[HN Gopher] Serenity notes: E2E encrypted notes
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Serenity notes: E2E encrypted notes
Author : domoritz
Score : 31 points
Date : 2021-03-24 14:15 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.serenity.re)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.serenity.re)
| mosselman wrote:
| Is note-taking-application-fatigue a thing yet? I feel like I
| might have it.
|
| I simply cannot look at the pros and cons of yet another
| application that will finally solve note taking better than what
| I do now. Trying it out, thinking it might be pretty cool until,
| 2 hours in, I find out about some total deal breaker yet again.
|
| (I won't mention what I am using now as that is besides the
| point. )
| asdff wrote:
| At this point its plain text documents for me. No set rules. If
| I need it in multiple places/version control/etc I throw it in
| a git repo.
| stinkytaco wrote:
| Few things here:
|
| 1. Note taking apps are easy to build.
|
| 2. Note taking apps are something many of us want and take
| pretty seriously (you say you find a deal breaker in a workflow
| as basic as note taking, which seems to indicate this is
| something you take quite seriously).
|
| 3. We have a desire to tweak our setup for whatever reason.
| Whether it's "if I can solve this one problem everything else
| will fall into place" syndrome, motivation, solving an actual
| problem or simply to avoid real work, productivity porn creates
| clicks.
|
| So yeah, I'm pretty tired of it, but I don't think fatigue has
| yet set it because it scratches and itch in many people.
| blfr wrote:
| Concurred. I have had checking out Notion.so on my TODO for
| over a year now while simply using Google Keep despite all of
| its problems.
| loudtieblahblah wrote:
| let me introduce everyone to StandardNotes
|
| - Fully FOSS
|
| - E2EE
|
| - Multi-platform (web, iOS, Android, Linux, macOS, Win)
|
| - designed for the "longevity" of your notes
|
| (https://standardnotes.org/longevity)
|
| - no limit on notes, all core features of the product itself are
| 100% free
|
| The paid version gives you:
|
| - 2FA
|
| - a long list of extensions, editors and themes
|
| - note version history
|
| https://standardnotes.org/
| [deleted]
| LilBytes wrote:
| I've been a long time subscriber to SN for all the reasons
| stated above.
| seppin wrote:
| +1. UI is a little basic, they could add basic shortcuts (like
| create a new note command+n), but security and transparency
| can't be beat.
| sammorrowdrums wrote:
| It's actually wrong about Roam - you can now encrypt individual
| notes by password
| https://mobile.twitter.com/roamresearch/status/1226658292333...
| egberts wrote:
| Ummm, still no self-hosting method.
| qwerty456127 wrote:
| Create up to 3 notes? Srsly? :-) I don't need to collaborate to
| 50 people like a real "pro" would but I won't even bother
| registering to create 3 notes. Something around 1000 notes would
| make a reasonable limit for a free personal edition.
| bin_bash wrote:
| I don't think that people understand that paid limits sometimes
| aren't there for you to hit or even get anywhere near. It's
| like how Dropbox doesn't offer a paid tier less than 2TB. It's
| not like most people need 2TB it's just that the idea is once
| you're paying it's unlikely you need to _worry_ about the
| limit.
| adamhearn wrote:
| Why? Why does the free edition owe you anything?
| lucideer wrote:
| It doesn't, but it is odd that this is marketed as something
| usable.
|
| . _" Personal Free: Ideal to get started"_
|
| A 3-note-limit is not "ideal" for anything.
|
| It would be better advertised as a free trial (purely for
| evaluating otherwise paid-only service), rather than
| pretending they have a free plan.
| westpfelia wrote:
| Well from an adoption standpoint it would be nice. I'm not
| going to even really bother with software that limits its
| free users so much. I mean I would TRY it but I'm not going
| to get a true experience out so few notes. And as a result
| I'm not going to buy it because I wasnt able to try it.
|
| I'm not saying 1000 notes is the answer. Maybe its 50, maybe
| its 500. But 3 certainly is limiting.
| macspoofing wrote:
| Nothing but you might as well have no free tier under those
| restrictions.
| ryanmcbride wrote:
| It's not really a matter of being _owed_ anything, it's more
| that a lot of people aren't likely to pay for something
| unless they know they're going to use it, and 3 notes doesn't
| seem like enough to really see if it's sustainable. They
| don't have to have a free tier at all, and likewise no one
| has to try the product out. However just because we aren't
| "owed" anything, doesn't mean we should just accept
| _anything_.
| lxgr wrote:
| Not offering a free version is totally reasonable, but
| calling this a trial version would seem more honest.
| mcherm wrote:
| It doesn't.
|
| But I'm not going to bother trying it at "3 notes for free".
| skrebbel wrote:
| It's an unlimited duration free trial. The copy suggests it's
| usable and fair enough, it isn't really. But that doesn't
| invalidate the remainder of the product. This looks like it
| just launched, they're likely still iterating on the copy.
|
| I mean, the same page _also_ says "We need to charge, because
| we can't sell your data", so let's not get stuck on such a
| small detail.
|
| I must say that for a just-launched utility SaaS, this looks
| remarkably well done. Clear targeting, good website, no
| nonsense.
| qwerty456127 wrote:
| This is reasonable, nevertheless they should give at minimum
| some dozens notes for people to actually try that. 3 notes
| sounds more like "fuck off". Even a time-limited (what I
| generally find a bad idea too) trial would be better. And I
| doubt some 100-1000 notes would eat too much resources unless
| they let you insert HD video in the notes (which absolutely
| should be a paid premium feature if it actually is there).
| bluehark wrote:
| Free version lets you create up to 3 (!) notes:
| https://www.serenity.re/en/notes/pricing
| helschickle wrote:
| I just ran the iOS app. It does not use any client side
| encryption (i.e. at application level at rest) only in transit.
| From what I can see it is also using the default iOS data
| protection class. So while this app might provide good security
| for data in transit it provides little or no security for a local
| attack on a device locked but AFU.
| meibo wrote:
| I wonder if building something like this on Matrix would be a
| good fit.
|
| Note "collections" would be rooms, to share collections you can
| invite people to your encrypted rooms.
| domoritz wrote:
| They actually do somewhat. The creator talked about it at
| https://twitter.com/nikgraf/status/1374666231861686274.
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