[HN Gopher] Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer
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Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer
Author : elvis70
Score : 573 points
Date : 2021-03-13 19:24 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| 1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote:
| He came over to NetBSD from Gentoo a number of years ago,
| bringing dhcpd with him. An excellent acquisition for NetBSD. He
| has been a dedicated and thoughtful BSD developer. This is very
| sad news.
| kblev wrote:
| Was this a paid job or volunteer?
| xianwen wrote:
| Volunteer.
| kjjjjjjjjjjjjjj wrote:
| :(
| CamouflagedKiwi wrote:
| A reminder that there's always a person behind software. It's
| been a few years but for a long time I used OpenRC and dhcpcd,
| made possible by Roy working away in the background. No matter
| what happens with his cancer, I'll always be grateful for that.
| KennyFromIT wrote:
| Messages like these are so sad to read. The world will never
| realize how many people are working tirelessly behind the scenes
| to keep society moving forward.
|
| Cheers to all of the silent (and sometimes not so silent) people
| that continue to give of themselves to make this world a more
| wonderful place in their own little way. You all are awesome and
| we literally couldn't go on with our way of life without you.
| pjc50 wrote:
| I call this "Postel decentralisation": everyone thinks there's
| some kind of system or institution making everything work, but
| in fact there's just a guy doing it all on his own.
| Fordec wrote:
| There's always a relevant XKCD https://xkcd.com/2347/
| caslon wrote:
| Interestingly, you seem to be the only person on the World
| Wide Web to ever have used that phrase (three times over
| three years?), but it's such a perfect description of such a
| common phenomenon that I'm pretty sure its propagation could
| save hours of time in typing for nerds on the Web.
| AceJohnny2 wrote:
| What does "Postel" refer to?
| zeckalpha wrote:
| Jon
| sterlind wrote:
| Presumably Jon Postel, who co-authored many RFCs
| foundational to the internet such as TCP, IP and DNS. As a
| single person he was very involved in the internet's
| architecture.
| smhost wrote:
| i mean, even within institutions, it's usually just some
| person hacking away behind the scene. what else would it be?
| nealabq wrote:
| Relevant: http://ccs.mit.edu/papers/CCSWP197/CCSWP197.html
|
| _Postel picked up the role of number coordinator because it
| needed to be done._
| politelemon wrote:
| It's the closest, or at least one of the closest, things to
| altruism in this field.
| wslack wrote:
| Nadia Eghbal's work and writing about this subject was eye
| opening for me.
| Rebelgecko wrote:
| I've been using a website for 15 years or so that had a similar
| situation. The creator/maintainer got a short prognosis, but made
| an effort to ensure that his service would outlive him.
|
| Even though I'll never meet Josh from Spamgourmet his work
| continues to make my life a little bit easier on an almost daily
| basis. I hope Roy's legacy is able to continue in the same way
| and that he gets some comfort from that.
| bombcar wrote:
| Dan Jezek died way too early and his family worked hard to keep
| BrickLink alive - and now it will continue as it's under the
| umbrella of the LEGO Group. https://www.danjezek.com/
| jaynetics wrote:
| I have used Spamgourmet almost since its inception. Maybe the
| first great SaaS, and you couldn't help but immediately notice
| it was built by a lovely person.
|
| Despite having only months to live, Josh was working on a plan
| to shut the site down in an orderly fashion as long as he was
| still able to notify all users, but then his son stepped in and
| took over part of the operation.
| azornathogron wrote:
| A tragic message.
|
| > I have been dealing with cancer for some time and sadly the
| treatment has not worked. My life expectancy is now fairly short.
|
| I'm not sure what to say in response, since I don't know Roy.
| Though the prognosis is bad, nothing is certain. I hope he and
| his family gets as much time as possible.
| 40four wrote:
| Very difficult to read. I think the only thing to say in this
| type of situation is to offer them whatever gratitude and love
| you can.
| spijdar wrote:
| The blog post mentions one person at the clinic he's being
| treated at has lived for 7 years on this treatment. Although
| the median is much lower, unfortunately :(
|
| Very sad to hear, even though (especially because?) I have
| never heard of Roy before now but have used dhcpcd for many
| years. I hope he gets as much time as possible, and enjoys what
| he has left.
| nextos wrote:
| Besides, having a tumor during the pandemic is particularly
| unfortunate as the standard of care has degraded mostly
| everywhere. Sadly, I know first hand.
|
| I hope he gets as much time as possible. Immunotherapies are
| improving all the time.
| imglorp wrote:
| So tragic.
|
| Generic cancer treatment in the US, with a few exceptions,
| was already a horrifying, barbaric affair: unless you have a
| cancer treatable with newer genetic or immune methods, it's
| still approached with cut, burn, and poison, like it's been
| for many decades, with varying results.
|
| Add to that a constant battle at every step with insurance
| for pre-authorization pitting your doctor against a
| corporation, then fight against oppressive rules for pain
| management, all possibly while a family struggles to care for
| the sick person and worry about going to work to pay for it
| all.
|
| I can't imagine adding covid into the horror. Best of luck to
| anyone facing this.
| Teever wrote:
| The developer's cancer blog seems to indicate that they
| live in the UK and are receiving medical treatment from the
| NHS.
| enriquto wrote:
| > Besides, having a tumor during the pandemic is particularly
| unfortunate as the standard of care has degraded mostly
| everywhere.
|
| Same here... I lost my dad to cancer at the height of the
| first lockdown, and it was really painful to overhear the
| oncologists that were treating him holding passionate
| conversations about covid and nothing else. The nurses were
| obviously overworked and did nothing else than provide
| morphine. Cannot complain about the professionalism of the
| care he received, given the circumstances. But I feel that I
| could have spend a few weeks more with him if he had fallen
| ill at a different time.
| einpoklum wrote:
| With many (most?) free software projects, implementing it and
| getting it to a stable working condition is only a fraction of
| the overall amount of work invested over time in maintaining the
| thing.
|
| Compilers change, system libraries change, operating systems
| change, build systems change, language standards change and so on
| - and you, who just wanted to write, say, a DHCP server you or
| your organization needed at some point in life, tear yourself
| away from your day job, your family, your current pursuits and
| interests - which have likely not included fiddling with that old
| piece of code you wrote all those years ago - and bringing it in
| line what the current state of things.
|
| Sisyphic work, which is usually rewarded mostly with complaints
| about why the thing is not up to date. "But they only just broke
| it! Do you expect me to spend my time also anticipating what
| infernal subtle ways the rug is going to get pulled from under
| me?" ... but you never tell people that.
|
| You dutifully write your fix and re-publish (which can also be a
| bunch more work, since the platforms for publishing your FOSS
| project also change).
|
| I salute you, Roy Marples!
|
| (and I donated.)
| dumbneurologist wrote:
| This is such sad news.
|
| > I did not accept this. I have young kids to watch grow up and a
| loving wife to grow old with. Life and time are the two most
| precious commodoties we will ever have.
|
| As sorry as I am that his hopes were futile, time and again the
| universe shows us how little it cares for these sentiments.
|
| Regardless of what resources one might have to protest, we are
| all slowly ground to dust.
| userbinator wrote:
| That's sad to hear, but to think about the situation a bit more
| deeply, is DHCP software really something that needs
| "maintenance"? The protocol is decades old and stable, and no
| doubt the implementations in equally-old routers and other
| equipment continues to function unchanged and interoperate with
| much newer equipment.
| spijdar wrote:
| Yes, without a doubt -- network software especially needs at
| least some maintenance to deal with security vulnerabilities.
| I'll say that not all software needs constant security
| supervision, but I think DHCP client/servers should. Among the
| other duties of maintainers. Bless all those who take up the
| thankless job...
| bartvk wrote:
| Of course it needs maintenance. Architectures change, packaging
| methods change, software is started differently or earlier in
| the boot process, etc.
| mnd999 wrote:
| It probably doesn't need many new features. But it needs
| someone to release bug fixes, and ports to new architectures,
| deal with CVEs etc.
| bch wrote:
| Browse his work[0] to see what's been going on with it. As a
| NetBSD user, I'm always happy and impressed to see dhcpcd
| getting the attention it does.
|
| [0] https://roy.marples.name/cgit/dhcpcd.git/log/
| anticristi wrote:
| Wow! If I were in a similar situation, I don't think I would have
| the strength to think about the future of my projects.
|
| Such a sad message.
| bch wrote:
| Roy and his work are brilliant.
| ronnier wrote:
| I'd like to donate but the PayPal app just spins :-/
|
| I'll try web
| exhilaration wrote:
| If the link doesn't work open the app or website and search for
| @rsmarples
| ronnier wrote:
| Web worked if any of you are having the same issue
| magnetic wrote:
| Do you need a PayPal account or is there a "take my credit
| card and check out as guest" option somewhere?
| ronnier wrote:
| Not sure. I already had an account.
| dgellow wrote:
| Fuck cancer :(
|
| I don't know Roy but feel so sorry for him and his family.
| bgorman wrote:
| This guy is a machine. Roy fixed several bugs in dhcpcd that
| allowed the megacorp I worked for to ship dhcpcd in millions of
| devices. I donated.
| moonbug wrote:
| but did the megacorp?
| kortilla wrote:
| Unlikely. If you expect something different you're missing
| the point of open source. Roy didn't have to fix anything if
| he didn't want to.
| ceejayoz wrote:
| I mean, it's not a legal obligation, but it might be a
| nicer world if we considered it an _ethical_ one.
| sneak wrote:
| I think perhaps you mean "moral" rather than "ethical".
|
| It is entirely ethical to use free software, even to
| generate massive profits, without paying anyone anything.
| That's literally the whole point of software freedom:
| you're free.
| Causality1 wrote:
| It's very disappointing that a man can go to the doctor with a
| rapidly growing lump and instead of cutting it out on the spot
| they make him wait for months of tests to come back, after which
| it's inoperable. Disgusting.
| aeturnum wrote:
| This is a sad reminder of the masses of invisible labor (unpaid
| and paid) that hold up our world. Social scientists have been
| studying how labor becomes visible (or invisible) for a while
| without finding obvious solutions to "the situation."
|
| How can we build a world where an infinite procession specialists
| like Roy can get the care they need and also find and train
| successors in their important work? Not just because we will all
| die, but also because we might all want to retire or go on long
| vacations or, even if we are good at it, change careers.
| numpad0 wrote:
| There's this half formed view I'm finding interesting: currency
| based economy is one way to assign workforces in the Earthian
| human society, but not the only way, and not just in
| motivational sense, there truly are other ways, in existence or
| to be studied/theorized or the world is in need of.
|
| If I was super rich or in power I could gather and pay a group
| of average people to make dhcpcd financially driven, but I
| can't see that working.
| numbsafari wrote:
| Is there anything like an "Open Source Hall of Fame", for
| recognizing and remembering significant contributors? It's not
| perfect, but perhaps it is a way to at least preserve the
| memory and the history.
| einpoklum wrote:
| Who is "significant"? If you make many people significant,
| you have a hall of fame so big that nobody can remember
| anybody. If you make few people significant, then most FOSS
| labor is again performed by unsung heroes.
| aerovistae wrote:
| I think this is an amazing idea. This needs to exist.
| david_allison wrote:
| Google publishes a list a few times a year with their Open
| Source Peer Bonus scheme:
|
| https://opensource.google/docs/growing/peer-bonus/
|
| https://opensource.googleblog.com/2020/10/announcing-
| latest-...
| stefan_ wrote:
| Linux has the CREDITS file where you end up once you drop out
| of maintainership of some subsystem:
|
| https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/CREDITS
|
| (e.g. https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/054c4610bd05)
| folkhack wrote:
| Ha - the last comment on that CREDITS list is pretty funny
| =)
|
| Definitely worth the full scroll.
| bombcar wrote:
| Poor Leonard stuck at third to last - has to be a big hit
| for someone with a name like that.
| sjtindell wrote:
| Just in my personal opinion, things like a UBI move us towards
| that world. It wound allow people flexibility.
| pm90 wrote:
| UBI + Government funded, free healthcare for everyone.
|
| It makes no sense that, with all the excess industrial supply
| that we have today, that we refuse to provide a basic minimum
| standard of living for all human beings.
| fastball wrote:
| The problem with healthcare is that "basic minimum" is
| wildly subjective.
|
| Healthcare is still _very_ expensive. There are diseases
| (including cancer) we could easily spend millions per
| patient on. Pulling out all the stops you could spend 10s
| of millions. But we really _don 't_ have that kind of
| societal overabundance, not yet.
|
| So how much do you spend per patient? Are there certain
| diseases that you don't spend any public money on because
| the interventions are so expensive compared to success
| rates? It's really not a simple set of decisions to make,
| and those decisions _do_ need to be made (or more to the
| point: agreed upon).
| jdavis703 wrote:
| This complexity was one of the major reasons the
| Affordable Care Act's public option was eliminated. There
| was going to be a group of people who made these
| decisions. But when the public found out they were deemed
| as "death panels" that would get to chose who would live
| or die.
| chrisbennet wrote:
| As opposed to insurance companies determining who would
| die?
| AussieWog93 wrote:
| The only reason it costs millions to treat cancer
| patients is because of medical patents allowing companies
| to extract profit margins of several thousand percent (or
| more).
|
| In countries like Australia, where drug companies have to
| negotiate a fair price with a single government agency,
| the cost of treatment is an order of magnitude lower.
| fastball wrote:
| This is not true.
|
| MRI machines are not expensive because of "patents". They
| are expensive because they are _expensive devices_ that
| utilize superconducting magnets which need a constant
| supply of liquid helium.
|
| Various drugs are expensive because (regardless of
| patents) there aren't enough patients to justify mass-
| production, so the price stays high. Sometimes even with
| mass production drugs are hard enough to make that the
| price _still_ stays high.
|
| Doctors are not cheap to train, so their services will
| always be expensive until we replace them with robots.
|
| There are a plethora of reasons why medicine and
| healthcare is expensive beyond "patents" - remove patents
| from the equation and you can still _easily_ spend
| millions per patient for various diseases.
| jpetso wrote:
| For diseases where there are just a handful of patients
| requiring sky-high treatment prices, it would be worth
| investigating whether society can spread their costs
| among enough people that the costs are bearable anyway.
| And 10 people yearly requiring a $10m (each) specialized
| treatment would cost a population of 100 million
| taxpayers a dollar each.
|
| Of course, if these treatments are more common at the
| same price, the social costs might be too high and we'd
| have to let people live or die depending on their
| financial situation or ability to fundraise.
| cpach wrote:
| Good point. Not only are physicians needed, nurses are
| needed as well. They might be cheaper to train and hire
| compared to physicians - OTOH, there are more of the them
| and the numbers add up. Not all diseases can be cured by
| simply taking a pill.
| chadcmulligan wrote:
| But millions per patient is the exception, most people
| don't have that spent on them, thats why it averages out,
| and why countries like Australia can afford public health
| care.
| fastball wrote:
| So Australia does not have any caps whatsoever on what
| they will spend for disease X?
| _Microft wrote:
| What problems do you see beside the ones that basically
| any country with a public health care system has (/has
| solved)?
| fastball wrote:
| What do you mean? A country having implemented a
| nationalized healthcare system does not mean the problem
| in question has been "solved", it just means that
| particular society has managed to agree where to draw the
| line. But this does not guarantee the population at large
| will continue agreeing indefinitely into the future.
| _Microft wrote:
| Umm... yes?
| grecy wrote:
| > _There are diseases (including cancer) we could easily
| spend millions per patient on. Pulling out all the stops
| you could spend 10s of millions. But we really don 't
| have that kind of societal overabundance, not yet._
|
| My Mum in Australia had a rare and aggressive form of
| lung cancer, discovered at stage four.
|
| She had almost three years of radiation, chemo, all the
| associated drugs, scans, treatments and even two
| different trial drugs.
|
| She never paid a cent, all of it on Australia's standard
| "heathcare for all".
|
| If Australia and many other countries can manage it, then
| more countries can too.
|
| Anything less is just an excuse.
| fastball wrote:
| The calculus is still not that simple. What if that
| economic output could've instead been directed towards
| better education for children, or reducing the use of
| something which is known to cause cancer in the first
| place (e.g. coal power plants)?
|
| The decision is simple for you, because it's your mom.
| The decision is not a simple one for a society.
|
| We do _not_ yet live in a post-scarcity world. Spending
| on one thing by necessity means less spending on
| something else.
| chadcmulligan wrote:
| Australia has free education as well, and optional
| private education. University is paid but fairly
| reasonable, and there's a loan system, though it could be
| better imho.
| midasuni wrote:
| Most (all?) advanced countries have government funded free
| healthcare for everyone. It's UBI that's the hurdle.
| paledot wrote:
| All, by definition. Claiming to be a first world/advanced
| nation without universal health care would be laughable
| if it weren't so tragic. Maybe one day UBI will be the
| same.
| jimbob45 wrote:
| In times of plenty, such socialism works well. In times of
| struggle and famine, someone other than you gets to decide
| how resources are allocated. Your hard work and instinct to
| survive no longer belongs to you at that point. Many today
| have only ever known times of plenty and think the USSR was
| a failure because of selfish leaders, not because there
| were genuinely hard decisions to make during struggle and
| famine.
|
| You see the narrative today being that whites don't deserve
| what they have. Whites don't deserve their hard work
| because it was built on empire building and slavery and
| privilege. To me, this is being set up to cripple
| capitalism, pretending that the hard work capitalism
| encourages is somehow false or fake.
|
| Yes, UBI would solve your problem in the short term.
| However, I think proponents of UBI are deviously attempting
| to downplay capitalism's benefits and entirely hiding UBI's
| drawbacks when society is no longer as well off (e.g.
| during wars)
| winfred wrote:
| The way I see it, we already have that world, with capitalism
| functioning as a filter.
|
| I worked my ass off to reach financial independence, now I'm
| dedicating the rest of my life towards helping other people.
|
| I've proven to be capable of using the system to a degree
| where I can do whatever I want, which allows me the freedom
| to help other people full time.
|
| It's not a perfect system, but I doubt UBI will be much
| better. At least capitalism filters out many of the people
| who shouldn't be helping others.
|
| Helping those in need isn't something everyone should be
| doing. Not every needy person should be helped and helping
| others in desperate need incurs a mental cost that's not easy
| to carry.
| duncan-donuts wrote:
| Why should any single person carry the weight of the person
| in desperate need? UBI + healthcare implies that there's a
| social safety net that creates an entire network of people
| to carry this weight. I don't have a clue if any
| implementations would successfully do this but to just
| throw people in desperate need to the wolves is inhumane.
| einpoklum wrote:
| > I worked my ass off to reach financial independence
|
| This is a false pursuit, and in a sense a vacuous
| statement.
|
| You are never independent of society around you. You are in
| constant need of others doing that invisible and visible
| labor - in production and in services - to maintain your
| way of life.
|
| It's only with Capitalism being the way it is that you need
| to "work your ass off" to not be financially dependent on
| your parents, or at the risk of a crisis and collapse upon
| losing your job etc.
| wizzwizz4 wrote:
| Much of that "desperate need" is _created_ , or _worsened_
| , by capitalism.1
|
| It isn't just a matter of "working hard". Say you're a
| brilliantly capable developer for three months out of every
| year, have around four months of chronic pain and bad
| mental health unpredictably breaking up the remaining time.
| Unless you're wealthy, capitalism doesn't let you get to a
| situation where your bad mental health doesn't disrupt that
| five month stretch where you could be doing worthwhile
| things - even if you _would_ make enough money in those
| three months to support yourself, when most of it 's going
| into paying off the debt you got into because you lost your
| job and _had to eat_ , it's difficult to do so.
|
| Think this is a bit much? Okay, how about this: you're in
| jail on suspicion of committing some crime or other. This
| lasts 11/2 weeks, before they realise that no, actually,
| you weren't guilty. But in the meantime, you've lost your
| job, and without the savings you'd usually gather prior to
| job-hopping... what then?
|
| You might've worked really, really hard to get where you
| are. For many, working really, really hard simply isn't
| enough.
|
| ---
|
| 1: "Capitalism" here is shorthand for "society being
| structured under the assumption that capitalism is a fully-
| general ideal solution for allocating all resources, and
| there are only a handful of narrow examples where it makes
| sense to do something else". There's nothing inherent to
| _capitalism_ that causes these things, any more than a
| chainsaw is responsible for felled trees. But this is
| pedantry, so I kept it out of the first sentence.
| lovecg wrote:
| > Much of that "desperate need" is created, or worsened,
| by capitalism.
|
| In what way? The life in general from the beginning of
| history to quite recently was horrible for most people
| most of the time. The explosion of worldwide wealth (for
| every single person) over the last 300 years was for a
| lack of a better word miraculous.
|
| What are the "desperate needs" in your view, and what
| magical system of government you're imagining that would
| do much better?
| smitty1e wrote:
| Perhaps you're correct, and my cynicism misplaced.
| aeturnum wrote:
| I support UBI! I also suspect that we need to go beyond
| universal benefits into grappling with the reality that
| different people have different needs. We'll need to agree on
| a way to discern which society should take on and which are
| individual.
| flatline wrote:
| It would allow flexibility for those who can manage their
| money successfully, and aren't horribly unlucky.
| Unfortunately that population is relatively sparse - the
| monthly stipend is going to be funneled into the pockets of
| unscrupulous lenders as fast as you can say, "easy credit".
| If it weren't the US, with our habit of lifestyle inflation
| and tremendous consumer and educational debt, I'd be much
| more optimistic about it.
|
| Would it be better than what we have now? Possibly! I'm
| fairly confident a real social safety net would be better. Or
| tight regulations around all that liquidity in the market,
| presumably pulled from elsewhere in the public coffers. At
| the end of the day it still sounds like wealth redistribution
| away from properly funded public works.
| justincormack wrote:
| Roy has been an incredibly helpful and dedicated maintainer,
| always helping people use it. Its the best dhcp client I know of
| too. Very best wishes in a difficult situation.
| rasengan wrote:
| Dear Roy,
|
| It is unfortunate you are dealing with this. I am so sorry and
| hope for the best. The Handshake founders had an airdrop pre
| allocated for you in the Handshake Blockchain [1] so there is
| about $64,000.00 in there that you can claim under marples.name
| as of writing.
|
| [1] https://dns.live/top.html
| ldng wrote:
| Maybe he has more urging matter than claiming this ? Thought
| about the paperwork and taxes handling ? Could you do that for
| him ?
| sleavey wrote:
| What does this mean? Did the founders decide Roy's work was
| worthy of the coin donation?
| joshuaissac wrote:
| I do not entirely understand how it works, but I think they
| allocated coins to users on GitHub based on certain metrics,
| and also reserved names in the top 100k sites on Alexa.
|
| I am not sure whether it is entirely automated, or if there
| is a human element in the decision-making.
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22504592
| tpmx wrote:
| Has Roy been doing all of this essential maintenance work for
| years without pay from some kind of corporate sponsor?
| gigatexal wrote:
| If there was ever a time for companies to step up it's now. I
| feel terrible for his family. Donated what I could.
| shadeslayer_ wrote:
| This is so sad because if you read his blog post from January
| 2021, he sounds so very hopeful and happy at the prospect of the
| immunotherapy working. It sounds like he discovered a new lease
| of life. Being thrown from that situation to the new prognosis
| which is infinitely worse, sounds like a hammer blow.
| vmception wrote:
| Cancer requires clinging to glimmers of hope. Yes, he felt that
| way at the time and yes, he wrote it down, but these
| improbabilities are all anyone ever has, its not over till it's
| over.
|
| I read that post too, going from a tiny undetectable bump under
| the skin that only his partner noticed, to unbearable pain
| pressing against his spine making him unable to sleep and think
| clearly.
|
| It seems like 4 months were wasted just getting appointments.
| genewitch wrote:
| There's a progression that is "forced" when you get a cancer
| diagnosis, especially if they have to surgically remove
| anything. They won't start chemo or anything else for several
| weeks post-op. It seems like you're trying to get
| appointments or whatever, but realistically, they're getting
| you in as soon as their liability (or patient care laws) says
| they can. Stage III, stage IV, doesn't matter. If they
| operate first, you're going to spend a lot of time waiting.
|
| If you're an american, remember that FMLA only lasts a
| quarter, so if you can go back to work after the surgery but
| before the chemo i strongly suggest you do that if there's
| any concern about insurance or whatever, since you're
| probably going to want to sleep for the first few weeks worth
| of chemo dosing. Good luck to 1/2 of the american population,
| because that's the rate of cancer in the US.
| 1996 wrote:
| > It seems like 4 months were wasted just getting
| appointments.
|
| That's the NHS "free" healthcare at play.
|
| Remember, you get what you pay for!
| sneak wrote:
| > _Cancer requires clinging to glimmers of hope._
|
| Does it, though? Is there anything that suggests the mental
| state of the patient is a factor in the efficacy of
| treatment?
|
| Pieter Hintjens has written a bit against the "fight" model.
| alecst wrote:
| A better mental state is its own reward, isn't it?
| teddyh wrote:
| https://xkcd.com/2347/
| samblr wrote:
| I believe open source work is amongst the greatest works of
| charities ever. It is just staggering the amount of work that
| goes building/maintainer open source. And I possibly wonder every
| week on who are these wonderful people creating/maintaining them.
|
| My heart goes to maintainer & family.
|
| Everybody in this forum needs to do a bit.
|
| Request everybody to donate generously via paypal mentioned in
| the link.
| samblr wrote:
| @Dang : Could you please change the title to convey this
| better.
|
| 'Dhcpd will need a new maintainer' - doesn't tell the real
| story.
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