[HN Gopher] Super fast super property access
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       Super fast super property access
        
       Author : theBashShell
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2021-02-18 18:16 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (v8.dev)
 (TXT) w3m dump (v8.dev)
        
       | ecmascript wrote:
       | Nice! Good job people working on V8!
        
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       | harikb wrote:
       | We have to give credit to Google for funding amazing performance
       | work with Chromium/v8 as well as things like project zero.
       | 
       | v8 Sandboxes, isolates - powers many edge worker models like
       | those at Cloudflare, Fastly, and even entire node.js ecosystem
       | 
       | Project zero - see recent posts of securing non-google software,
       | including past reports about iPhone bugs.
       | 
       | I just can't understand the hate they get in other fronts.
        
         | lrossi wrote:
         | We're talking about corporations of the size of small cities.
         | There are going to be some amazing people in there, but some
         | that you don't like as well. Both groups will stand out. So
         | it's normal to hear apparently conflicting news about the org
         | as a whole.
        
         | infogulch wrote:
         | > I just can't understand the hate they get in other fronts.
         | 
         | It's not incongruous to belive both: 1. Google is doing
         | important and valuable work, 2. Google is doing other things
         | that are bad and they should stop.
         | 
         | The whole idea that you can simply label some entity (human,
         | company, anything) as "purely good" or "purely evil" is wrong
         | and dangerous. You must _qualify_ the scope of good and bad,
         | and _discriminate_ between which behaviors fall into each
         | category. This is the major failure in the idea of cancel
         | culture.
        
         | user982 wrote:
         | _> I just can 't understand the hate they get in other fronts._
         | 
         | Other fronts are other fronts than the good works you listed.
        
         | simion314 wrote:
         | >I just can't understand the hate they get in other fronts.
         | 
         | One recent Google achievement that it is not talked about that
         | much, Google Maps, Google offered it for free, killed all the
         | other companies that offered similar services for money and now
         | Google maps is also paid. Some people don't like when giants
         | use their profits from a market to offer free stuff in other
         | markets and kill good paid or free products.
        
           | harikb wrote:
           | Freemium models as well as services being in free to get
           | market share is also a model other companies have also done
           | in the past. Granted this is something that should be
           | slightly regulated. Companies must be forced to give N months
           | notice for pricing changes, particularly those that can also
           | be classified as utilities.
           | 
           | About the actual method of pricing though, one needs to
           | compare to the likes of Oracle - where they charge based on
           | CPU cores that you are using (where it is entirely based on
           | how much can they extract out of a company). Or let us take
           | the case of your favorite TV/Phone company wanting more $$
           | for an extra extension in your house. In those days, I would
           | have never imaged that Netflix or Youtube additional
           | "profiles" would be free.
        
           | magicalist wrote:
           | > _Google offered it for free, killed all the other companies
           | that offered similar services for money and now Google maps
           | is also paid_
           | 
           | There weren't really similar services when it launched and
           | there were far more mapping services/APIs both before and
           | after the rate hike, so...
           | 
           | The real problem is people based businesses on the rates
           | offered and then they were drastically increased. The maps
           | market is doing fine.
        
         | tux3 wrote:
         | I'm super confused by your comment! I don't believe that good
         | contributions in one area absolves someone's bad behavior in
         | other fronts.
         | 
         | You're not supposed to buy goodwill.
        
         | nine_k wrote:
         | A company the size of Google should not be seen as a single
         | homogeneous entity.
         | 
         | Some departments of it do wonderful, stellar work and give it
         | away as open source. Other parts do so-so work. Yet other parts
         | do something which is seen by many as nefarious. You can often
         | see the whole spectrum represented in one major product, such
         | as Chrome or Android.
         | 
         | This is why seeing entire Google (or FB, or MS, or even Oracle)
         | as uniformly "good" or "evil" is a dangerous simplification.
         | OTOH knowing their corporate policies from prior experience,
         | one can presume how "good" or "evil" an outcome is more
         | _probable_ in some new, unknown case. Known cases, such as V8,
         | can completely contradict the common perception.
        
         | topspin wrote:
         | > I just can't understand the hate they get in other fronts.
         | 
         | It's easy to understand. Great technical work and products
         | don't bestow sainthood.
        
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