[HN Gopher] "When the entire household goes to bed, I do curl de...
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"When the entire household goes to bed, I do curl development for 2
more hours."
Author : danso
Score : 73 points
Date : 2021-03-18 17:38 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| UncleOxidant wrote:
| I guess I'm not sure what's left to do for a couple of hours
| every day on curl after 23 years (given that it fits into the
| unix philosophy of do one thing, but do it well)? Are there that
| many new features? Lots of bugs to fix? (I wouldn't guess so)
| Seems like it would only need a couple of hours of
| maintenance/month by now given the functionality.
| zerocrates wrote:
| I don't know the details of curl's development, but at least
| some of it must be just keeping pace with the shifting
| infrastructure of the internet: HTTP/2/3/QUIC/whatever, changes
| in TLS and the underlying libraries, that kind of thing.
| touisteur wrote:
| There's always a new version of HTTP around the corner...
| draw_down wrote:
| I use curl a lot so I'm glad it works for him. Having a part-time
| unpaid moonlighting gig doesn't sound like it would work for me
| personally.
| kissgyorgy wrote:
| This should not encourage anyone to seriously overturn their
| work-life balance.
| reedf1 wrote:
| I find I can enter a flow state with work more easily when I feel
| like the world is asleep.
| [deleted]
| grioghar wrote:
| I wonder what the science is behind this.
|
| If people are up, I can't lock in; there's a constant
| distraction somewhere in my mind.
|
| If I'm the only person awake in the house, I seem to hit flow
| state with ease.
| plumsempy wrote:
| it has become such a preference for me: silence, dimmed lights,
| some synthwave music, surrounded by all my machines and a lot
| of fun.
| matheusmoreira wrote:
| Same here. It's so relaxing when everyone else is sleeping. All
| other responsibilities fade away.
| zikzak wrote:
| This is exactly how I feel. That 1.5 - 2 hours each night
| when I know no one wants or needs me to do anything is
| invaluable for me mental health. I know I should get more
| sleep but I need that time to not resent the fact that I get
| so little time for "me". I get to work at 4:30am (time zone
| thing) and do a lot of the primary child care and chores.
| It's often 8:30pm before I'm done and even then the dogs
| water bugging me to go out, etc. My wife needs sleep so she
| heads up early and I just putter or stretch, sometimes I
| write a little code, or watch part of a show. Feels good.
| rektide wrote:
| Philip K Dick wrote about being out of the heat of God's light,
| not feeling the scorching heat of the palm tree garden upon us.
| I believe it was from one of the VALIS novels but I haven't
| gone back to dig it up, and could be wrong.
|
| Personally, I find I sometimes have trouble accepting good
| enough solutions. I want more structure, a better defined
| start. At night I can drop into a productive flow state with
| much less resistance. The hours run short; let's seize what we
| can from the waking hours. As well that "inspiration," I think
| there is probably a physiological barrier lowering that happens
| as we go into the night. As we recede from the gods' light, as
| it were.
| bradstewart wrote:
| So much this. Specifically (for me), it's the simple
| understanding that I will not be disturbed for as long as I
| care to focus, so it's worth the "effort" to get in the zone.
| Which of course means it only takes 30 seconds to get there.
|
| But the screwed up sleep cycles from years and years of this
| are starting to take their toll, so I've been trying everything
| I can to replicate that peace of mind during daylight hours. No
| silver bullet yet.
| Tade0 wrote:
| I've found that effective noise-cancelling headphones(e.g.
| Sony WH1000XM4) help somewhat.
| ashwoods wrote:
| For a few months my wife had a baking job that required her
| getting up at 4. I'd get up with her and start to work after
| breakfast. I'd have the days work before 9:00 standup. More
| time for sport and cooking. Think it was a healthier
| lifestyle in total. Social life was impossible though, we
| couldn't manage to stay awake long enough to meet up with
| friends. And impossible to maintain once she switched to
| another shift.
| the_cat_kittles wrote:
| cURL and VLC, not to mention linux etc... really call into
| question for me the idea that market forces are necessary or even
| beneficial to good software. curious to hear what i may be
| missing by making this inference though.
| r0s wrote:
| Maybe the two are related. IT work makes demands of your mind
| but not your body, so we're all up at night, not tired from a
| days work.
|
| I'd imagine manual laborers sleep much more soundly, and are
| less likely to code in their down time. (but maybe!)
| sparrish wrote:
| With 7 kids and working from home, my most productive work hours
| are after everybody goes to bed.
|
| Why waste those precious 'awake' hours on code when I can be
| enjoying my family?
| hnrodey wrote:
| I've had a few personal projects where I've spent several hours
| in the evening working to get it off the ground. What I've found
| is that my mind is so activated/stimulated that I then struggle
| to even fall asleep as the code is still dancing in my head. It's
| a real trade-off I have to make - stay up late to begin with to
| code on something and then another 45-60 mins to even fall
| asleep.
| ed_elliott_asc wrote:
| Get up an hour before everyone else and work in the morning
| lazyasciiart wrote:
| Then the trade-off is getting up an hour before I want to
| start work so that my mind can _start_ moving.
| globular-toast wrote:
| A few times I've had it affect my dreams. I was working on a
| toy OS a couple of years back. Similar to the OP I would work
| on it for a couple of hours every night after my girlfriend
| went home. One time after I was working on virtual memory I had
| a dream where I was in memory and there pointers and stuff. It
| was really weird.
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| I've definitely had it effect my dreams. But I've also found
| solutions to bugs by sleeping.
| ktpsns wrote:
| I also enjoy this special time in the night. It's just 11pm in
| central europe. But I also know my child goes up tomorrow morning
| at 7am the latest, and if I keep working until 3 or 4am (which I
| regularly do), I will have a very bad next day hangover. It's the
| constant problem with too little time...
| after_care wrote:
| Are you concerned about the health or cognitive complications
| associated with sleep deprivation?
| beforeolives wrote:
| Now I just wish that I had a project that I could do this for. Or
| that I was the kind of person who can keep up this type of work
| for so many years.
| Avalaxy wrote:
| How about any hobby projects from Kaggle, advent of code or
| something like that? I find those things very refreshing after
| my mundane day-job.
| jxramos wrote:
| yah if you have the drive I think there's lists of projects
| open and welcoming to beginners etc. I don't know of any good
| curated lists but a quick search led to..
|
| * https://stackoverflow.blog/2020/08/03/getting-started-
| with-c... * https://www.firsttimersonly.com/ *
| https://opensource.guide/how-to-contribute/ *
| https://github.com/MunGell/awesome-for-beginners
| albntomat0 wrote:
| I get up an hour or so early on most days to work on a personal
| project before my normal dev job.
|
| I find it's really helped my mental health, especially when work
| can be a bit frustrating (in entirely normal ways)
| bhaak wrote:
| Working 2 hours a day when nobody is bothering you and you have
| peace of mind to concentrate is tremendously valuable.
|
| Additionally doing that for 23 years, you can get done a lot of
| work.
| tartoran wrote:
| Especially when those 2 hours are enough to get the day
| workload done:)
| annoyingnoob wrote:
| I used to do this for my day job. Some of that late night code
| was pretty bad upon review the next day.
| globular-toast wrote:
| I did most of my computer science studies at night when the whole
| world was asleep. I have quite fond memories of finally finishing
| a piece of work as the sun was coming up and settling down to
| sleep at 6am. It was terribly unhealthy, but I learnt so much.
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