[HN Gopher] The Sweden Solar System
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The Sweden Solar System
Author : e_proxus
Score : 267 points
Date : 2021-03-11 14:02 UTC (8 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.swedensolarsystem.se)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.swedensolarsystem.se)
| davidrm wrote:
| there's one in my hometown (Zagreb) as well!
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views
|
| Here's some blogpost with nice pictures
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| https://punkufer.dnevnik.hr/galerija/gdje-se-u-zagrebu-nalaz...
| didymospl wrote:
| I was just going to write that there's one in Zurich too
| (https://www.zuerich.com/en/visit/sport/planet-trail located in
| a very enjoyable area, highly recommend) but thanks to your
| wikipedia link I found a comprehensive list of them:
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model
|
| Looks like Sweden's model is in fact the largest in the
| world(that is apart from the original)
| sandworm101 wrote:
| >> Pluto and Charon are supported by two tomb-like pillars
| reminding of the mythological meaning of Pluto (Hades), the god
| of the underworld.
|
| And if anyone even thinks about removing that monument I will
| lead a total boycott of all Swedish educational institutions.
|
| In all seriousness, public art is how science and government
| present ideas. How planets are depicted, or not, modifies public
| behavior and thinking towards science. I do not want to see
| public art be used to promote one team of scientists over
| another[1] as they fight for naming rights to objects. The
| Swedish Solar System seems to have taken a very neutral stance on
| naming conventions, addressing most objects only by given name.
| It should stay that way.
|
| [1] "Planetary scientists" v. "Astronomers" as to who gets to
| classify objects. It is two increasingly different teams.
| josefresco wrote:
| There's one in northern Maine along Route 1 from Houlton to
| Presque Ise. Very cool, I annoy the kids with my excitement every
| time.
| InitialLastName wrote:
| My favorite part of that one is the tiny Pluto IIRC mounted on
| a plaque on a rest stop wall.
| zachbeane wrote:
| It extends to Topsfield. At the intersection of Route 1 and
| Route 6 there's a model of Eris.
| mayormcmatt wrote:
| Two years ago I visited Stockholm and rode a borrowed bike from
| the Sun (Globen) out to Mars (Morby Centrum) and visited all the
| planets along the way. Life goal is to do the entire thing.
|
| Trip only took a few hours and there are plentiful bike lanes to
| reach that far. Along the way, or on the way back, check out the
| Hagaparken, Natural History Museum, and campus of Stockholm
| University.
| specialist wrote:
| I don't understand the Jupiter model, as shown. Not that it
| needs to make sense to me.
|
| It'd be super cool to have multiple depictions of each planet.
| Like all the school kids along Mars' orbit could all make their
| own Mars.
| SamBam wrote:
| I get the impression that few of the planets are necessarily
| considered permanent installations, but rather sculptures
| that may get replaced over time.
|
| > Jupiter was for many years represented by an arrangement of
| flowers outside Sky City at Arlanda Airport. In may 2019 a
| new model was inaugurated in Hotel Clarion connected to Sky
| City. The model is in the form of a shining ring
| peteretep wrote:
| I hadn't appreciated that Saturn is almost twice as far from the
| Sun as Jupiter is, or how far out Uranus and Neptune are. Here's
| another representation (although obviously the planet sizes are
| way wrong): https://fineartamerica.com/featured/solar-system-
| distances-t...
| SamBam wrote:
| The spacing of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune actually
| seem quite natural in that image. It's the cluster of tiny
| rocks near the sun that distorts our perception!
| ggaughan wrote:
| I think there's an under-appreciated pattern to the distances:
| https://wordloosed.com/the-planets
| horsburgh wrote:
| New Zealand has one too:
| https://www.otagocentralrailtrail.co.nz/ride/an-interplaneta...
|
| It's hundred million to one, so the scale speed of light is a
| little under 3 m/s (10.8 kmh). So at a very comfortable cycling
| speed you're moving at twice the speed of light. Exactly as
| AnIdiotOnTheNet says you get through the inner planets in no
| time flat but it takes forever to get through the outer ones.
| AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
| We have something similar here in my home town, at a smaller
| scale [0], along local bike paths. You get from the sun to Mars
| in what seems like no time at all, but the distance from
| Neptune to Pluto is a little over 2/5ths of the entire ride.
|
| [0] 200M:1 http://www.spaceplace.wisc.edu/planettrek.htm
| arethuza wrote:
| "If the Moon were only 1 Pixel" gives a good sensation of the
| distances through the medium of scrolling:
|
| https://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem....
|
| Edit: Notice the option to travel at lightspeed.... this isn't
| quite as exciting as you might think.
| marshmallow_12 wrote:
| wow. you get a lot more respect for gravity after seeing
| that. basically, in empty space, i could exert an influence
| on a bottlecap 10,000 miles away. or something like that, the
| numbers are entirely irrelevant.
| lovecg wrote:
| Except if you could really approach lightspeed the distances
| would approach zero, so there's that.
| arethuza wrote:
| Time dilation as well, which probably helps ;-)
| bloodorange wrote:
| Melbourne has one too:
| http://thenomadicexplorers.com/sites/default/files/users/65/...
|
| (Not as big as the one in Sweden though)
| mncharity wrote:
| > Not as big as the one in Sweden though
|
| Not as big? Meh. It's a Megameter per millimeter! Yay![1] :)
|
| [1]
| http://www.clarifyscience.info/assets/2017-Atoms/assets0/r/1...
| Old user test video I did - Powers of Ten-like, but with 3
| order-of-magnitude chunking. Crufty source:
| http://www.clarifyscience.info/part/Atoms#how-to-remember-si...
| madspindel wrote:
| Never heard of this before - amazing!
|
| /a swede
| rmdsnd wrote:
| Same here, and neither did my gf even though we've both been
| there and spent a good +30 years a residents of Sweden. Really
| cool!
| h1fra wrote:
| amazing idea
| chromaton wrote:
| One in Gainesville, Georgia, USA:
| https://www.exploregeorgia.org/gainesville/entertainment/tou...
| Delk wrote:
| Apparently there are lots of these kinds of things around the
| world. I never knew that.
|
| There's one in the Helsinki area in Finland as well:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajam%C3%A4ki_Solar_System_Sca...
|
| The funny thing is that its most central parts (the Sun and the
| inner planets) are in the least central location, in a wooded
| area in the suburbs, close to an industrial zone. Many other
| similar models seem to have placed the planetary monuments in
| public buildings or plazas. Helsinki? Yeah, we'll place it in the
| middle of the woods next to a bunch of garages.
|
| (The reason for the location of the Sun might actually be that,
| according to the Wikipedia article, the model was designed by an
| amateur astronomer who has had his own observatory in the area.
| The model of Sun is also on a hill, which is nice and might make
| it more visible from further away except that, you know, it's not
| actually emitting a ridiculous amount of light.)
| dgritsko wrote:
| There's one with a 1 to 10 billion scale in Washington, D.C.
| The sun is located just outside the Air and Space Museum. Well
| worth your time to check out!
|
| https://www.jeffreybennett.com/model-solar-systems/voyage-sc...
| marshmallow_12 wrote:
| -Mars is connected to a plate in steel symbolizing the Earth.
|
| ?
| galago wrote:
| Eugene, Oregon, USA http://members.efn.org/~jack_v/
| ZeljkoS wrote:
| There are many of them around the world, maybe even near you:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_System_model#Scale_model...
|
| I live in Zagreb, Croatia, and we have "Nine Views":
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Views
| simplecto wrote:
| I'm shocked how many Swedes (and Stockholmers in particular)
| don't know this.
|
| They just think that Globen (the Sun) is just a big spherical
| venue.
|
| EDIT - but to be fair there is also a surprising lack of signage
| or announcement that such a thing exists.
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| Stayed in a hotel near the Ericsson Globe. No clue.
|
| When I saw the tiny Venus (or was it Mercury?) on a pedestal in
| downtown Stockholm, I suspected something was up.
| rob74 wrote:
| I don't think it was built this way with the intention to
| symbolize the Sun. Making it the center of a model Solar System
| was probably more of an afterthought (although a really cool
| one).
| TorKlingberg wrote:
| I mean, it is a big spherical venue. Representing the Sun is
| more of a secondary use.
| capableweb wrote:
| I mean, it's not super weird to see a globe structure somewhere
| and assume it's just a globe without being part of some
| elaborate country-wide solarsystem. Here is a tiny list of some
| more, but I'm sure there exists 1000s more around the world:
| https://second.wiki/wiki/liste_kugelfc3b6rmiger_bauwerke
| bellyfullofbac wrote:
| Well, if it was empty then it would be strange, but it's a
| venues hall for concerts, etc., and people could've just
| thought it's just the architects being creative.
| spurgu wrote:
| Globen just means literally "the globe".
| gardenerofwine wrote:
| Someone also built a scale model of the solar system in the
| desert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4524AAZdE
| GuB-42 wrote:
| Cody put a few solar system objects on a stadium, with
| distances to scale, the sun is represented by a pea. He then
| proceeds to drive cross country to put on the closest stars.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSIXLIzhzk
| smusamashah wrote:
| How true to scale is it?
| mannylopez wrote:
| Peoria, Illinois has one too and claims the "world's most
| complete large-scale model of the Solar System. The scale factor
| is 99,000,000:1, covering 6,000 square miles of Central
| Illinois."[0] and you can "become a part of the world's most
| complete large scale model of the Solar System by purchasing an
| Unnamed Comet Plaque in the Peoria Riverfront Museum Store.
| Unnamed comet plaques are located on all seven continents,
| stretching as far north as Barrow, Alaska, and as far south as
| South Pole Station, Antarctica."[1]
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| [0] https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-
| planetarium/comm...
|
| [1] https://www.peoriariverfrontmuseum.org/dome-
| planetarium/comm...
| philbert101 wrote:
| This is super cool! I've lived in Stockholm for almost 15 years
| and I had no idea about this.
|
| Just for fun I plotted the route on google maps. I have my doubts
| I'll be able to convince my wife this is a worth-while road
| trip...
|
| https://goo.gl/maps/TYTSnCVA9Vi8s4MMA
| anticristi wrote:
| Feels like part of the "hidden gems" tour. I live in Sweden for
| 8 years. I've been to an observatory and planetarium. I
| regularly visited Stockholm. I asked friends in arts. Nobody
| seems to know about this.
|
| Kind of embarrassing to find out about the SSS from HN.
| jb1991 wrote:
| Unrelated, but what do you think of Stockholm after 15 years?
| What part of the world were you coming from before you moved
| there?
| philbert101 wrote:
| Stockholm was my first love at first sight. I moved here in
| 2006 after a particularly long and cold winter. The day I
| arrived, it was a bright blue sunny sky, with a temperature
| just around freezing. I walked around these incredibly
| beautiful snow covered islands and over the frozen lake
| malaren. I almost crossed over the ice between the islands of
| sodermalm to kungsholmen, about 300 meters or so, but I
| chickened-out about half way through and turned back. I could
| have made it. There were fresh tracks from other people who
| had made it across that I was following. I've never seen the
| lake in kind condition since - Just one of the small regrets
| in life.
|
| I work in IT and Stockholm has been fantastic for my career.
| The Scandinavian countries are well-known for their advanced
| digitalization. Being a foreigner with a particularly non-
| Swedish approach to problem solving has helped me a great
| deal.
|
| I grew up in Australia but I've also lived and worked in
| London, Copenhagen and Singapore. One of the things I learned
| after living in as many places as I have, is that it's as
| personal as your taste in music, or food, or anything else.
|
| Stockholm and Sweden is not without it's problems though.
| Immigration is screwed up, taxes are high, and there are
| parts of the city I avoid. But no where is perfect. I know
| the problems here and I prefer them to the problems I've had
| living in other places.
| hycaria wrote:
| Poetic anecdote, really enjoyed it.
|
| Immigration is screwed in what way ?
| dehrmann wrote:
| I only spent a few months there, but I usually tell people
| it's a hard city to hate.
| null_object wrote:
| Been here 20 years. Like Stockholm, hate Stockholm_ers_
|
| Knew about the solar system model though.
| nixy wrote:
| You should definitely be able to convince her this is a road
| trip to take! On the way you will pass the lovely Virgin coast
| archipelago as well as be able to visit the UNESCO world
| heritage sites Decorated Farmhouses of Halsingland and the High
| Coast. Go for the road trip!
| lukego wrote:
| Yeah this is great right! We stumbled on Halley's Comet at the
| local science museum here in Skovde and it'll really spice up
| travel around Sweden for the kids a bit.
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| AdamN wrote:
| Would be sweet if they had the Voyager spacecrafts too.
| moh_maya wrote:
| There's one in Ithaca, NY (home of Cornell univ) as well. It's
| spread over 1.2 km, and is just a fun walk. [1]
|
| Ithaca is just such a wonderful place to live, winters included!
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| [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_Planet_Walk
| bluesmoon wrote:
| Also in the Boston Area. The sun, Mercury and Venus are in the
| Museum of Science. Earth is supposed to be in the Royal Sonesta
| hotel, but I believe it was moved to clean the area and never put
| back. Mars is in the Galleria mall, Jupiter is at South Station,
| and the rest of the planets are much further out. More details at
| https://www.bostoncentral.com/activities/landmarks/p1018.php
| jetrink wrote:
| > Earth is supposed to be in the Royal Sonesta hotel, but I
| believe it was moved to clean the area and never put back.
|
| Ha, that is straight out of a Douglas Adams book.
| natdempk wrote:
| Sadly it seems like a few of them are missing these days from
| the Boston equivalent:
| https://gregcookland.com/wonderland/2018/02/09/community-sol...
| mormegil wrote:
| One in Prague (CZ):
| https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9092952
| maxekman wrote:
| There is also a model in and around the natural history museum in
| Gothenburg, Sweden. Some of the planets are close to some really
| good MTB trails in the nearby forest Anggardsbergen!
|
| https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6teborgs_Naturhistoriska...
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