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Show HN: Privacy-first home security on mobile with smart alerts
Author : Huongngtm
Score : 44 points
Date : 2021-02-13 14:28 UTC (8 hours ago)
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| Gys wrote:
| Looking at your website this seems well done.
|
| > require device with iOS 14.1 or later
|
| This means an iPhone 6S or newer. Not often an unused device, I
| think ;-) I have a 6 that I use for tests, but otherwise I could
| get good money even for that one.
| samstave wrote:
| I have been on 6S+ for YEARS - and have no desire to upgrade
| due to, I believe, this is the last iPhone before facial
| recognition - which I DO NOT WANT.
|
| ---
|
| We bought a house recently and it came with a Cobra 8-camera
| security system - which comes from Harbor Freight (inherited -
| I didnt install it) -- but its remote mobile app is some shady
| 3rd party app from China - and it rarely works, but I am
| convinced it allows for backdoor access by the dev... so I
| don't use it...
|
| Is there any way to use this with the cameras I already have
| installed (inherited) with this app?
| wp381640 wrote:
| Your upgrade path would be the new SE, which is fingerprint
| and not faceID and has the A11 processor
|
| I still use a 6S as a burner and have another for tests,
| they're a great device
| taxidump wrote:
| If your cameras are IP and not coax you can just run a NVR
| locally. If they are coax then another dvr would work. Blue
| Iris is great for home use as a windows NVR server.
| sloshnmosh wrote:
| There is a similar app for Android called Haven that can use TOR
| to access remotely.
|
| https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/turn-your-old-android-phone-...
| eat_veggies wrote:
| For Android, there's a project called Haven [1] made by Edward
| Snowden. It doesn't use fancy AI, but it does monitor the camera,
| mic, and other sensors for changes, and sends notifications via
| Signal.
|
| [1] https://guardianproject.github.io/haven/
| 1MachineElf wrote:
| Smartphones in the 21st century have become surveillance
| devices for unaccountable corporations, and governments by
| extension. It's cathartic to see that capability being put into
| the common individual's hands.
| franky47 wrote:
| Thank you, I've been looking for a privacy-first baby monitor
| app for Android, and it looks like Haven was inadvertently made
| into one of the best options [1].
|
| [1] https://guardianproject.info/2017/12/22/haven-building-
| the-m...
| zigzaggy wrote:
| Is this always on? Or event triggered?
|
| I have a use case and an iPhone 7 that stopped reading SIM cards.
| But I wont have a cord long enough to keep it plugged in all the
| time. And the battery doesn't hold a charge very long...
| anh_n wrote:
| You need to plug it to a power source because the AI algorithms
| run on-device require energy.
| devwastaken wrote:
| In this day and age with all sorts of different cameras we also
| need a better NVR system to be doing continual recording and
| accurate away from home motion alerts. Perhaps such a thing could
| be shoved into a raspberry pi 4.
|
| The current state of consumer cameras are either spend $300 for
| an indoor one that's "cloud enabled". Or $100 for a bullet that
| you need an NVR to have effective.
| ed25519FUUU wrote:
| I use Shinobi, which works okay. You can run a modest system on
| a raspberry pi but really needs something with hardware
| accelerated h264 such as an Intel CPU or geforce card.
|
| https://shinobi.video/
| minitoar wrote:
| Totally agree. Sadly, outdoor pi cams are not cheap. In the
| meantime I think Ubiquiti might be the best option.
| taxidump wrote:
| I can't recommend them anymore. Hikvision cameras with a
| Synology NAS is far better in every way.
|
| Ubiquiti cameras are way overpriced. The NVR has no real
| advanced functions. And their small indoor cameras are wifi
| only but require POE to power up. Everytime a power interrupt
| happens the wifi cams don't reconnect and start broadcasting
| their setup ssid and have to be manually reconnected. Their
| awesome tech support has turned into absolute garbage and can
| have hours long queues to only have an inexperienced person
| tell you they will follow up with an email. I was once a fan,
| but now will not install anymore of their equipment.
| Black101 wrote:
| "No footage is sent to any server."
|
| Hopefully, it can be sent to my own server for backup.
| anh_n wrote:
| You can optionally turn on iCloud synchronization, then videos
| will be uploaded to your iCloud account.
| lazzurs wrote:
| Isn't this just exactly what Eufy does?
| CapitalistCartr wrote:
| I'd like the best of both Worlds, remote access to my (as yet
| hypothetical) cameras while being secure from others. Plus being
| wireless, with decent encryption. It seems reasonable, yet
| everything I've looked at is a joke.
| paulryanrogers wrote:
| Maybe take a look at RTP cameras on a no-Internet network with
| Shinobi for remote control and monitoring.
|
| https://moeiscool.github.io/Shinobi/
| Huongngtm wrote:
| This app lets you turn your unused phone into a security camera.
| It has AI event detection (person, face, animal) and smart
| alerts, but the smart functionality runs offline. No footage is
| sent to our server. Actually we don't have a server. You don't
| need to sign up or create a profile. Notification is sent through
| Apple's server (we currently have only iOS app).
|
| We are doing beta program (free). We'd love to hear your
| feedback, and especially learn about your use case.
| user568439 wrote:
| I would give it a try if there was an Android version. I don't
| have an unused iPhone, basically because their value in the
| second hand market makes it worth to sell it insted of keeping
| it.
| anh_n wrote:
| An Android version is also planned.
| bartvk wrote:
| You say "unused phone" but the minimum iOS version is 14.1. As
| a comparison, I think apps like Baby Monitor 3G required iOS 9
| until recently.
| anh_n wrote:
| This app focus on running on-device AI algorithms so it needs
| latest OS software in able to do it.
| hedora wrote:
| We have cameras on driveways, etc where there is no power or
| ethernet. These cameras (and perhaps a solar powered wifi mesh
| network, which these could form if they had the right software)
| are a reasonable solution to that problem:
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| https://m.reolink.com/
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| I'd love to have it take video feeds from something like those.
| (Perhaps via a standard network protocol.)
|
| Store + ml recognize them locally, and simultaneously client-
| side encrypt and stream them to an s3-compatible bucket (eg
| backblaze b2).
|
| Bonus points if the gizmo has a sim card and backup battery so
| it keeps working if power / internet are cut. (Most of the time
| it'd upload via residential broadband (wifi/ethernet), but
| while the house is being broken into, it's fine if it burns a
| few GB of cell plan data.)
|
| Make sure the box is compatible with some sort of ssd/nvme
| drive (no moving parts), and not just hdd.
|
| One model for monetizing it: AGPL or BSL it, and offer some
| cloud side services for convenience features like managing the
| encrypted bucket, pruning "boring" videos after 30 days, etc.
| edit: or, provide a nice (open source, simple) nat hole
| punching vpn service so phones can see the video in real time.
| Maybe charge for access to bounce servers and automatic setup.
| 1MachineElf wrote:
| Thanks for sharing this. I was not aware that Reolink was
| introducing solar-powered cameras. I like their brand because
| back in 2017 I was searching for 802.3af PoE IP cams and they
| were the most recommended. Been running a couple since then
| and have had good results overall. I hope they are still
| producing them as good now as they were back then.
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