[HN Gopher] Practical typewriting: By the all-finger method (1894)
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       Practical typewriting: By the all-finger method (1894)
        
       Author : jesperlang
       Score  : 63 points
       Date   : 2021-02-23 13:02 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | Legion wrote:
       | Mavis Beacon early access release.
        
       | melling wrote:
       | Will we still be using hardware keyboards 73 years from now?
        
         | javajosh wrote:
         | Yes. I think it will always be useful to have a method of
         | precise, non-verbal communication produced by the rapid trigger
         | of physical switches in a particular order. The physicality of
         | the switches is actually quite important to this behavior. So
         | as long as we need to type, I would expect hardware keyboards
         | to be desirable.
         | 
         | We may not need to type, however. We might dictate or think our
         | words; however when absolute precision is required, I'm pretty
         | sure a text-level voice interface is always going to be pretty
         | tough to do well.
        
         | bentcorner wrote:
         | I think we'll still be using physical buttons/switches 73 years
         | from now, and qwerty keyboards will still exist. The qwerty
         | layout will definitely be around. Hardware keyboards will be a
         | niche compared to all the other kinds of input types we'll have
         | in the future. I'd like to say that hardware keyboards will be
         | the domain of knowledge work but 73 years is a long time.
        
       | jesperlang wrote:
       | there is an interesting a strategy on page 23 where they suggest
       | shifting the entire hand when typing TGB/YHN rather than
       | stretching. Does anyone do that today?
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       | I just tried a bit of typing where I shift the entire hand for
       | appropiate keys rather than stretching my fingers and although it
       | is a very unusual feeling I must admit it is quite a bit more
       | comfortable. The fingers stay curled rather than being stretched
       | out. Did I just get an epiphany from typewriting tutorial written
       | in 1894??
        
         | hojjat12000 wrote:
         | I suspect this would significantly lower the typing speed and
         | also accuracy (as you have to search for FJ keys to orient
         | yourself again).
        
       | fireeyed wrote:
       | page 13
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       | > _and brain and heart throb with sympathetic zeal when fingers
       | begin their saltatory movements_
       | 
       | Rings true to this day with the joy of using my mechanical
       | keyboard. Nothing like tactile and sensory feedback.
        
       | pnut wrote:
       | There's some interesting ascii art sprinkled throughout that
       | book, for instance
       | https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t0vq3q...
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       | https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t0vq3q...
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       | and most amazingly
       | https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t0vq3q...
        
         | janekm wrote:
         | Also amazingly on page 158 shows the same ergonomic typing
         | position still recommended (and generally disregarded) today!
        
       | tsm wrote:
       | Interesting that he teaches putting fingers on the top row, not
       | the home row.
       | 
       | I'd also never heard that the ring finger, "anatomically
       | considered, is different from the others" and that pianists had
       | elective surgery ("double tenotomy") "to free the finger from the
       | impediment to action". Anyone know more about that?
        
         | dbatten wrote:
         | Hold your hand up in front of your face, and try to stick each
         | finger up, in turn, starting with the index finger. You'll find
         | that you can easily extend or stick up each finger except for
         | the ring finger, which will experience a lot of tension. The
         | ring finger can only be moved up fully and easily if the middle
         | finger is moved up with it.
         | 
         | I am a classically trained pianist, but I've never heard of
         | anyone having surgery to free up their ring finger. Doesn't
         | mean it hasn't happened, though.
        
         | genedan wrote:
         | There is a rumor that Schumman ruined his hand by getting
         | surgery to free up his tendons but there doesn't seem to be any
         | proof of that.
        
           | CliffStoll wrote:
           | From the NY Times of 1885, October 24: There is no saying to
           | what extent martyrdom in the cause of art will go. It has
           | just been discovered that nature, when designing the human
           | hand, forgot to make allowances for the invention of the
           | pianoforte, and that, consequently, all who are anxious to
           | excel on that instrument must undergo an operation known as
           | digital tenor-my, or the severance of the tendons which
           | prevent the fingers from being stretched very far apart from
           | one another. Doctors have, naturally enough, expressed their
           | approval of this proceeding, considerately adding that there
           | is certainly some chance of the wound thus inflicted not
           | healing by first intention, and therefore patients should be
           | warned of the risk they undergo previous to the operation.
           | This is, perhaps, not quite so bad as putting out a horse's
           | eyes in order that he may pump up water properly, but it is a
           | step in the same direction. and it is scarely to be expected
           | that in these days of infant prodigies such a royal road to
           | success will be confined to those who are old enough to fully
           | understand the steps they are taking.
        
       | dukeofdoom wrote:
       | Page 7 has a very cool diagram of a typewriter
        
       | KineticLensman wrote:
       | On page 29 the author says that you should use three spaces after
       | a full stop, 'for the customary space between sentences'. I
       | wonder if number of spaces was as contentious then as it is now?
        
         | chrisfinazzo wrote:
         | It's certainly an interesting thought. I suspect that if he's
         | typing in a fixed width font, anything which allows more space
         | between sentences was not just expected, but a practical
         | requirement.
         | 
         | These days, it's not really a relevant concern.
        
           | KineticLensman wrote:
           | > if he's typing in a fixed width font
           | 
           | On a typewriter in the 1890s, its definitely fixed font.
        
             | chrisfinazzo wrote:
             | -\\_(tsu)_/-
        
       | cafard wrote:
       | Somewhat after this, probably about 1915, my grandfather learned
       | to type. My father said that he was quite quick, but typed with
       | three fingers. Did he learn that way, or was it his own quirk? I
       | can't say.
        
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