[HN Gopher] Show HN: Remarkbox - Hosted comments without ads or ...
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       Show HN: Remarkbox - Hosted comments without ads or tracking
        
       Author : foxhop
       Score  : 134 points
       Date   : 2021-02-05 17:06 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | matthewpick wrote:
       | I'm currently using https://commentbox.io for my static sites,
       | I'll have to try yours out!
        
       | marsknight wrote:
       | This is a really nice piece of software :)
       | 
       | It got so easy to build a dynamic, privacy-friendly, kiss website
       | nowadays.
        
         | foxhop wrote:
         | Thank you!
         | 
         | Agreed. Let's continue building some cool stuff and make it
         | accessible!
        
       | suyash wrote:
       | Sorry but I don't trust this product anymore than Disqus when it
       | comes to privacy etc unless it's open source.
        
         | foxhop wrote:
         | Here is my very personal answer to that question: filmed over
         | my lunch break
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/RD0FZ-ddido
        
           | vishnumohandas wrote:
           | Thank you for posting this. The project looks promising. You
           | do you. Godspeed.
        
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       | marcobehler wrote:
       | How does it compare to commento.io ?
        
       | asar wrote:
       | I really like the idea and the implementation looks nice! But not
       | having any type of spam protection is a deal breaker for me. Even
       | if links are set to nofollow, it's still a big opportunity for
       | bots and spammers to abuse this system and spread their links,
       | similar to what is happening to misconfigured wordpress sites.
        
         | foxhop wrote:
         | Thanks for the feedback. I'll add Akismet integration to the
         | backlog for people with the same objection. Allowing people to
         | pass an API key to their Namespace shouldn't be too difficult
         | but I'll need to build out a UI for separating ham versus spam
         | which might take more work.
         | 
         | In the Namespace settings you can force all comments into
         | moderation before displaying to the page. This would be the
         | best option for you in the mean time.
        
           | simplecto wrote:
           | One quick win that might catch most of the bots is using CSS
           | to hide an dummy form input.
           | 
           | No human will see it if their browser properly renders, but
           | bots using CSS selectors might fill it in. If you see that
           | field is filled in then you have a high probability of it
           | being a bot and can drop it.
        
             | ficklepickle wrote:
             | Regarding the hidden form input, make sure you aren't
             | blocking screen reader users/the visually disabled
             | accidently. Make sure you can't end up in that input with
             | the tab key.
             | 
             | I've found that comments submitted in less than 7 seconds
             | from page load are spam. On a few low traffic sites I just
             | discard anything faster than that.
             | 
             | A few bots seem to load a page, wait a while, then come
             | back to it. But by and large they seem to try to submit the
             | comment immediately after page load.
             | 
             | Mind you, this was on low-traffic sites. High traffic sites
             | I'm sure see more varied techniques.
        
               | foxhop wrote:
               | I like this. I'll add something like this to the backlog.
        
             | foxhop wrote:
             | yup. This really works for dumb bots.
        
       | TrishaK wrote:
       | How long will you be able to sustain this? I have a fairly small
       | site that has virtually no traffic, so I would love to use this
       | but what happens if you end up with a large number of sites using
       | this? And assume that the donations don't cover the expenses. Do
       | you have a fallback plan?
        
         | foxhop wrote:
         | I've optimized the codebase to scale.
         | 
         | Please use it on your small site with no traffic for free.
         | 
         | My biggest hope is for a large number of sites to use this.
         | 
         | I've been operating Remarkbox for the last 5 years.
         | 
         | Plan is to grow and try not to burn a bunch of money.
         | 
         | Fallback plan is open sourcing the codebase.
        
           | codetrotter wrote:
           | > Fallback plan is open sourcing the codebase.
           | 
           | I think the main concern for would-be user websites is not
           | the code, but what happens to all of the comments if you shut
           | down.
           | 
           | Worst-case one might not notice you plan to shut down before
           | you turn off the servers and all comments are lost.
           | 
           | Do you offer downloads of comment archives for user websites
           | so that they can download the comments in a convenient format
           | for backup?
           | 
           | That would be a relief for some people to have mayhaps.
           | 
           | Edit: I see that this has been addressed already and indeed
           | you do offer that. Excellent!
        
           | f-word wrote:
           | Hi! Sorry if I'm missing something. I do not understand how
           | to pay you? Clicked around the site for a bit and couldn't
           | find some self evident thing I can do to send you any given
           | amount of money; my employers might find the idea of this
           | being a paid service a bit more easy if I try to push this to
           | them for use on some of our microsites
        
             | foxhop wrote:
             | Go to https://my.remarkbox.com and verify your email. From
             | there you should see options.
        
           | TrishaK wrote:
           | Thank you for the follow-up. This + your other comment
           | showing that there is an export to JSON option make me feel a
           | lot better.
           | 
           | I will set it up this weekend and see how it goes.
        
             | foxhop wrote:
             | Awesome. Good luck.
        
       | rexreed wrote:
       | But when Remarkbox disappears, so do your comments? Is there no
       | self-hosting version possible?
        
         | foxhop wrote:
         | I answered this question here:
         | 
         | https://www.remarkbox.com/#4b2e69b0-67db-11eb-8f71-040140774...
        
           | rexreed wrote:
           | Great answer, thanks!
        
       | johnghanks wrote:
       | Guy runs a Comments-as-a-Service platform but speaks like he's
       | some revolutionary icon. He needs to indulge in some self-
       | reflection, I think.
        
       | clircle wrote:
       | I've been using utterances (github issue tracker powered
       | comments) on my website. Seems better than Disqus (lighter, less
       | tracking) but it requires a github account.
        
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