[HN Gopher] YouTube will start deducting US taxes from creators ...
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       YouTube will start deducting US taxes from creators who don't live
       in the US
        
       Author : nwotnagrom
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-03-09 19:20 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (9to5google.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (9to5google.com)
        
       | pkaye wrote:
       | Here the countries with tax treaties with US.
       | 
       | https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/unit...
        
       | donmcronald wrote:
       | This feels like a really bad deal for non Americans. From Intuit
       | Canada:
       | 
       | > If taxes were deducted from your income, you can claim those
       | taxes as if you paid them to the CRA. Because you have a duty to
       | report all your U.S. income on your Canadian return, the income
       | is deemed taxable as Canadian income. The usually lower U.S.
       | income tax rate could leave you with an amount owing for the
       | difference between the United States and Canadian income tax
       | rates.
       | 
       | So Canadians pay (some) income tax to the US instead of Canada
       | and the US gives us nothing in return? It feels like those are
       | systems that were put in place with the assumption that earning
       | income in the US would require the use of US resources (ie:
       | living in the US).
       | 
       | That's just a flat out bad deal for Canada and Canadians, right?
        
         | viraptor wrote:
         | > That's just a flat out bad deal for Canada and Canadians,
         | right?
         | 
         | I'm expecting a thorough discussion and details soon from Linus
         | Tech Tips since they're Canada-based.
        
       | andrewnicolalde wrote:
       | This is insanity. It's not just the money taken in taxes, it's
       | the fact that you additionally have to deal with the additional
       | administrative overhead of filling out US tax paperwork, praying
       | you don't get it wrong or paying a US-focused advisor to do it
       | for you.
        
         | JPLeRouzic wrote:
         | I am not sure, at least it is the same on Amazon KDP. There are
         | three situations as summarized in the above link:
         | 
         | * Creator doesn't submit tax info.
         | 
         | * Creator submits tax info and claims a treaty benefit.
         | 
         | * Creator submits tax info, but is not eligible for a tax
         | treaty.
         | 
         | You have to pay your taxes somewhere, if you don't tell Google
         | that you pay them in your country, then Google is in charge to
         | collect the taxes at least for the part concerning US users.
        
           | tasssko wrote:
           | As an individual yes but i'm not aware of companies having
           | this problem. Does Google treats all its creators as people
           | (i.e income tax) only or does it have the ability to
           | recognise companies?
           | 
           | I guess i can close this with the disbelief that content
           | creators setup companies and then use Youtube as themselves.
           | What kind of accounting shenanigans would be required to be a
           | company and content creator on youtube? I am genuinely
           | interested.
        
       | alexbiet wrote:
       | That $1.9 trillion stimulus has to come from somewhere.
        
       | davidhbolton wrote:
       | It's actually not that difficult. Yes you do not want to make any
       | mistakes ($1000 fines) but there are companies who will sort this
       | out.
       | 
       | There are plenty of people, myself included who live outside the
       | US and get paid from US earnings with no tax deductions in the
       | US. It helps of course if your country has a withholding treaty
       | like the UK does with the US.
        
         | mdotk wrote:
         | I believe even with a tax treaty, that Youtube earnings will
         | now be taxed 5% regardless.
        
       | tibbydudeza wrote:
       | So why is it for Youtube content creators ???.
       | 
       | If I make money from using AWS and my server is hosted in the US
       | region will I eventually get a taxbill for providing a service to
       | US customers ???.
        
         | skinnymuch wrote:
         | AWS or any host do not pay you. You're only paying them.
         | YouTube pays people.
        
         | jasonv wrote:
         | Youtube pays out to creators.
        
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