[HN Gopher] Puppy Assistant: the smart home for my dog
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Puppy Assistant: the smart home for my dog
Author : atosatto
Score : 8 points
Date : 2021-02-28 11:55 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| dagmx wrote:
| A lot of our smart home stuff is primarily around our dog as
| well.
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| Cameras to watch the dog when we're out and lights to turn on
| when it starts getting dark.
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| We also have a training treat dispenser so when she barks at
| strangers, it'll dispense treats to keep her distracted and learn
| to calm down instead of barking.
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| In many ways, dogs are like kids, and you go through the same
| things for them.
| sokoloff wrote:
| I can imagine that feedback mechanism could go badly. Want a
| treat? Randomly bark.
|
| I say this only because we did not manage to successfully train
| out the bark at strangers behavior in our otherwise pretty
| well-trained dog.
| wombatmobile wrote:
| In real life you achieve this by physically restraining the
| dog with your hands for 15 seconds in an unambiguous manner
| when it does the unwanted behaviour.
| Judgmentality wrote:
| Please don't do this. This is a horrible way to train dogs,
| and not only is the efficacy questionable but it will very
| likely lead to behavioral issues down the line.
| wombatmobile wrote:
| It's not a horrible way to train dogs. What is horrible
| is the image you have in your mind of what I am saying,
| which is a misunderstanding.
| Judgmentality wrote:
| Please don't double down. I've raised several dogs, and
| fostered at least a dozen throughout my life. I am
| regularly the "last guy" for problem dogs because nobody
| else knows how to handle them, and have dealt with many
| dogs who have attacked humans (and I have been bit many
| times dealing with these dogs).
|
| I saw from your other comment that you learned this from
| Cesar Milan. Well like most celebrities, his advice can
| actually be harmful. You have to realize this entire
| guy's job is to sell you himself so he can make money
| from his brand.
|
| https://medium.com/@vandanni.hadai/cesar-millan-the-
| problem-...
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| EDIT: Redacted recommendation based on comment. Normally
| I'd leave it, but if there's even a 5% chance that
| comment in the reply is true I do not want to encourage
| it.
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| Instead, try this book:
| https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761168850
| wombatmobile wrote:
| > Please don't double down.
|
| I don't understand what you mean by that phrase. In the
| context of my comment, it is a non-sequitur. You're not
| really conversing with me. You are conversing with
| yourself.
| dagmx wrote:
| Quite a few people in the dog community aren't fans of
| canine intervention either.
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/puppy101/comments/lrok2i/whats_e
| ver...
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| He's just another Cesar like trainer, just for a slightly
| newer age. I'd recommend not following his advice either,
| and consulting more positive reinforcement based
| behaviorists.
| Judgmentality wrote:
| Have any good recommendations?
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| Based on what I saw, he was focused around positive-
| reinforcement. But I only watched 2 episodes. It was
| clear the show was edited, but it didn't seem nefarious.
|
| Let's see if we agree on this. I recommend this book, do
| you (I'm not trying to pick a fight, just trying to see
| if/where we agree)?
|
| https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0761168850
| dagmx wrote:
| Unfortunately I haven't read that book to be able to
| comment. It does sound promising?
|
| My wife recommends https://www.amazon.com/How-Behave-
| Your-Dog-Behaves/dp/079380... as a book.
|
| In terms of shows, there's unfortunately not a ton of
| positive reinforcement shows, at least that I can think
| of. Possibly because it's more work and less short term
| magic. The shows with Victoria Stilwell are probably the
| most prominent as a positive reinforcement show. Though
| perhaps a little dated. Supposedly she has a YouTube
| channel where she corrects her past episodes based on
| more modern thinking.
|
| The puppy101 Reddit generally has some good content
| listed, and I see they've listed Larry Kay there. So I'm
| inclined to think I'd be pro the book you linked just
| based on the other recommendations on there.
| Judgmentality wrote:
| Thanks, I appreciate it. Cheers.
| dagmx wrote:
| That isn't really recommended training by most
| behaviorists. You risk upping the dogs negative association
| and stress with events.
|
| Negative reinforcement training isn't great.
| wombatmobile wrote:
| I didn't say to hurt the dog. This is a communication,
| not a stressor. It is recommended by Caeser Milan.
| dagmx wrote:
| Cesar Milan is a terrible example of dog behaviour
| training. Most of the dog behaviorist community
| dissaproves of his methods.
|
| Positive training is much more the norm these days.
| Cesar's techniques can create terrible feedback loops
| that create worse behavior long term.
| dagmx wrote:
| If done with a proper supporting training, it's to redirect
| their attention onto their safe space.
|
| It doesn't necessarily train them from barking at strangers
| but it gets them into a more relaxed state, which can let you
| use other tricks to decondition them.
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