[HN Gopher] Standard ECMA-4 Flow Charts, 2nd Edition (1966) [pdf]
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       Standard ECMA-4 Flow Charts, 2nd Edition (1966) [pdf]
        
       Author : ingve
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2021-02-23 14:09 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.ecma-international.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.ecma-international.org)
        
       | dragontamer wrote:
       | I still find myself diagraming some general code bits at an
       | extremely high-level, to help guide programming and communicate
       | with team members.
       | 
       | I don't think I've ever formally used the "standard EMCA Flow
       | Chart" notation, but I can see the benefits in standardizing upon
       | forms (diamond shape for branches, "page" symbols, "disk"
       | symbols, etc. etc.)
        
         | JNRowe wrote:
         | Do you have other style standards for whiteboards and such?
         | Perhaps it is the industry I'm in, but the notation in the
         | referenced doc feels super common even if the standard name
         | might not be. I'm thinking about whiteboard scrawls, project
         | requirements, ASCII abominations in email, etc.
        
           | dragontamer wrote:
           | UML was all about that. I find myself doing sequence diagrams
           | very often. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_diagram)
           | 
           | Overall, UML was over-engineered and too complicated for most
           | people to learn. Nonetheless, the various diagram-styles are
           | great for communication and white-boarding purposes. https://
           | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Modeling_Language#Diag...
        
             | buescher wrote:
             | UML statecharts are OK too.
             | 
             | The structure diagrams, much less so, and I still think
             | "really?" whenever I see a use case diagram. Adding a stick
             | figure and lines and circles to something that should be
             | expressed in sentences and paragraphs is just absurd.
        
             | JNRowe wrote:
             | Ah, I see. That speaks to why I believe flowchart
             | vocabulary is so common around me. I'm used to working in
             | teams where UML would be largely unknown, whereas the
             | flowchart(or basic BPMN1) spans the non-compsci folk too.
             | 
             | 1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Process_Model_an
             | d_N...
        
       | WalterGR wrote:
       | (1966)
        
       | jnwatson wrote:
       | They still teach these utterly useless charts in secondary school
       | here in the US. Their value was eliminated with the invention of
       | structured programming.
        
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