[HN Gopher] Cereals, feasts and monuments at Gobekli Tepe (2019)
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       Cereals, feasts and monuments at Gobekli Tepe (2019)
        
       Author : benbreen
       Score  : 37 points
       Date   : 2021-02-14 04:29 UTC (18 hours ago)
        
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       | autokad wrote:
       | its probably not a coincidence this is only 25 miles away form
       | gobekli tepe:
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaca_Da%C4%9F?fbclid=IwAR1...
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       | "n 6 March 2006 Der Spiegel reported that the Max Planck
       | Institute for Plant Breeding Research in Cologne[4] had
       | discovered that the genetically common ancestor of 68
       | contemporary types of cereal still grows as a wild plant on the
       | slopes of Mount Karaca (Karacadag).[5] The results strongly
       | suggest that slopes of Karaca Dag provided the site for the first
       | domestication of einkorn wheat approximately 9,000 years ago."
        
       | ncmncm wrote:
       | The greatest mystery of the development of agriculture and
       | organized building is why it happened so _late_. It appears to
       | have begun spontaneously at distant, disconnected centers (South
       | America and Turkey /Palestine) almost as soon as the sea level
       | rose, suggesting it only needed the right conditions to flower.
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       | Earlier ice ages made life in higher latitudes difficult, but the
       | tropics were never cold. We find no hint that the developments we
       | know of were products of earlier development--aside from the
       | decidedly mature stone carving at Gobekli Tepe, which has no
       | _known_ antecedents, although they must exist somewhere.
       | 
       | The unique event was the Younger Dryas cold spell, with its very
       | sharp rises in ocean level at onset and ever after. How that
       | provoked development is a matter of conjecture, but we know that
       | many people must have been displaced by rising water, which would
       | have forced openness to other changes as a matter of survival.
        
         | trianglem wrote:
         | The tropics were heavily forested and it wasn't really until
         | you got to temperate regions that arable land that was
         | relatively clear appeared.
        
       | adictator wrote:
       | There is evidence of the integration of cereals and agriculture
       | being as early as 40,000 BCE (before common era). This is through
       | scriptural evidence in the Indian scripts of Sun sciences and
       | agricultural patterns "Surya Siddhanta".
       | 
       | So the dates of 12000 BCE are hardly ancient from that
       | perspective.
       | 
       | Also, I encourage scientific articles to refrain from using the
       | religious term BC (before Christ), instead use BCE as above.
       | Using BC indicates narrow mindedness and a distinct parochial
       | narrative that could have swayed the article, when we know it may
       | not have.
        
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