[HN Gopher] Researchers find stem cells for hair regeneration
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Researchers find stem cells for hair regeneration
Author : biotekk
Score : 143 points
Date : 2021-02-24 15:31 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| atum47 wrote:
| I recently went through a hair transplant. I'm not completely
| bald, but my hair was thinning each passing day. I was shaving my
| head, but when I got the opportunity to do the surgery, I took
| the shot. I'm on my third month and already have some results,
| but after the 7th month is when I really should start seeing the
| difference.
| ryanianian wrote:
| Will you have to get "touch-ups" in a few years after more of
| the original hairline recedes?
| pyrophane wrote:
| It sounds like the approach here is to take some hair from your
| head, use it to culture new hair follicles, and then implant
| those.
|
| Also of note, they haven't started clinical research yet, so that
| would be the next step. If that pans out, then presumably there
| would be trials, which means this probably would not practically
| be available for many more years.
|
| As an aside, this kind of thing seems quite common in the area of
| hair loss, where early research or hypothetical treatments are
| hyped up. I'm not sure if it is just a function of popular media
| sensationalizing the situation or researchers hustling for money
| to do research.
| starkd wrote:
| It happens time and again. Ever notice it's always "just 5 to
| 10 years away". It's a ploy to gain research funding.
| jlos wrote:
| It's always a sad to read the comment section when discussing
| male attractiveness; so many people with learned helplessness.
|
| Being attractive is 3 traits: physical fitness, grooming, and
| sociability. The first two are easy
|
| 1. Find a sport and hit the gym. There is a sport out there you
| will enjoy (racket sports, team sports, martial arts, running,
| rock climbing). As a creature, you are meant to be active and
| without a sport you are living sub-optimally.
|
| 2. Find a healthy diet. Not keto or some temporary quick fix, but
| a habit of eating that is enjoyable and good for you.
|
| 3. Get a properly fitting wardrobe and a good barber. You don't
| have to break the bank or be a fashion model to look well-groomed
| on a regular basis. You will feel good about yourself too.
|
| 4. Sociability and confidence are the most work but still a mix
| of skill and attitude. I can't stress this enough, but if you
| feel that you can't be attractive thats the result of your
| environment not some inherent limitation in you as a person.
|
| Everything else on top of these points are just extras. Nice
| hair, big eyes, high cheekbones, whatever else just improve on a
| base level of attractiveness. Go find guys who are fit, well
| groomed, confident and bald, then ask if they seem attractive.
| DC1350 wrote:
| It's really cruel to talk about how important barbers and
| haircuts in a thread full of guys who are insecure about their
| hair.
| pretendscholar wrote:
| Most bald guys have hair just not that much on the top.
| Shaping the remaining hair in a fashionable way is
| imperative. Looking like George Carlin in his later years
| with long unkempt hair on the sides and a bald spot on the
| top is not sexy.
| jlos wrote:
| Barbers also trim beards. They will also help you decide a
| good look for what hair you have, even if it's shave, buzz
| with a fade, etc. Again, well groomed is more important than
| the actual cut.
|
| For the record I shave my head. But I also regularly get
| compliments on my beard which is due entirely to having it
| trimmed by a barber every 2-3 weeks.
| trefoiled wrote:
| I'm pretty sure most people would agree the structure of your
| face is much more than an "extra," and belongs in the same
| category as physical fitness, grooming, etc.
| badfaceshape wrote:
| Yes it is definitely. I am in 30s and have never once had a
| woman hit on me though I am fit, sociable, and groomed well.
| Though my face is perhaps worse than the average person who
| may be non-handsome.
| adamredwoods wrote:
| Female pattern baldness and alopecia are (IMO) much more
| impactful to a person than male-pattern baldness.
| subsubzero wrote:
| Really there currently is no cure for baldness, it basically
| boils down to two treatments(in the US:
|
| 1. Preventative treatments - These are to stop hair falling out
| and cannot regrow dead follicles, these treatments are
| minoxidil(topical liquid applied to head) and propecia(a pill
| which has sexual side effects).
|
| 2. Hair Surgery - A Surgeon removes hair follicles from the sides
| and back of a patients head and then implants them into the
| balding area(Elon Musk had this procedure). This is limited by
| how bald the person is as you cannot take too much hair from the
| sides/back as it looks bad.
|
| So when reading towards the end it looks like the researcher
| found a way to 'clone/culture' hair follicles, so basically this
| will allow hair transplants of 'unlimited' amounts of hair see #2
| that will never fall out at least is how I read it, please
| correct me if I am wrong.
| klaudius wrote:
| There's a case [1] of an old guy who fell into coal fire and
| regrew his hair. He basically regenerated his skin and his
| hair. Microneedling [2] has been used successfully to regrow
| hair.
|
| Methods like minoxidil and finasteride work well as
| preventative measures. However, it has been shown that with
| advanced balding there are skin changes (e.g. fibrosis), so you
| have to regenerate your skin first if you are visibly balding
| and then use preventative methods to not lose your hair.
|
| There are some encouraging results [3] with people using skin
| regeneration methods like microneedling together with minoxidil
| & finasteride.
|
| [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1351889/
|
| [2] https://perfecthairhealth.com/microneedling-frequency-how-
| of...
|
| [3] https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/one-year-
| fight...
| iMark wrote:
| Shaving my head was the best decision I ever made regarding my
| hair. I never knew what to do with it before that.
|
| Vastly happier now.
| thewarrior wrote:
| This worked for me too and has been pretty neat during the
| pandemic. The key is to do proper fades on what is left and
| balance out with a little bit of a beard.
| tuckerpo wrote:
| Your best bet is 5AR enzyme inhibition _before_ you notice
| significant loss.
|
| Anything else is swimming upstream.
| snshn wrote:
| A public company called Replicel (https://replicel.com/) has been
| working on it for years.
|
| I wonder if they will be the ones to license that research and
| bring the product to market.
| strawBarry wrote:
| I'm in my 50's and have a full head of luxurious hair, with
| almost no gray. I don't say this to brag, but rather the
| opposite, it has never helped me in any way to attract women. In
| fact, if I let it grow out it looks terrible because I just look
| like an old man with young man's hair. Very disconcerting in the
| mirror. I guess my message is...hair doesn't matter as much as
| people are led to believe.
|
| Teeth on the other hand...if they can grow me back a set of
| pearly whites instead of the tea/soda-infused yellow ones I have,
| I'll give them all my money.
| SyzygistSix wrote:
| Off subject: yellow is the normal color of teeth. Exceptionally
| white teeth look really weird, although the artificial,
| plastic, tv look is apparently embraced by some.
| Koshkin wrote:
| It's acquired taste (as many things are). That said, they
| would indeed look weird in Boris Johnson's mouth.
| jerrygoyal wrote:
| > pearly whites teeth I blame ads like colgate for this,
| natural teeth have yellowish hue.
| rabuse wrote:
| I have the opposite experience. I have pretty long hair for a
| guy, and it's extremely wavy and full, and it attracts women
| all the time when I'm out. They love to braid it, and style it.
| kowlo wrote:
| Women are attracted to you and start braiding and styling
| your hair whilst you're out?
|
| I must be missing something.
| rabuse wrote:
| Yes. I frequent bars a lot on the weekends, and it's almost
| every time. It's also a great conversation starter.
| kowlo wrote:
| I can see how it would be a great conversation starter!
| If someone started a chat with "women can't help but
| braid my hair" then I'd be hooked.
| [deleted]
| hedgehawk wrote:
| I'm sorry but I completely disagree with the folks that are
| saying to just shave it off and that the "only person worrying
| about your hair is you". That is completely untrue, especially in
| our society today. I just turned 23 and have been dealing with
| this issue since I was 20 years old. It's an absolute nightmare.
| Even on hair-loss medications, there is no maintaining.
|
| Being a relatively above-average individual in terms of my looks,
| losing my hair has definitely made me lose alot more attention
| from women. Not to mention my confidence has gone straight down
| the strain and I find it hard to focus on other aspects of my
| life like my work and hobbies.
|
| Many of you will reply with seeing a therapist or getting help
| but you need to understand that most people in their early 20s
| have a full head of hair. I am honestly not trying to be
| pessimistic but chances are you are an outlier if you were dealt
| a garbage genetic hand like me. I also understand that it's not
| like I have this debilitating disease but this should be
| considered a more serious issue that should be getting more
| funding.
| fossuser wrote:
| The short and true answer is that it sucks, but it gets better
| as you get older.
|
| I ended up going shaved head at 25, late twenties were better
| than early twenties (also I think that's just generally true
| for men and dating).
|
| The other bit I found is that the decision to shave it and
| accept it lead to an increase in overall confidence which also
| helped.
| voisin wrote:
| I have Alopecia Areata. It meant I had bald spots (pure bald -
| not just thin) of varying (and ever changing!) size from around
| 4 years old. I know how you are feeling first hand from the
| hell I survived at the hands of other children when I was young
| and the awkwardness of teenage dating with bald spots. It took
| me a long time to work up the courage to shave it all off - I
| did so at 19. I have no idea why it took so long. But I can
| tell you that it was _the_ defining moment in my life. It's
| been nearly two decades since I shaved my head and I've had
| numerous successful businesses, made a shit ton of money and
| retired in my 30s with a wife who is a 12 /10 that draws more
| looks from other men than I care for. Hair doesn't have to
| define you. It can and will if you let it. Or you can tell it
| to go fuck itself and shave you head and never think about it
| again. People are drawn to confidence. Eliminate things that
| are destroying your confidence. Confidence comes from self
| love. At the end of the day, if it isn't hair it is something
| else - every single person is struggling with something they
| don't love about their bodies. Hair is relatively easy to
| overcome. Good luck!
| hedgehawk wrote:
| I appreciate the story and the kind advice, definitely helps
| to know I'm not alone. Regardless, my hair has been part of
| my identity and is something I take pride in. When I envision
| myself in the future with something I no longer have, it can
| be traumatic because I always assumed my hair wouldn't fall
| out until maybe my late 20s.
|
| Maybe its my excuse but I haven't reached the stage where I
| need to completely shave it off (diffuse thinning) but I pray
| and hope that better treatments are available when the time
| comes. Or maybe i'll get a hair system lol..
| sxv wrote:
| > Not to mention my confidence has gone straight down the
| strain and I find it hard to focus on other aspects of my life
| like my work and hobbies.
|
| I'd bet the attention from women issue is likely stemming from
| the confidence loss more than the hair loss. A bit of a chicken
| and egg problem but if you can somehow hijack your confidence
| level I think you'll see that's where the true power lies.
| Personal recommendation: give up on salvaging it. Own it.
| johnfn wrote:
| Just want to chime in that when I was 23 I got no attention
| from women (mostly on dating apps). Now I'm 30 and the
| attention I get has skyrocketed. I'm losing hair too - I've got
| the Bernie Sanders look going haha - so I think that there's a
| strong age component in there.
|
| Just wanted to throw that out there because I was seriously
| dejected a few years ago over this, but things have gotten
| better and better as I've gotten older.
| fossuser wrote:
| Yeah I think this is a general truth (and it's the inverse
| for women, where it starts easy and gets a little harder).
|
| Early twenties dating for men is hard, particularly in a
| skewed place like the bay area.
|
| If I had to guess it'd be about status (young men are pretty
| low status) and age preferences. If women generally prefer
| someone a couple years older, the ones that might be
| interested in you are in college when you're 22 so are not
| really in the same dating market.
| hedgehawk wrote:
| Yeah, I mean I just graduated and I went to school in the
| bay area. Dating was much more difficult for me during my
| senior year but maybe I just need to go for older women now
| lol.
| fossuser wrote:
| I guess I wouldn't stress too much about it.
|
| It gets better.
| hedgehawk wrote:
| I appreciate your story but you're pretty much telling me
| that my dating life is going to suck for a couple of more
| years but it'll eventually get better, lol.
|
| But I do understand where you are coming from. I'm hoping
| better treatments come out soon..
| johnfn wrote:
| Is there anything wrong with that? Back when I was younger
| I just thought I was going to be ignored forever - I would
| have killed to know that that wasn't the case.
| bitbuilder wrote:
| >I would have killed to know that that wasn't the case.
|
| Same. It's actually pretty important information to know
| at that age, as it'll help prevent you from settling into
| a LTR with someone that you're not compatible with,
| because "I'll never do any better."
|
| I was most recently single at 43, and my dating prospects
| were pretty great compared to what I experienced at 22.
| If 22 year old had been able to foresee that, I would've
| saved myself quite a bit of grief.
| jlos wrote:
| >> Not to mention my confidence has gone straight down the
| strain and I find it hard to focus on other aspects of my life
| like my work and hobbies.
|
| I'm going to suggest your loss of confidence is not an affect
| but likely the cause. Your emotional strife and lack of
| confidence will project in your body language.
|
| >> chances are you are an outlier if you were dealt a garbage
| genetic hand like me
|
| Do you think your genetics on a single point (hair) determine
| your overall attractiveness? Are there bald men who can gain
| attention from women?
|
| Have you tried listening to someone like David Goggins (Don't
| Hurt Me) for a different perspective?
| hedgehawk wrote:
| I don't think my loss of confidence is the cause.. I was more
| than confident (if anything overly confident) before I was
| losing my hair. I'm not sure if you are also dealing with
| hair loss but it's hard for me to converse with people who
| simply aren't going through what I am experiencing. And I'm
| able to shield my emotional strife and lack of confidence for
| the time being with hair fibers so it hasn't affected my body
| language (I know it's not healthy to bottle my bitterness
| inside).
|
| The general consensus of people who try to "fix" my issue is
| that I need to go to the gym and become Dwayne Johnson lol.
| It's not that simple. I'm already a gymrat and I would say I
| have a great wardrobe and style (thanks to my brother).
|
| But more to the point, I don't think my hair determines my
| overall attractiveness. BUT, I do think it plays a big part.
| There are not many bald 23 year olds that attract women who
| are also 20-25 years old. That's the hard truth I'm trying to
| deal with.
| dartharva wrote:
| People overestimate the impact of meagre things like the shape of
| your face and the richness of your hair, when actually what
| matters more is your fitness, your gait and posture, and the
| strength you show in carrying yourself; even if we're only
| talking about appearances.
| Koshkin wrote:
| In practice, age comes first 90% of the time.
| saiya-jin wrote:
| All combines into a final impression. Great body and all the
| rest can be easily ruined by ie weird shape of your head,
| something hair can hide very effectively. Final impression is
| not the sum of positive parts as much as negative ones (and for
| attractivity the lack of those).
|
| Its like saying look it easy for me, I've done it so anybody
| can. But not all have the same conditions, genes etc.
| superbcarrot wrote:
| They're different attributes though. It's hard to argue that:
|
| - all other things being equal, people with full hair are more
| attractive than people with thinning hair / bald people
|
| - if you aren't balding, you should still take care of your
| fitness and posture
|
| When you tell someone who is balding to get fitter, what you're
| leaving out is that "fit + hair" still looks better than "fit +
| no hair". So the fitness/posture thing is almost a distraction
| in the argument.
| throwaway316943 wrote:
| I don't think the first conjecture is as iron clad as you
| make it out to be.
| jgrahamc wrote:
| The most oft-cited example of successful hair restoration (at
| least in technology circles) is Elon Musk. And yet there doesn't
| seem to be concrete information about what he did. I assume a
| well performed hair transplant.
| cgh wrote:
| Yeah, he had a hair transplant. Numerous (most?) male actors
| have them as well. It's a routine operation and it works pretty
| well. I know a few guys who had transplants and you can't tell
| they aren't natural as the surgeons are good at creating age-
| appropriate hairlines. The hair comes from the back of the
| head, out of range of the androgen-sensitive follicles in the
| classic male pattern baldness zone.
| voisin wrote:
| I understood that hair transplants don't look natural because
| the implants are not at the random angles of natural hair
| follicles and so the hair tends to look "stiff" and
| unnatural. This does seem to be the case with Elon.
| cgh wrote:
| It's down to the skill of the surgeons. You get what you
| pay for, I suppose. Many people fly to Turkey because hair
| transplants there are cheap for some reason but from what
| I've heard, results can be poor for the reason you state.
| rhcom2 wrote:
| My understanding is that you're still on finasteride for the
| rest of your life with a hair transplant.
| cgh wrote:
| It depends. For the obvious case where you are 100% bald,
| eg a classic receding hairline, then there is no need. But
| if you get a transplant into a thinning area where there is
| still active loss happening with the remaining follicles,
| then finasteride is an option. Or you can wait for more
| hair to fall out and get more hair transplanted in, which
| sounds dumb but is apparently relatively common.
| [deleted]
| naebother wrote:
| Maybe getting booted outta Paypal kick starts the old follicle
| machine.
| jjoonathan wrote:
| Last time I looked, this technology was not functional yet it
| seemed like they were trying to commercialize it in the non-
| functional state by pretending it was a trial. The hangup
| involved the step between "we inject the cultured stem cells" and
| "those cells actually grow hair." Have they overcome this
| barrier? Or is this still a "trial" that a reasonably informed
| person would expect to have an infinitesimal chance of success
| wrapped in press releases that suggest a rosier picture?
| bichiliad wrote:
| I'm overlooking the "teeth" part of this story to share a bit of
| an anecdote here. I'm a guy, and I lost my hair when I was about
| 21. I spent a while trying every medication (many of which have
| sexual health side effects), but I don't think I was ever
| actually happy until I just accepted that I was bald and that was
| just part of how I looked. Don't get me wrong -- I would love
| having hair again, but it doesn't bother me that I don't.
|
| If it helps anyone else out there: no one else thinks about your
| hair besides you. Getting rid of my anxiety around how my hair
| looked (checking it in the mirror all the time, using products to
| make it look less thin, etc) was absolutely worth giving up any
| illusion that my hair was going to stick around. Plus, it has
| made putting on sweaters so much easier, and I never have to
| worry about helmet hair.
|
| If you're reading this post with a touch of anxiety about your
| hair, just know that it's gonna be fine and you probably look
| cool as hell (albeit a bit different) with a buzz cut.
| bitwize wrote:
| When I started losing my hair I tried minoxidil, until I
| realized two things:
|
| 1) it's not very effective;
|
| 2) it is highly, _highly_ toxic to cats.
|
| I didn't have a cat at the time, but I decided that the ability
| to have a cat in my life was more important than any hair loss
| amelioration provided by minoxidil, and if I went bald then I
| went bald.
| rootusrootus wrote:
| > no one else thinks about your hair besides you
|
| To expand on that, my favorite quote (from Eleanor Roosevelt,
| who seems to have been quite quotable...):
|
| "You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if
| you realized how seldom they do."
|
| I totally agree. People are almost 100% caught up in
| themselves, and barely have time to think about their own
| family, much less friends, acquaintances, and last of all
| strangers.
| CalChris wrote:
| This reminds me of _Casablanca_ : Ugarte:
| You despise me, don't you? Rick: If I gave you any
| thought I probably would.
| Eric_WVGG wrote:
| _Mad Men_
|
| Ginsberg: I feel bad for you.
|
| Draper: I don't think about you at all.
| azinman2 wrote:
| Well of course they don't actively worry about your hair, but
| most certainly it's one of the factors on whether people find
| you attractive or not. And that can still have real
| consequences even if people aren't "worried about you."
| ben509 wrote:
| And the issue of whether people generally care misses the
| point. A man wants _her_ to find him attractive.
| smeeth wrote:
| +1, it can't be said enough.
|
| Worrying about losing your hair is a significantly worse
| condition than actually losing your hair. I wouldn't wish it on
| anyone.
| [deleted]
| hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
| > If it helps anyone else out there: no one else thinks about
| your hair besides you.
|
| I mean, kinda. Sure, nobody is probably stressing about how
| many centimeters your scalp is receding, but you can bet lots
| of people will be more attracted to someone who looks young
| with a full head of hair compared to someone who has typical
| male pattern baldness. Just google "male hair restoration
| before and after" for some examples, and tell me you don't
| think there's a stark difference to most examples.
|
| I do agree, though, fortunately it's become socially acceptable
| to shave your head and that can be seen as a sign of
| attractiveness (though I still think this cartoon is pretty
| accurate: https://i.imgur.com/IMmmP8A.gif)
| [deleted]
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| Fortunately, becoming hot is easier that reverting baldness
| :)
| pdpi wrote:
| > but you can bet lots of people will be more attracted to
| someone who looks young with a full head of hair compared to
| someone who has typical male pattern baldness.
|
| People are attracted to confidence. A person who has issues
| about self-image (baldness being one particular aspect of
| that) will always be less attractive from that angle alone.
|
| If you're bald and feel self-conscious about it making you
| unattractive, the better road to attractiveness is to stop
| being self-conscious (easier said than done), rather than
| stopping being bald (even harder to do). This is basically
| what the OP is alluding to: the solution to the "baldness
| problem" isn't treatment, but rather acceptance.
| Cthulhu_ wrote:
| I dunno man, Patrick Stewart has always been mostly bald and
| is he any less attractive for it? It has the extra added
| benefit that you can't tell someone's age, so in his case
| he's been in his 40's throughout his career.
| f6v wrote:
| You have to be attractive in the first place to be
| attractive when bald.
| matwood wrote:
| You have to be attractive in the first place. Bald, hair
| doesn't really matter. What's probably more significant
| is if people lose confidence or are self conscious about
| their baldness.
| EdwardCoffin wrote:
| Patrick Stewart touched on the topic of going bald in an
| excerpt from an interview on the BBC (Parkinson) [1]. It's
| pretty funny.
|
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOK-ZVJMaU
| Koshkin wrote:
| "Go _baldly_ where no one has gone before. "
| mmcgaha wrote:
| If I could look like Patrick Stewart or Sean Connery going
| bald would be great. Of course those guys look better than
| me even with hair so what can I expect.
| saiya-jin wrote:
| not everybody looks as him (or few other known bald
| celebrities), and not everybody has shape of the head or
| skin to look as good.
|
| But I agree once baldness progresses to be plain visible,
| the best course is to either trim to very short or shave it
| all. Can look cool with good beard, but again not everybody
| has the genes for that.
| tomca32 wrote:
| > but you can bet lots of people will be more attracted to
| someone who looks young with a full head of hair compared to
| someone who has typical male pattern baldness
|
| I think there are just as many people who are attracted to a
| guy with a shaved head.
|
| I don't have personal experiences with it, but from observing
| a couple of friends who shave their head, it doesn't seem to
| me that they are less successful sexually/romantically.
| [deleted]
| samstave wrote:
| What procedure did Elon Musk have? His hair looks great, but
| the hair he had at paypal was like cotton candy.
| jjoonathan wrote:
| Follicle transplants, the hair loss treatment that works.
| thatcat wrote:
| When he hooked up with Grimes it just kinda grew back..
| dj_mc_merlin wrote:
| Has it ever been not socially acceptable to shave your head
| as a male? I have a feeling the "shave it all off" has been a
| strategy ever since we've had razors sharp enough.
|
| edit: a comment below mentions that it is unacceptable
| nowadays in some East Asian cultures.
| Someone wrote:
| The Islamic State forbade shaving one's beard, but I don't
| think they had similar rules for shaving one's head. If
| they had, they must have made exceptions for pilgrims, as
| shaving one's head after one is part of the rituals around
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihram#Behaviour_and_cleanlin
| es...)
| ljf wrote:
| Only anecdotal, but my father always tells that the
| original skin heads when he was a young man were so
| transgressive as the hair cut was usually one of weakness.
| It was the cut of prisoners, insane asylum inmates,
| prisoners of war etc.
|
| At the time it was in no way considered manly or even
| threatening. It was truly a statement that we likely can't
| imagine now.
| SyzygistSix wrote:
| But it rapidly became the haircut of the working class,
| especially factory workers. It's really nice to have very
| short hair in dirty, greasy environments.
| hn_throwaway_99 wrote:
| It's _definitely_ more socially acceptable now than it was
| in earlier times. Do you remember the bald guy episode from
| Seinfeld? While it was not shocking that the guy had a bald
| head, it was certainly unusual enough for Jerry to remark
| "Is he from the future?"
| rgoulter wrote:
| I decided I liked a buzz-cut when I was in university. My
| mother's reaction when she saw it over a videocall was that
| I looked like a criminal.
| ddoolin wrote:
| My mom liked so-called "clean cut" guys (military
| background), so she made my brother and I buzz our hair
| growing up. Now my hair is now over a foot long and her
| reaction is that I also look like a criminal.
| the_only_law wrote:
| Heh, my father is a military man and growing up we always
| had our hair cut short. Several years ago I started
| growing my hair out and was ready for barrage of "hippie"
| jokes or whatever else would come with that.
|
| Surprisingly it never happened. In fact my parents were
| really surprised. My youngest brother (nearly 20 year age
| difference) has a very curly head full of hair and it
| turns out mine also gets very curly/could with some
| length. Never new that was in our genetics.
| aksss wrote:
| >has it ever been not socially acceptable to shave your
| head...?
|
| Yes, if you took the Nazarite oath (think Samson in the
| Bible).
| BitwiseFool wrote:
| "You can't fire me, I quit!"
| pessimizer wrote:
| Wasn't common for white guys until relatively recently. It
| was a common hacky baldness joke in the 80s and 90s to say
| "if I was a black guy, I'd shave it all off!" Probably
| increased at around the same time as the hipster beard
| thing.
| dan1234 wrote:
| As a tall, skinny white guy who also likes leather jackets,
| I fear if I shave my head I'll be lumped in with the neo
| nazi sympathisers.
| sep_field wrote:
| Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice got you covered. Just
| get some SHARPs patches on your jackets and have fun
| punching nazis :) Helps also if you get steel-toed boots.
| Was quite the thing back in the 80s punk scene.
| jacob2484 wrote:
| So you think every skinny white guy who also likes
| leather jackets is a neo nazi sympathiser? Don't
| assume/worry what others think about your look
| novok wrote:
| Your look is a message, it's something you chose and thus
| he should be aware of it.
| foolinaround wrote:
| in indian culture, one shaves the head when one is
| mourning, lost their dear ones (parents).
|
| also, there is the practice of tonsuring one's head to
| offer the hair to the gods (as a sign of humility)
|
| and, historically, losers have their heads tonsured to show
| their weakness, also a punishment for petty theft, like
| stealing cattle, etc
| valarauko wrote:
| In the Indian culture, it was also expected for the
| Priestly caste to shave their heads (with the exception
| of the shikha. Side note: when Brahmins would mourn for
| the death of their parent, they wouldn't shave the
| shikha, it would instead be left open & unknotted) -
| there's a certain traditional cultural cache in India
| with shaved heads.
| bluGill wrote:
| There are plenty of females attracted to older males. The
| reverse is not nearly as true. There is a good genetic basis
| for this: young females that breed with an old male bring in
| whatever genetics cause long life. However old females are
| unable to breed at all so males that attempt to breed with
| older females fail and thus don't pass their genes on.
|
| The above is really messy as it applies to the real world,
| but the basics are true enough.
| pen2l wrote:
| There's a running joke on the wsb subreddit about this, about
| the return that Elon saw in getting his hair fixed (I can't
| find the specific phrasing and construct of the joke at the
| moment), but anyway his transformation is fairly notable and
| there's no doubt it contributed in some part to his success:
| https://thenewdaily.com.au/wp-
| content/uploads/2017/07/elon-m...
|
| I wish it were not true, but I think it sadly is, that as
| much people would like to think appearances don't matter,
| they do. Of course that doesn't mean you should beat yourself
| over it if you were dealt a bad hand in the hair department,
| because you can do something to improve your appearances in
| general! Start with a 5x5 or similar routine, because the
| gains in your confidence and appearances aside, the gains in
| strength and health are reason enough.
| x86_64Ubuntu wrote:
| Oh dear. He does look better with hair. I'm sure it's nice
| to say "No one cares about your hairloss other than you".
| But I don't think any metric in society would back that up.
| CuriouslyC wrote:
| Being bald was good for the careers of The Rock and Bruce
| Willis, but that only holds if you're not a fit tough guy
| with the right head shape.
| novok wrote:
| That's the problem with bald, the pretty much the only
| 'stereotypically attractive' archetype you have is fit
| muscular action man.
|
| The only non-fit celeb I can really think of that might
| be known as attractive is Patrick Stewart in TNG, and I'm
| not sure if he was considered attractive vs. more
| respected role model and leader.
| matwood wrote:
| I wouldn't put Willis in the category as particularly
| muscular. He's usually cast at the every man. What he
| does is exude man in his on screen confidence.
| pdpi wrote:
| The biggest part of the transformation is his attitude
| towards it. If you don't make a big deal out of it, nobody
| else will.
|
| Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, Jony Ive are all media darlings in
| the tech industry, so clearly being bald isn't an
| impediment.
|
| If you look at the acting world, Bruce Willis, Jason
| Statham, Patrick Stewart, Vin Diesel, Dwayne Johnson all
| make it incredibly clear that baldness doesn't stop you
| from being considered a sex symbol.
| bigmattystyles wrote:
| WRT to Patrick Stewart / Picard - Roddenberry had this
| retort when asked about it by reporter about casting
| Stewart in Star Trek: TNG. "Surely by the 24th century,
| they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness."
| And Gene Roddenberry responded "No, by the 24th century,
| no one will care." Could by apocryphal, I'm too lazy to
| check. I've worried a fair bit about losing my hair and
| it use to take up a lot of head space. Since then though,
| I've acquired a chronic, mildly painful condition. I'm
| not as optimistic as Roddenberry however, I do now see
| being bald but in otherwise good health as still being
| _very_ fortunate, more than many, perhaps most. It doesn
| 't mean that we can't find ways to remedy it, but it
| helped me see it in a grander scheme. I just wear a hat
| now.
| core-questions wrote:
| Well, that list implies you have a built body so that the
| baldness is not a factor. If you're average or worse,
| it's not going to play the same way.
| slim wrote:
| a built body is an achievable target for most men
| cko wrote:
| As a (somewhat insecure) Asian guy, I have to say that
| skull shape matters. Some of us tend to have flat back of
| heads, which is less than ideal in Western beauty
| standards.
|
| In my younger years I had my head buzzed to a near monk
| length (I was pretty obsessed with Buddhism at the time)
| and it did not look right. Friends commented that I
| looked 'intense.' While perfect for the monk persona, I
| was going for the more badass tough guy look. It was a
| tough few months.
|
| Also, facial hair helps a lot, which I am unable to grow.
|
| So I look forward to hair plugs if I ever start going
| bald.
| seph-reed wrote:
| The concept of "pretty privilege" is something I'd never
| really payed much attention to throughout life. I always
| focused on hard work, kindness, sincerity, positivity, and
| openness. I hit 30 recently, and while I had a lot of
| people who value me, I didn't really feel like I was being
| pulled in so much as proving my way into society.
|
| So I started focusing on superficial stuff. Better clothes,
| better style, cologne, shit like that. I don't think these
| things alone would be enough to matter; I think it's really
| important to work on _who_ you are on the inside before
| becoming a facade.
|
| But holy fuck there's a difference. From what I can tell,
| being more or less attractive is the single biggest factor
| in how people will treat you.
|
| And from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense: good
| looking is supposed to mean good genes, and good genes are
| precious.
|
| Sorry if this is kind of a bummer thing to talk about, but
| I think the more aware of it we become as a species, the
| closer we'll get to recognizing our pre-programmed bias
| towards good looks and perhaps looking passed it to the
| actual quality of the character.
|
| Also, I'm pretty sure every girl learns this the day they
| wear makeup, and then the day they don't.
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| Not sure why this is getting down voted, there are
| definitely evolutionary advantages to looking for
| secondary and tertiary indicators of health.
| fossuser wrote:
| There's a great Sci-Fi short story by Ted Chiang called,
| "Liking What You See: A Documentary".
|
| It's about a reversible procedure that inhibits the
| ability for people to detect prettiness 'calliagnosia'.
| They talk about 'lookism'.
|
| It does an interesting job exploring what this would mean
| and the good and bad associated with it (which I think
| Ted Chiang always does a great job of).
|
| It's definitely worth reading.
| Viliam1234 wrote:
| > From what I can tell, being more or less attractive is
| the single biggest factor in how people will treat you.
|
| Sadly, this is absolutely correct. I want to say I wish
| someone told me this sooner... but they kinda _did_...
| only in hints that were easy for me to misunderstand.
| Socially dumber people, like me, need to be told things
| less ambiguously.
|
| Things like hard work, kindness, sincerity, positivity,
| openness... yes, they definitely contribute to long-term
| success and happiness. Problem is, your looks decide
| which doors will open for you. And it doesn't matter if
| hypothetically you could do a great job, if you are not
| allowed to try. On the other hand, if you get invited to
| many places, you get many opportunities to practice, so
| even if you suck at first, over time you improve.
|
| There is this thing called "halo effect", which means
| that if you are attractive, people are going to assume
| all kinds of good things about you, without any evidence,
| sometimes despite the evidence to contrary.
|
| > Also, I'm pretty sure every girl learns this the day
| they wear makeup, and then the day they don't.
|
| With makeup, it is easy to make an A/B test. I wonder if
| we could borrow an artificial body and face for a day,
| how much that would change our priorities in life.
| f6v wrote:
| Then there's Jeff who doesn't care.
| novok wrote:
| There is a lot of stuff you don't have to care about when
| your a top ten wealthiest man in the world.
| downandout wrote:
| Elon Musk is a great example of what is possible with hair
| transplants. He had severe balding at a very young age, and
| you would never know it today. I have a feeling that public
| perception of him would be quite a bit different if he
| still looked like his old self. Here is a before and
| after...the "before" image was taken in 2002:
|
| https://pagesix-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/pagesix.com/wp-
| co...
| [deleted]
| maverick2007 wrote:
| Adding my anecdote to this thread:
|
| Started noticing hair loss in my early 20s but managed to
| convince myself that it was just stress. By my mid 20s when I
| was in a very low stress position I finally concluded that it
| was just plain MPB. I continued to ignore it for a while, just
| cutting my hair a little shorter than the longer hair that I
| wore before (usually more out of laziness than anything else).
| It finally came to a head a couple of months ago when I noticed
| that I had stopped turning the lights on when I went into the
| bathroom because I didn't want to see how thin my hair looked
| that day. That day I made an appointment with my doctor and got
| a prescription for Finasteride. Since I was very afraid of the
| sexual side effects of the drug, before I started I decided to
| shave my head to confirm my suspicions that I didn't like the
| shaved look. If I hated it, I'd start the medication and deal
| with the sides. Funny thing is, I really liked it. People don't
| treat me any differently than they did before which is what I
| was afraid of. Sure, women don't come up and hit on me but they
| never did when I had longer hair either so I consider it a
| wash. And I like it more and more now that I'm hitting the gym
| and adding muscle. Bald + muscular is a great look. Shaving my
| head (down to a #1 in my case) isn't my ideal situation but the
| way I see it, MPB is a better condition to have than many, many
| other genetic conditions.
|
| If you're where I was a couple of months ago and your thinning
| hair is stressing you out, just give it a shot and shave your
| head. Best case, you like it like I do. Worst case, you hate it
| and you can see if fin would work for you.
| mc32 wrote:
| If it comforts anyone, Prince William went through the same
| anxiety and realized he was best served embracing the
| characteristic. I think that's the best approach.
|
| Unfortunately you have Hollywood and other lifestyle influence
| setting the tone for men and women. Sometimes in the guise of
| helping, they hurt people "accept being obese" for example.
| dominotw wrote:
| yes same. I accepted it and moved on in my 30s. Now i like my
| buzzed look, i think i look better than ever.
|
| I think bladness needs an equivalent of 'fat acceptance'. When
| somone is in their 20's. Its hard to accept your lower value as
| a potential mate for something that's totally out of their
| control.
| Dirlewanger wrote:
| Controlling your weight is in your control. Going bald isn't
| (at least not in the same side effect-free way that
| controlling your weight is).
| DanBC wrote:
| There's a Youtube Channel called Bald Cafe where men are
| interviewed about their hair loss, and they shave their
| heads.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/c/Baldcafe/videos
|
| It's easy to see that for some people it's a big deal, and
| it's a bit tricky for them to come to terms with.
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxZvMydPYQ
| dominotw wrote:
| > and they shave their heads.
|
| I think this a harmful trend too. Ironically, Pepetuates
| the same concept that something natural like balding is
| something to hide.
|
| Being bald without completely shaven look is a ok, normal
| and attractive too.
| dj_mc_merlin wrote:
| > Plus, it has made putting on sweaters so much easier, and I
| never have to worry about helmet hair.
|
| I had a shaved head for a while, and the freedom of not having
| strands of really strong thin material attached to the top of
| your head was amazing. It is comparable to not having to wear a
| backpack.
|
| I went back to normal hair to enjoy it while it lasts though.
| d357r0y3r wrote:
| When I was in my early 20s, I saw the writing on the wall w.r.t
| hair loss. I decided then, if I'm going to be bald, I'm at
| least going to be jacked. And so I got jacked.
|
| 10+ years later, I buzz my head with a 1 guard once every week
| or so. Hair is just a thing I don't think about. It's like
| `gofmt` or `prettier` for your head.
| cgh wrote:
| Same here, except I use a #2. Nearly every guy can control
| his build and when you are younger, you are a testosterone-
| fueled muscle building machine. Young men (and women, to be
| honest) reading this: take advantage of it.
| [deleted]
| SyzygistSix wrote:
| Yep. Fit and bald is far more attractive than a nice head of
| hair and schlubby. And by far the most important thing is to be
| happy with one's self, not based on external things.
| twiceinawhile wrote:
| > If it helps anyone else out there: no one else thinks about
| your hair besides you.
|
| People notice and care. Hair is sometimes seen as a health
| indicator and it matters to a degree in society. We've never
| had a bald president and probably never will. Look at the
| lengths Trump went to with his "hair". I doubt he would have
| been president had he been bald. The same goes for biden.
| Search for elon musk before and after hair. He wouldn't be the
| "media darling" if he looked the way he did in his paypal days.
|
| Also, it's probably easier dating or finding a mate if you were
| not bald - as a man or a woman. Consciously or unconsciously,
| many people hold negative associations when it comes to
| baldness. But it's not the end of the world and you shouldn't
| lose any sleep over it - unless you hope to be president one
| day or in a position where image matters. For the average joe,
| baldness doesn't matter much.
| throwawayboise wrote:
| Eisenhower was pretty bald.
| inglor_cz wrote:
| I am a guy from a family whose members die of old age with a
| lion's mane of a hair. So far (being 42) I am on the same path.
|
| But greying of said lion's mane can happen in several ways,
| from very charming to something that looks like a mildew
| infestation.
|
| I am not sure yet how I am going to turn out, but it is coming.
| I hope the Japanese scientists can find some stem cells for
| melanocytes as well.
|
| Edit: a funny anecdote, my first high school love is very much
| into bald guys, but somehow I got a pass.
| samstave wrote:
| A good friend of mine did what Joe Rogan did: just shave it all
| off.
|
| The funny thing is that they both said the same thing: "I was
| so worried about how my thinning hair looked that I just
| decided to shave my head, and havent looked back since"
|
| And its funny they both look great completely bald - in fact
| with Joe Rogan, he looks odd to see old pics of him with hair.
|
| I dont know if I could pull off a full bald shave because I
| have a small head and big ears :-)
| [deleted]
| ohrockhrhor wrote:
| I think this is very wrong, and almost irresponsible.
|
| Without your hair, you will earn less money. Fewer people will
| do business with you (fewer investors, fewer contracts, fewer
| business partners). You will be paid less as an employee for
| the same work. You will be passed over for leadership
| positions.
|
| Fewer people will be friends with you. People will want to
| spend less time with you. You will not be invited to the same
| or as many parties as other people. Strangers on the street
| will look at you with pity and disgust. Children will shame
| you.
|
| No matter how inherently talented, intelligent, and hard-
| working you are, this will seep into every aspect of your life
| and rob you of success. It is a crippling disfigurement.
|
| And so, there are entire sections of the female population that
| won't touch you with a ten foot pole. Considering how painfully
| this impacts a persons life, they are right to do so. It is a
| travesty of evolution that male-pattern baldness exists.
|
| There currently isn't a way to re-grow lost hair. You have to
| do everything you can to keep what you have. The medication you
| mention, finasteride, might have sexual side effects, but for
| most people it doesn't. It's almost irrelevant if it does,
| because you won't have much of a sex life if you lose your
| hair. I wish I could have afforded it when I was young. If you
| can, go see a doctor at the first sign of hair loss. It's all
| you can do.
|
| If I hadn't lost my hair in my early twenties, I know that I
| would have been able to find romantic love, and have a better
| career. It is the single worst thing that has ever happened to
| me, and not a day goes by that I don't consider killing myself.
| It has made me less than human.
| voisin wrote:
| This is the most absurdly ludicrous thing I have ever read,
| and I am not exaggerating for effect. I honestly cannot tell
| if this is a bad joke or sarcasm, because I can hardly
| imagine a human being who could believe such nonsense. If you
| experience any of this nonsense first hand it is because you
| believe it to be true and have created a self fulfilling
| prophecy. You need to change your perspective. Go see a
| therapist and work out your issues.
|
| I suggest reading some Gabor Mate and work on resolving
| unresolved childhood trauma (the only thing I imagine to be
| strong enough to create such self-limiting beliefs - assuming
| of course your post is not just a failed attempt as sarcasm).
| mpfundstein wrote:
| you sir, should get checked out. thoroughly
| sonofhans wrote:
| You sound really upset. I don't blame you. I started going
| bald in my 20s. It was heartbreaking to cut off my long hair.
| I truly loved it and felt strongly that it was part of my
| identity. The alternative, I thought, was ridiculous -- a
| bald man with a pony tail.
|
| Now I'm nearly 50, and if I could grow my hair back, I
| wouldn't. I've been shaving with a trimmer once a week for 15
| years now, and I adore it. It's quick and easy. My hair is
| predictable and zero-maintenance. I think I still look pretty
| cool.
|
| Professionally I've never felt the lack. When I leave one
| company I quickly have offers piling up for new gigs. I have
| a family now, but (back when it was ok to be out in public)
| women still hit on me.
|
| Consider that no matter what your qualities, some people and
| contexts will ostracize you for them. You must instead find
| places and people that are acceptable to you, and accepting
| of you. There's no magic here, just work and perseverance.
|
| There are plenty of worse situations: being Black is still no
| picnic in the US, and plenty of other places. Being a woman
| is still very challenging in many places. Being poor (like,
| too poor to own a computer) is still the worst.
|
| If you'll forgive me for being blunt: if going bald is really
| the worst thing that's happened to you, consider yourself to
| be very, very fortunate. There's no reason to be suicidal
| about it. Find a therapist. Only you can improve your life,
| hair or no hair.
| Majestic121 wrote:
| While baldness definitely has a negative impact on most men
| life, it's merely a factor among many other things that can
| actually be controlled, and it's not life shattering on its
| own.
|
| If that's actually how you feel, it's pretty serious and I
| urge you to try and search for help in your environment :
| life does not have to be this bad, and it can get better.
| decafninja wrote:
| I think there are cultural (racial?) aspects too.
|
| I'm East Asian. Hair loss at a young age and shaving your head
| is still not considered very acceptable or attractive in any
| way in East Asian cultures, short of being a monk. There are a
| tiny handful of exceptions - but that's just that - exceptions.
|
| If you're pushing 50? 60? etc. sure it happens to many so not a
| big deal - but even then I think more East Asian men choose
| wigs, hair transplants, or even au natural horseshoe rather
| than shave. If you're 20? 30? Or even 40? It's terrible - dare
| I say more so than men of other races/cultures.
|
| As someone in his thirties that is starting to lose hair, I
| envy men of other races/cultures where shaving your head is
| considered an acceptable option.
| x86_64Ubuntu wrote:
| I never thought of this till you mentioned it, like, never.
| But you are right, I can't think of any high-visibility East
| Asian person with a bald head that isn't a monk. Xi Jianping,
| Mao, Psy, Jack Ma and pretty much every prominent East-Asian
| has hair. I guess with me coming from the black community,
| we've always had Michael Jordan, Isaac Hayes and Samuel L.
| Jackson as the standard-bearers of baldness.
| slim wrote:
| Mao?
| x86_64Ubuntu wrote:
| Whoops.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#/media/File:Mao_
| Zed...
| fossuser wrote:
| > "If it helps anyone else out there: no one else thinks about
| your hair besides you."
|
| I had a girl cancel a date when she learned I was balding (she
| explicitly told a friend this) so there's a reason men feel bad
| about it.
|
| That said, shaving your head and getting on with your life is
| the right approach and has a lot of other benefits anyway.
|
| Elon did something different, but for most people going bald,
| shaving your head is the right move. It can just be hard to
| know when and most people wait too long (plus it's hard to deal
| with the social stuff around a dramatic change like that).
| kareemm wrote:
| > I had a girl cancel a date when she learned I was balding
| (she explicitly told a friend this) so there's a reason men
| feel bad about it.
|
| Dodged a bullet there!
| snshn wrote:
| Well done, 47.
| fossuser wrote:
| Sure, in that specific case I'd agree it's a flag.
|
| But there's a general truth to sexual attractiveness in
| there, and it's better to accept the reality as it is and
| adapt.
|
| Sometimes it's better to just learn the dance:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX40mBb8bkU
|
| Remember what the dormouse said: Shave your head (or
| something like that)
| voisin wrote:
| > there's a general truth to sexual attractiveness in
| there
|
| Even a cursory consideration of the numerous bald
| celebrities should be sufficient to disabuse yourself of
| this notion. There is no general truth to sexual
| attractiveness as related to hair, or height, or skin
| colour, or weight, or...
| fossuser wrote:
| This is bad reasoning.
|
| The existence of balding celebrities does not mean that
| balding has no affect on sexual attractiveness.
|
| A lot of celebrities are famous for reasons other than
| attractiveness.
|
| Balding and bald are also different (which was part of my
| point).
|
| > "There is no general truth to sexual attractiveness as
| related to hair, or height, or skin colour, or weight,
| or..."
|
| This is just straight false. There are always varied
| preferences and outliers, but there are general trends
| too. You ignore them at your own peril.
| da_big_ghey wrote:
| Danny DeVito is a celebrity. This does not mean that he
| is attractive.
| kareemm wrote:
| The general point is that confidence is more attractive
| than baldness or any of 100 other kinds of uncontrollable
| issues that impact physical appearance.
|
| When you become comfortable and confident with who you
| are and recognize what you can't change, you attract the
| same.
| fossuser wrote:
| I agree that confidence is important.
|
| The other stuff does matter too though. It's better to
| recognize that rather than pretend it's all confidence.
|
| The girl that canceled the date didn't do so because I
| wasn't confident, she did so because she saw a picture of
| me with thinning hair on FB. Another canceled when she
| found out I was 3 months younger than her. People are
| picky.
|
| Thankfully I've since met someone really great and I'm
| now engaged/out of the game. I'm glad.
| ben509 wrote:
| Yup. There are no bad reasons to not pursue a
| relationship, because anything that avoids heartache and
| misery is implicitly a good reason.
| _448 wrote:
| My maths teacher once joked that he finds it difficult every
| morning to wash his face as he don't know where his face starts
| and ends :D
| powvans wrote:
| My dad went bald very early and I was always afraid of it. I've
| had the typical progression of male pattern baldness going for
| the last 20 years. I'd look really weird in my 40's if I had
| the same hairline as my 20 year old self. Over the years I've
| gotten used to it and consider it not a big deal.
|
| On the other hand, now that my dad is in his late 70's he has
| melanoma all over his chrome dome. He has to get things burned,
| frozen, and lasered off every couple of months. It's ironic
| that after accepting the vanity aspects of baldness and no
| longer caring, I see that there are much worse things.
|
| If you're bald or balding, wear a hat! Wear sunscreen! The
| spray on stuff is sort of gross but it can get to your scalp
| where the hair is thin and skin is exposed.
|
| If a stem cell treatment for baldness were affordable, I would
| consider it. 80% for the UV protection and 20% for the vanity.
| ido wrote:
| Going off topic, but that's one of the reasons I really
| appreciate moving to Berlin (UV index from 2 to 5) from Tel
| Aviv (UV index 3 to 11). I haven't burned even once since
| leaving Israel in 2005.
| powvans wrote:
| Latitude matters! I grew up outside of Atlanta, which is
| 33N and similar to Tel Aviv at 32N. My dad's Irish skin
| probably faired much worse here than it would have at 53N
| (Ireland, Berlin).
|
| I don't burn too easily in the sun here and it's easy to
| avoid in prolonged exposure with a little sunscreen. I was
| shocked the first time I ventured close to the equator. In
| southern Mexico (15N) and Costa Rica (10N) my skin burns in
| about 10 minutes without sunscreen.
| agumonkey wrote:
| I vaguely knew a dude who got bald at 20. Beside the slightly
| strange feeling in the early days it really never made a
| difference in how we were with him. But he was a cool guy so
| that helped.
| throwawayboise wrote:
| I knew a guy who was losing his hair in high school. He
| always had girls around.
| Aloha wrote:
| I started going gray in my mid 20's, and I made a similar
| choice. I just accepted that this is how its gonna be, and came
| to terms with it, not that I dont go out of my way to minimize
| it now that I'm in my late 30's thru hair cuts. But I dont
| bother with dye or any of that.
| da_big_ghey wrote:
| I went gray young. The downside is that most younger women
| turned away and would no longer approach. They would also not
| respond very well if I did. And I did not want to date a
| person 15 years my senior, so it became hard.
| kvgr wrote:
| Was shaving my head the best decision? Of course. I still had
| some hair in front and a lots on the sides. But top of my head
| is almost bald and my hair is quite thin. So I would always
| have bad hair and would fix it in the bathroom constantly.
| Wearing hat was a problem. Going on a holiday to tropical
| country - bad hair every day. I shaved that thing after
| returning from 4 weeks in Indonesia. I just had enough of it. A
| lot of women complimented my looks. My wife got used to it I
| think. But if there was a way of making my hair the way it was
| when I was young without side effects and transplants? I would
| probably try it. But until that day comes, I am shaving my head
| and don't care about anybody.
| airhead969 wrote:
| One of my female roommates had a thing for chrome. I don't
| think she's the only female to have that interest. Shave it all
| off and rock it. :)
| matwood wrote:
| I agree. My dad and his brothers were all bald fairly young, so
| I accepted that it would happen. I didn't really start losing
| my hair until my 30s, and for me at least, I just buzzed cut my
| hair and went on with my life. My wife, who I met after it was
| clear my hair was never coming back, asked me if I missed my
| hair. I pulled out some old pics of my late teens/20s where it
| was all the same length past my shoulders and her response was
| 'thank god you went bald'...
| Waterluvian wrote:
| There are so many good bald looks these days. Even just shaving
| your entire dome looks pretty awesome.
|
| I've never had a "hah that guy's bald" moment. But I've had
| many, "damn, kinda jealous of that style..." moments.
| 0xffff2 wrote:
| As a guy who's been shaving my head since I realized my hair
| wasn't getting any thicker when I was ~20 (13 years ago), I'm
| curious what other "bald looks" there are besides shaving the
| whole thing?
| moosebear847 wrote:
| Muscles underneath. Lots, of muscles.
| Koshkin wrote:
| Nah, it's 1) age and 2) height - none of which you can
| control.
| jjoonathan wrote:
| The correct haircut for a bald man is muscles.
| voisin wrote:
| The correct haircut for any man is muscles.
| CodeGlitch wrote:
| This. Muscle plus personality is 100x more attractive
| than hair. 2 things you can control (generally)
| medium_burrito wrote:
| Yeah, that's pretty much it. Tattoos also, as that
| complements the look.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| There's the Jason Statham look where he doesn't shave it
| all and blends it into his beard and it looks great.
|
| But, yeah, I didn't word that well. Most good bald looks
| involve what you do with your facial hair.
| abraxas wrote:
| Lots of people have anxiety about their head shape. I know I
| do. I'm not looking forward to the time when I have to buzz cut
| my hair. There is definitely a lot of flatness on the back of
| my head.
| cassianoleal wrote:
| I still remember the day I saw a quote on Twitter from an
| account that I think was called something like @PicardQuotes.
| Their tweets were usually little gems that could have been said
| by Capt. Picard. This particular quote was simply:
|
| "Bald is better than balding."
|
| When I realised there was no turning back, and not having hair
| would be a lot better than fighting against the inevitable, I
| started wearing my bare scalp with pride.
|
| It's a great look.
|
| It's also a lot easier to maintain.
|
| Don't get me wrong, if I weren't balding I wouldn't have done
| this and that would have been fine. That doesn't change the
| fact that this is also fine.
| thesuitonym wrote:
| I love the way I look bald, but I don't have the wherewithall
| to keep my skin smooth. It's so much more work than just
| keeping a decent haircut.
| yuriko_boyko wrote:
| Random loading screen tip: Worrying about hairloss makes it worse
| if you're balding.
| purple_ferret wrote:
| Anyone who looks at Elon Musk can tell hair can always come back
| if you have enough $$$
| agumonkey wrote:
| I wonder if he thinks about reusable hair buds in his sleep.
| CptJamesCook wrote:
| A hair transplant isn't extremely expensive, and price is
| definitely not the limiting factor on the result you can
| achieve. They cost around $10k on the low end and $35k from the
| most expensive doctors in the USA.
|
| Elon was lucky to have great donor sites for the hair. Likely
| also started using finasteride, minoxidil, and a DHT inhibiting
| shampoo right around when he got the transplant if not a couple
| years before.
|
| I've had 3 hair transplants myself, and have spent enough time
| in and around hair transplant surgeon's offices to know that
| the vast majority of cases don't turn out as well as Elon's.
| Most people just don't have enough hair.
| voisin wrote:
| I posted this above but then saw you have direct experience
| and thought I'd ask: am I correct in understanding that
| transplanted hair is done in random patterns but not at
| random angles, and so the hair tends to look "stiff" and
| unnatural, like it has hair spray in it?
| Koshkin wrote:
| There's no point trying to look "younger" than you actually are.
| _They_ will know, no matter what.
| jchw wrote:
| For users hit by anti-adblock: https://archive.is/dOgGD
| flatiron wrote:
| Thanks. PiHole + mobile must have blocked me
| f6v wrote:
| I'm losing hair and can't grow a beard(I can grow muscle, and
| testosterone is fine). So viking look isn't an option. But
| anything related to this research isn't hitting clinic in the
| next decades.
|
| We came a long way when it comes to reprogramming cells in-vitro,
| and I'm sure further research will allow inducing growth on
| demand. However, it'd be hard to guarantee the growth won't
| result in cancer somewhere down the line. Unfortunately, for all
| of us who lose teeth the improvements in implantation technology
| are the only hope.
| airhead969 wrote:
| Can we get a cure for graying hair too (restore melanocyte
| function)? ;)
|
| Btw, dry ice can be used to make patches of hair permanently
| white (selectively kills melanocytes).
| gns24 wrote:
| My hair recently went significantly less white - a significant
| fraction of the hairs that I vainly plucked because they were
| white at the tips were dark at the roots. It correlated with a
| significant change in diet to eat more healthily, but I've
| noticed it happen before so it may also be seasonal or related
| to some other factor such as how stressed I am or how well I am
| sleeping.
| sandworm101 wrote:
| This is called "cold branding" and is used to brand/tag furred
| animals like wild horses. It is more humane than hot irons and
| the brands are easier to read at distance, but it isn't exactly
| pain-free.
| dj_mc_merlin wrote:
| Excuse me for the slight off-topic, but in regards to hair: has
| anyone noticed that people are shaving their heads randomly more
| during the pandemic? Maybe just boredom. Or a desire to self-
| actualize during the lockdown. What a weird way for humanity to
| react to a crisis. I did it too.
| superbcarrot wrote:
| It's a mix of people having to cut their own hair for the first
| time and people who wondered what it would look like to shave
| it being able to do so with lower social risk during the
| pandemic.
| [deleted]
| JMTQp8lwXL wrote:
| Are we counting buzz cuts here? I did it very short, but not
| fully shaved. Prior to the pandemic, my last buzz cut was 15+
| years prior.
| xtracto wrote:
| I think the reason is quite simple (it was for me): The
| alternatives are to let your hair grow wild, go to the barber
| and risk getting COVID, or have someone in your family trim it
| with the risk of looking terrible.
| disgruntledphd2 wrote:
| Alternatively, plan ahead and marry a hairdresser ;)
| throwawayboise wrote:
| Yep I always just went to a walk-in barber shop. Now they are
| appointment only and I just started using a clipper. In 5
| minutes I am done, $25 still in my pocket, and don't have to
| leave the house. I am probalby never using a barber shop
| again.
| LockAndLol wrote:
| Are the barber shops allowed to operate where those people
| live? Are people allowed to travel all the way to whoever used
| to cut their hair?
|
| Shaving it all away is easy.
| [deleted]
| Smithalicious wrote:
| Isn't it simply that it's impossible to get a haircut, and
| shaving it off is something you can do by yourself easily?
| Moncefmd wrote:
| For me (and the vast majority of people I know that did it) it
| was just to avoid going to a real barbershop.
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