[HN Gopher] Show HN: Trove - Curate and publish a knowledge base...
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Show HN: Trove - Curate and publish a knowledge base on any topic
Author : wdencker
Score : 51 points
Date : 2021-03-25 17:00 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| dvt wrote:
| This is a very cool idea, and I was actually working on something
| similar a few years ago (a "GitHub" for design documents, mainly
| aimed at Product Managers). My enthusiasm fizzled because of
| extreme competition in that sector, but I really like what you
| guys built.
| wdencker wrote:
| Thanks for your comment! Very cool. As an ex-PM the use case
| makes a lot of sense to me--Figma makes things a lot easier but
| still so much of the Design-Product back and forth happens over
| email, DM, and Google Docs. I do wonder if there is still
| something missing.
| julianfkelly wrote:
| I enjoyed putting thought into curating Troves that weren't just
| visual references. Would love to see more expression tools for
| collections beyond just adding annotation.
| wdencker wrote:
| Great to hear! I would love to hear what you think these new
| expression tools might be. Just spitballing here, perhaps you
| could record audio on a block instead of writing? Or are you
| thinking even more outside the box than that?
| wdencker wrote:
| Creator here, happy to answer any questions.
|
| Trove is a project I've been working on for about 3 months now.
| The initial idea was borne out of a frustration my cofounder and
| I had while researching startup ideas. We would often come across
| excellent resources that related to one of the ideas we were
| investigating, but we found there was no great way to organize
| these resources, annotate them with our own thoughts, and share
| our annotations with one another. Text messages were unwieldy for
| long-form thoughts, Google Docs & Notion didn't provide enough
| structure, and emails quickly became buried. In a world of
| abundant information, simply being able to sift through and
| organize it all is now the biggest challenge.
|
| What we believe is missing is a "GitHub for knowledge" -- a place
| where we can not only store our own knowledge, but also build
| from others' ideas [1]. Trove has a long way to go as a product
| (right now, it's a relatively simple React/Next.js app with a
| Django REST backend) -- we would love to hear any feedback or
| ideas you might have!
|
| [1] https://trove.to/trove/trove/why-we-built-this
| swyx wrote:
| i'm someone who keeps a ton of github knowledge bases:
|
| - https://github.com/sw-yx/spark-joy/
|
| - https://github.com/sw-yx/launch-cheatsheet/
|
| - https://react-typescript-cheatsheet.netlify.app/
|
| i should be your ideal user.
|
| i was very excited at the idea, but tried out the product and
| its clearly not there yet. but keep going.
|
| specifics:
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| - i was looking for search scoped to my trove
|
| - collaborative editing, if it exists, is not obvious
|
| this is what i was looking for and i stopped once i didnt see
| them exist.
|
| good luck!
| wdencker wrote:
| Thanks for trying it out, and for this candid feedback!
| You're right, the product is still a ways off from becoming a
| true "GitHub for knowledge" -- things like "forking" a trove,
| live collaborative editing, and more powerful search are some
| of the missing elements.
|
| We'll keep working!
| janjones wrote:
| I recently created a web application for curating one big
| shared public knowledge base.[1] Its contribution system is
| conceptually based on GitHub's pull requests and
| StackOverflow reputation.
|
| It's focused on _tips for learning resources_ , so it seems
| ideal for your cheat sheets. Currently, creating lists of
| SDKs, tools, etc. is not very well supported, but we are
| working on it. And I already use it for these things, see for
| example my list of Flutter libraries.[2]
|
| I guess it's also kind-of similar to Trove, but it is more
| focused on creating one curated catalog of knowledge rather
| than personal recommendation lists (although that is also
| possible now via personal study profiles, e.g., [3]).
|
| [1] https://knowledgepicker.com
|
| [2] https://knowledgepicker.com/t/177/flutter
|
| [3] https://knowledgepicker.com/u/jjones
| bckr wrote:
| That launch cheatsheet link is going in my "Entrepreneurship
| Journal" Google Doc ;D
| Ontol wrote:
| In march 2020 I started http://ontol.org/ - my version of
| "Github for wisdom". Wisdom - is from DIKW pyramid "Data-
| Information-Knowledge-Wisdom"
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIKW_pyramid)
|
| Glad to see what I am not alone! World need uoer hearts, hands
| and minds!
|
| Now Ontol in close beta stage and I testing hypothesis in tiny
| russian auditory. But after this discussion, I will speed up by
| 300% ))) Thanks!
| dzdt wrote:
| It looks like it lets you organize and comment on URL's? Is it
| of any use if you have content that isn't already on the web
| and isn't neatly tagged by URL? E.g. your own photos.
| wdencker wrote:
| Not yet, though this is a direction we've been thinking
| about. We know a fully-fledged "knowledge base" may not only
| consist of annotated URLs -- it may also contain the author's
| own thoughts / content (whether that be text, audio, images,
| or video).
|
| Ultimately, we think there's a need for a multimedia
| publishing platform that's more lightweight than something
| like Substack or Medium--everyone has great knowledge to
| share, but few want to start their own newsletter.
| basch wrote:
| Are you familiar with https://kit.co/ (a service Patreon
| acquired and later dealt)?
|
| There's also https://satchel.com/ in the B2B SaSS space.
|
| Does anyone think there is a market for a
| wikipedia/wirecutter/consumerreports-like building tool, for
| communities to build recommendations by consensus?
| wdencker wrote:
| I am familiar with both -- as far as I can tell they're both
| great products in their own right, very focused on their
| particular niche (Kit for products, Satchel for B2B SaaS).
|
| You can use Trove to create similar things; for instance I
| have a trove on my recommended WFH setup [1].
|
| Long term, we believe a general-purpose tool may have the
| most potential. The ability to search for any recommendation,
| and get back a result that's been vetted (i.e. "starred") by
| my network would be game changing, IMO. Obviously, we've got
| a long way to go before we can reach that level of utility.
|
| [1] https://trove.to/wes/trove/the-ultimate-wfh-setup
| basch wrote:
| I would be interested in what is sort of the inverse of
| Medium's latest action. I very much disagree with Ev
| William's statement of "the idea of an imprimatur that
| establishes credibility or trust. Trust is more important
| than ever and well-established editorial brands still have
| meaning. But today, credibility and affinity are primarily
| built by people -- individual voices -- rather than
| brands."
|
| What would make your product most valuable to me as both a
| consumer and a contributor would be a way to establish an
| aggregate reviews in a specific way, such as by editorial
| board or brand. A group of reviewers working together. Sort
| of like a subreddit. Not only being able to sort reviews by
| author or people I follow, but compare the rankings of the
| consumer reports team to the wirecutter team (examples of
| competing review brands.) I want to look at a masthead and
| trust their overall review quality standards, to find the
| reviewers I can trust.
|
| A CMS to host reviews is cool. A way to collaborate and
| build complex team consensus is even better.
| ramoz wrote:
| A lot of internal knowledge I work with can't be moved to SaaS.
|
| Does anyone know of any open source solutions for similar KB user
| experience (quality as the first order primitive). COTs are
| fine... but me and everyone else are already on Sharepoint and
| that's not going away -- so any solution needs to integrate; at
| least on the surface... understandably there are
| indexes/embeddings that need to exist for KB retrieval.
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| zanderchase wrote:
| Awesome product! I really connect with the social & knowledge
| sharing aspect of the platform that enables a more meaningful way
| of navigating the web. Are there any plans for expansion into
| user generated content to expand on the knowledge hub vision?
| wdencker wrote:
| Thanks for trying it out!
|
| In some sense, we believe we are already a platform oriented
| around user-generated content--the act of curating and
| annotating something is itself a medium of expression. But yes,
| ultimately we would like to allow users to create blocks that
| are not just URLs (e.g. free-form text, images, audio, and
| video).
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| For now, our focus is on nailing the use case of sharing and
| curating great resources, since we believe they are the
| critical component of any great knowledge base.
| rglover wrote:
| This is great. A feature request: screenshots. I've been on the
| hunt for a way to collect UI snippets and ideas and this is near
| perfect.
|
| Dig the UI, name, and logo, too. Nice work :)
| wdencker wrote:
| Thanks for trying it out! The ability to upload your own
| screenshots / images is on our roadmap. For now, you can still
| include images hosted elsewhere on the web through standard
| Markdown syntax.
|
| For example, one trove that does this:
| https://trove.to/wes/trove/interesting-wikipedia-articles
| betatester123 wrote:
| Really cool idea-- have you considered adding a chrome extension?
| It'd be nice to save resources as I browse the web.
| wdencker wrote:
| Thanks for your comment! In fact, we're working on a Chrome
| extension now. Beyond just allowing users to save things as
| they browse, we think there's some other interesting
| applications--for instance, if I came across a page that
| someone I follow had in their troves, I could then see their
| notes / annotations directly in the browser.
|
| Open to suggestions if you have more thoughts on this!
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