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       Show HN: Soapbox - drop-in audio for casual conversation with
       strangers
        
       Author : decanus
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2021-03-10 16:51 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | ceresstation wrote:
       | Love the focus on casual specifically, I feel apps like Clubhouse
       | really emphasize the "on stage" vs. "off stage" dynamic which can
       | lead to some really frustrating status seeking behavior (e.g.
       | chiming in to show off vs. out of genuine interest or care).
       | Excited to see where this goes!
        
       | denysvitali wrote:
       | I'm so sad to see iPhone-first applications. Can we please have
       | web versions first, and later on all the platform specific apps?
        
       | K7PJP wrote:
       | It's like ham radio without the radio. Or Clubhouse without the
       | influencers or NFT talk.
        
         | kawfey wrote:
         | As a ham, my thoughts exactly. Probably with a lot less talk
         | about ailments, the weather, and antennas though.
        
       | decanus wrote:
       | Hi everyone, my name is Dean. I am the founder of the Soapbox. I
       | launched this iOS App as a tool to casually talk to strangers or
       | friends on your own time. I came to work on Soapbox after I
       | experienced other social audio apps that started to detract from
       | recreating the experience of meeting new people in real life.
       | 
       | I launched Soapbox with the intention of creating a more casual
       | and spontaneous social audio app, that contains interactive
       | features for a more fun experience. I figured keeping the app
       | uncluttered and collecting minimal data, users would be more
       | spontaneous with the app and use it however makes them the
       | happiest. The difference between Soapbox and other social audio
       | apps are sixteen-person room sizes, no social hierarchy in rooms
       | (all users can mute/unmute by default), and our interactive
       | features. Anyone in a room can drop a link which will create a
       | preview for everyone to see or react to the conversation with
       | emojis, and admins can add in a game, poll, or other interactive
       | components directly into rooms.
       | 
       | Soapbox is mainly written in Go and uses WebRTC for streaming
       | audio, we currently do not use 3rd party services other than a
       | TURN server hosted by Twilio for our users behind a firewall. The
       | go WebRTC server is based on some of the amazing work done by the
       | Pion crew. We recently launched Soapbox Minis and built an open-
       | source SDK (https://github.com/SoapboxSocial/minis.js) so
       | developers can build Minis that interact with live Soapbox rooms,
       | this is still very early and actively in development.
        
         | bithavoc wrote:
         | Congrats on your launch, it's a pretty great experience. The X
         | button has to go away though, it's a weird behavior that I'm
         | trying to do other things in the app and it kicks me out of the
         | conversation.
         | 
         | Other than that it works pretty great.
        
           | decanus wrote:
           | Hey thanks! yeah we need to make that more intuitive, the x
           | button is to leave the room, but you can swipe down to hide
           | that view.
        
         | olah_1 wrote:
         | Seeing that privacy is a big concern with Clubhouse (not just
         | taking contact data, but also recording convos and who knows
         | what they do with them), is Soapbox implemented in a more
         | privacy preserving manner?
         | 
         | I'm not sure what can be done regarding e2e encryption when
         | we're talking about WebRTC and TURN, but I would love to hear
         | your take on this.
        
           | decanus wrote:
           | We take privacy insanely seriously, my prior job was actually
           | as a privacy preserving messaging protocol researcher. WebRTC
           | is by default encrypted. Right now its not e2e encrypted due
           | to bandwidth constraints, but we are working on adding this
           | to the app. Additionally we do not require you to share your
           | phone numbers or your contact list in order to use the app.
        
           | stunt wrote:
           | You can't have a group voice chat service without recording.
           | They will knock your door soon if you do.
           | 
           | There are just so much surveillance related regulations that
           | I can't believe that's possible. I have first hand experience
           | when I worked in the Telecom industry. Regulators do not
           | ignore any platform with substantial traffic.
        
       | gadders wrote:
       | This reminds me of the early 80's in the UK. I think for
       | 50p/minute or something you could dial a telephone number that
       | was essentially a group chat. Some kids at my school did it from
       | the school library which didn't make them very popular with the
       | authorities.
        
         | decanus wrote:
         | Yeah a couple of friends told me it reminds them of those, I
         | think they were called party lines!
        
           | Siecje wrote:
           | A party line was a home phone that was shared with your
           | neighbours. If your neighbour was on the phone and you picked
           | it up you would join their conversation. So you could pick up
           | the phone and listen in.
           | 
           | You had your own ring so you would know when the phone was
           | for you, but it would always ring. For example your ring
           | could be two short and two long.
        
       | Siecje wrote:
       | Is an Android version planned? What about web?
        
         | decanus wrote:
         | Yeah android is definitely gonna be worked on, we wanted to get
         | iOS right first. We were thinking about web but aren't sure
         | about it just yet!
        
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