[HN Gopher] It Is Costing San Francisco $5k/Month for Each Homel...
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It Is Costing San Francisco $5k/Month for Each Homeless Tent
Author : baron816
Score : 18 points
Date : 2021-03-05 20:25 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| mensetmanusman wrote:
| So much cheaper to pay hotels...?
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| sushid wrote:
| Are you stating that it's NOT cheaper to pay for hotels? The
| article explicitly addresses this
|
| > The cost boils down to $190 per tent per night, which
| includes 24-hour security, bathrooms, maintenance, and three
| meals per day. This is cheaper than the per-day cost for the
| hotel program, but the hotel program is getting 100% federal
| reimbursement. (Thanks, Biden.)
| aleister_777 wrote:
| They don't actually cost that much. The corruption and grift
| costs that much, but the tents are much less expensive.
| noodlesUK wrote:
| Seeing the horrible conditions homeless and desperately poor
| people face in the US is one of the deeply shocking things about
| coming from the EU. Even in poorer countries in Eastern Europe,
| you don't see the kind of totally fucked up living situations
| that you do in SF and Seattle. What can a person do to help with
| this, as the government (at least federal/state level) seems to
| have no desire to do anything about it? Is it because there's no
| medical care available? Is it because of housing? Wages? What?
| How do we fix this?
| lupire wrote:
| Those cities have the most homeless people because they have
| the best weather and political support for homeless people to
| survive than anywhere else. They are better not worse.
| supersour wrote:
| There's a similarly tragic problem with Vancouver East side.
| bsder wrote:
| Dunno about everywhere in Europe, but the area around Gare du
| Nord struck me as pretty far down the scale.
|
| Universal healthcare would sure be a good start in the US.
| BitwiseFool wrote:
| It's a really peculiar situation, and the cities you mentioned
| spend hundreds of millions on homeless programs and the
| politicians there have tried a slew of policies but to little
| avail. You could always argue the government needs to do even
| more, but it's wrong to say our politicians have no desire to
| do anything about it.
| robertlagrant wrote:
| I know this sounds cynical, but I really think that
| politicians' policies - which are just plans to spend other
| people's money - are no substitute for motivated people
| actually going out and making a difference.
| nessguy wrote:
| Are you sure there's not similar situations in Europe? I'm sure
| the healthcare situation over there helps a lot, but it looks
| like there's still groups of people living in tents in some
| places. https://www.politico.eu/article/homelessness-qa-freek-
| spinne...
|
| I know Japan also has a bunch of homeless people living in
| tents as well, I've seen them riding around collecting cans to
| recycle for money.
| nickfromseattle wrote:
| I spent 8 months in Belgrade, Serbia.
|
| I only saw one crazy homeless looking person, and they were
| being actively treated by non-LEO services.
|
| Europe, and Eastern Europe runs a tight ship when it comes to
| unsheltered homeless.
|
| BTW, fun fact - Serbia has the 6th highest per capita gun
| ownership [0] and 173th lowest per capita murder rate. [1]
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilia
| n_g...
|
| [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intenti
| on...
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