miss the old days so much.
        
       | zabzonk wrote:
       | I seriously got into computing in 1979, working for the
       | Microbiology Department at Queen Elizabeth College, University of
       | London, using Research Machines 380Zs, equipped with both 8 and
       | 5.25 inch floppy drives. Here are a few of my observations on the
       | beasts:
       | 
       | - They required quite a lot of strength to open and particularly
       | to close - some of our students were scared they were going to
       | break them (and the cost a lot back then) because of the force
       | needed.
       | 
       | - One student did the classic "remove disk from envelope" thing
       | where they took the actual mylar disc out of the floppy
       | container. He may have been taking the piss, but if so he lost
       | out, as we made students pay for the disks.
       | 
       | - Somewhat unrelated - when I was working in the Netherlands in
       | the 90s, I noticed that supermarkets in Utrecht, a big university
       | town, had floppy disk dispensers in supermarkets - students put
       | in a guilder or whatever, and got a 3.5 inch floppy they could
       | submit their coursework on.
       | 
       | - They were incredibly noisy - the servos were banging away like
       | mad, particularly if you were doing anything database-like, which
       | I mostly was.
       | 
       | - They were horribly unreliable - we used to have to keep sending
       | ours back to RML in Oxford to get them recalibrated or replaced
       | every few months.
       | 
       | Still, all in all they were a million times better than my own
       | personal computer at the time - a Dragon32 with a cassette deck
       | for storage!
        
       | paulsutter wrote:
       | Embarrassed to be old enough to remember: 8" floppies were
       | actually called disks, and the smaller 5.25" floppy drives were
       | called diskettes because they were so compact
        
         | louwrentius wrote:
         | In Dutch, we always talked about 'diskettes', when talking
         | about the rigid 3.5" disks. The large 5.25" were called
         | floppies. Diskettes were called floppies too sometimes, but
         | never the other way around.
         | 
         | I'm from the time frame in which I never saw 8 inch floppies.
         | 
         | The 5.25" were on the way out, many PCs had both 1.44 and 1.2
         | MB drives for a while.
         | 
         | /rambling
        
           | unixhero wrote:
           | It was/is the same rule in English also. Cheers.
        
         | zabzonk wrote:
         | I'm also old enough, and we called both 8 and 5.25 disks,
         | disks. Diskettes came around later, and that nomenclature was
         | far from universal.
        
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