[HN Gopher] FOSDEM 2021
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       FOSDEM 2021
        
       Author : Dowwie
       Score  : 314 points
       Date   : 2021-02-05 10:29 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (fosdem.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (fosdem.org)
        
       | carapace wrote:
       | Ooo! William Byrd on miniKanren!
       | 
       | "miniKanren: a minimal declarative language for relational
       | programming"
       | 
       | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/minimalkanren/
        
       | nanna wrote:
       | Umm, what kind of resolution is the calendar meant to be
       | displayed at?
       | 
       | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/day/saturday/
        
       | bregma wrote:
       | Only thing that's missing is the cold rain, the food trucks, the
       | collectibles, and the strong ale.
        
         | coldtea wrote:
         | I like all of the things you've mentioned!
        
         | pjmlp wrote:
         | And not being able to watch a talk because you didn't bother to
         | come 10 minutes earlier to reserve a spot or had to fly
         | crossing the campus.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | Yep :-) When I went last year I decided to just pretty much
           | camp out in specific dev rooms and that worked a lot better.
           | It had grown to a point where trying to flit from room to
           | room was pretty much an exercise in frustration.
        
         | notagoodidea wrote:
         | The people and the collectibles, definitively.
        
         | UncleOxidant wrote:
         | Watch it from Portland?
        
         | patrickmcnamara wrote:
         | I used to collect every single sticker I could find. I hope I
         | can do that again next year. And the beer night in that alley.
        
         | Kototama wrote:
         | And getting sick on the last day on your way back to home.
        
         | woile wrote:
         | haha I miss the people and the food :(
        
           | omn1 wrote:
           | Me too. Shout out to the orga team who always provides cheap
           | (but great!) sandwiches and mate. That's FOSDEM to me. That
           | and the nerdy discussions in the rain while waiting in the
           | food truck queue.
        
       | syberspace wrote:
       | For anyone who doesn't have the time to attend there's a summary
       | at http://n-gate.com/fosdem/2021/
        
         | kstenerud wrote:
         | This link goes to a captcha page that never fully loads and
         | therefore cannot be passed.
        
           | gsich wrote:
           | It has a noobfilter. ;)
        
           | formerly_proven wrote:
           | Works fine for me, sounds like a you-problem.
        
           | em-bee wrote:
           | try http://n-gate.com/fosdem/
           | 
           | edit: don't do that. instead, when you see the 'captcha' use
           | one of the links on the right side.
           | 
           | but a better solution is to just open any of the links in a
           | private window. that seems to get rid of the referer.
        
             | code_scrapping wrote:
             | Interesting. "I'll talk about a thing I don't like to
             | people I don't like". Doesn't even work on the
             | sarcasm/satire level because there's too much effort put
             | into it. What am I missing?
        
               | oytis wrote:
               | It's fun and sometimes witty.
        
               | code_scrapping wrote:
               | Maybe the problem is with my sense of humor, but I find
               | that when a comedian starts the sketch with "you're a
               | stupid moron, let me tell you why..." I have trouble
               | following the rest.
        
           | smichel17 wrote:
           | It's the referer. Copy paste and open in new tab, rather than
           | clicking.
        
             | progval wrote:
             | Or use a browser extension that blocks referers, like
             | uMatrix. (It's a good habit for privacy in general, and
             | doesn't break any website I know but JIRA)
        
               | encom wrote:
               | Don't need an extension for that. Referer settings are
               | under network.http.referer.*
        
               | MayeulC wrote:
               | Unfortunately, umatrix has been archived:
               | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24532973
               | 
               | In the same vein (not the same functionality though), I
               | also like https://gitlab.com/KevinRoebert/ClearUrls to
               | strip tracking parts out of URLs.
        
       | frob wrote:
       | In that entire page, it does not once tell me what FOSDEM is (at
       | least on mobile). I can infer it's some sort of computing
       | conference from the events, but that's about it.
        
         | gspr wrote:
         | Did you click "about"? https://fosdem.org/2021/about/
        
         | thrrck wrote:
         | Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting
        
       | hexo wrote:
       | What lovely a super spreader event
        
         | sildur wrote:
         | Hey, free immunization. With a side of extreme sport.
        
           | detaro wrote:
           | Free immunization from watching an online event? I didn't
           | know Bill Gates 5G stuff was _that_ good already.
        
             | zoobab wrote:
             | Soon open source 5G, but the EU adopted software patents
             | via the UPC, so companies trying to spread it got banned
             | from the market.
        
         | jka wrote:
         | "While a virtual FOSDEM does not have buildings, our conference
         | management system expects them. So we reused them to group
         | talks by their type."
        
         | michielr wrote:
         | Oh come on. It's fully online. You could at least skim the page
         | before commenting.
        
         | 0XAFFE wrote:
         | Its purely virtual
         | 
         | https://fosdem.org/2021/news/2021-01-31-fosdem-online-sneak-...
        
         | izacus wrote:
         | Yep, super spreading ideas of software freedom to anyone online
         | seems like a lovely thing indeed.
        
       | zoobab wrote:
       | Join #fosdem-orval for a beer!
        
       | detaro wrote:
       | Even if not watching the talks (gotta admit, I'm a bit tired of
       | watching streams of talks by now...), I find just browsing
       | through the schedule and seeing what communities I'm not involved
       | with are getting up to really interesting each year. Even if it's
       | clearly just a subset of things it's a nice point to start search
       | further.
        
         | orra wrote:
         | Yeah, I have always found it interesting to read some fosdem
         | slides, and catch a talk or two (with sped up playback) from
         | the video archive.
         | 
         | I always meant to actually attend. Now I can, easily, online.
         | So no excuses.
        
           | mnahkies wrote:
           | The last couple of years at least you could watch live
           | streams during it, and recorded sessions after.
           | 
           | A lot of the fun is in the hallway conversations etc though,
           | so would still recommend attending if you can at some point
           | in the future
        
             | orra wrote:
             | > A lot of the fun is in the hallway conversations etc
             | though, so would still recommend attending if you can at
             | some point in the future
             | 
             | I look forward to it; next year is plausible, now that
             | we're manufacturing vaccines.
        
           | AtlasBarfed wrote:
           | Or reading a certain snarky website's nutshells of the talks
           | (and this site's).
        
             | orra wrote:
             | TBH I'm not sure which particular snarky site you mean!
        
               | jraph wrote:
               | Interpreting your comment as sarcasm would be plausible
               | given the subject, but anyway, your parent is probably
               | talking about http://n-gate.com/fosdem/
        
         | ssebastianj wrote:
         | I agree, in fact, until today I wasn't even aware about QAOps!
        
       | bryanwb wrote:
       | What a shame. I miss the pommes frites and awesome linux talks. I
       | believe this is all avoidable. I am a callous person. I think
       | that Covid, while bad, is not world ending and should not
       | preclude in-person events like this. Covid-19 appears to kill
       | about 0.3% of those infected. In-person events like FOSDEM
       | invaluable to open source and worth the risk for those w/out
       | underlying health conditions. Judge me. Tell me what a horrible
       | human I am.
        
         | pelf wrote:
         | You clearly don't work in a hospital.
        
           | bryanwb wrote:
           | do you? during winter? when they are usually full anyways?
           | Also, please tell me if hospitals in cities w/ full lockdowns
           | are doing better than those that are open? You can't. The
           | restrictions don't work. Florida isn't doing any worse than
           | CA. Unpopular opinion.
        
         | gspr wrote:
         | > In-person events like FOSDEM invaluable to open source and
         | worth the risk for those w/out underlying health conditions.
         | 
         | This would be fair enough if it were the case that only those
         | choosing to attend the event are taking the risk. Most would-be
         | attendees presumably live in societies where they interact with
         | others, and presumably would need to interact with others
         | travelling too and from the event.
        
           | bryanwb wrote:
           | It would make sense if closed cities were doing better than
           | oepn cities but that isn't the case. Miami has fewer deaths
           | than NYC and everything is open in Miami.
        
             | api wrote:
             | Vitamin D? Miami is a lot sunnier.
        
               | bryanwb wrote:
               | LA is pretty damn sunny
        
               | api wrote:
               | Yeah, it is puzzling. Of course we are assuming that all
               | areas count cases and deaths the same. That may not be
               | true. Maybe the rates are similar.
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | I think it's probably fair that when this is all
               | presumably past, we'll conclude that some of the measures
               | that we took and that many feel very strongly about
               | weren't super-effective. (And a lot of it boils down to
               | dumb luck.) On the other hand, there have been mitigating
               | measures to _some_ degree in most places so I can 't
               | seriously argue that we should have just have said "screw
               | it. Let's just pretend that everything's normal." and act
               | accordingly.
        
               | bryanwb wrote:
               | LA and Miami have similar # of deaths to covid while LA
               | has way more restrictions. The difference? The
               | difference? The restrictions can't stop the spread of a
               | respiratory disease. They never could. We just copied
               | China on the masks, social distancing, and lockdowns.
               | That's it. Virus gonna virus whatever you do.
        
               | api wrote:
               | I used to live in LA and people really flouted the
               | restrictions. They worked in China because the Chinese
               | actually followed them.
        
               | bryanwb wrote:
               | I currently live in a SE asian country w/ very few covid
               | deaths and few restrictions. The most likely reason is
               | prior immunity due to exposure to other coronaviruses.
        
               | bryanwb wrote:
               | My family and friends in LA are all wearing masks and
               | social distancing. Doesn't seem to be making a big diff.
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | Clearly untenable and irresponsible to hold an in-person event
         | right now. I'm quite sure the school it's held at wouldn't have
         | allowed it even if the organizers wanted to do it. You're not
         | necessarily a horrible person. Just utterly disconnected from
         | reality. Watch your Linux talks on video and get some takeout
         | fries.
        
           | bryanwb wrote:
           | cuz everybody dyin'. I know. All 0.3% of them and the 99% of
           | that 0.3 w/ underlying conditions. Awful I am.
        
         | phatfish wrote:
         | I think this is fine as long a those who decide to risk their
         | life do not put others at risk without their consent, and there
         | are equivalent remote or socially distanced alternatives for
         | all activities.
         | 
         | For example, anyone who decides they want to risk infection
         | should have to register with the government and they will be
         | provided with an arm band that must be on display in public
         | areas so other citizens can avoid them. Private premises will
         | have the legal right to deny access to anyone with the arm
         | band.
         | 
         | It might be a fun experiment in natural selection taking is
         | course. All the "callous" types can go to FOSDEM and and see
         | how bad of an infection of COVID-19 they -- or their relatives
         | -- will get, and if they are part of the 0.3% (if that is
         | accurate).
        
           | jimmygrapes wrote:
           | I suggest nice yellow stars to wear
        
           | bryanwb wrote:
           | Except that we - literally all of us - have to live with this
           | disease. The vaccines are somewhat effective but not entirely
           | at best 70% but perhaps 40% and worse for those most
           | vulnerable. There is only one way forward.
        
         | laputan_machine wrote:
         | It's not about the people going to these events, it's who those
         | people end up infecting.
         | 
         | A student goes to FOSDEM , catches COVID-19 without any
         | symptoms, and then on the way back home ends up interacting
         | with a bunch of elderly family members, infecting them and
         | possibly hospitalising them in the process. That's just one
         | scenario, there are hundreds of other scenarios that will also
         | occur.
         | 
         | Why take the risk?
        
           | bryanwb wrote:
           | Why live? Why cross the fucking street? Why leave your home?
           | Why smile at people on the street? Why interact in-person w/
           | humans who don't live in your domicile? Because it is the
           | essence of what makes us human.
           | 
           | You have let Covid-19 rob you of your humanity. I won't let
           | it rob me of mine.
        
             | You-Are-Right wrote:
             | You can meet many people as a volunteer in a Covid station
             | in a hospital in many countries right now. Also helping to
             | burn bodies.
        
             | cyphar wrote:
             | Death robs you of your humanity far more effectively than
             | any lockdown. Also now that we have several effective
             | vaccines being rolled out all over the world, it makes even
             | less sense to have this attitude. And all this in the name
             | of some Linux talks and pommes frites? I think you need a
             | little bit more perspective on the situation.
        
               | bryanwb wrote:
               | Fear robs you of life before any credible threat. Stay in
               | your home and turn off your Internet access. I implore
               | you.
               | 
               | Become obese and Vitamin D deficient. All the public
               | health authorities are on your side.
               | 
               | Why live when you can die? Hide in your toilette eating
               | ramen. The rest of us are going to live.
        
               | cyphar wrote:
               | I live in Australia, so my life has been back to normal
               | for several months now. I get the feeling you are afraid
               | of something though, so maybe you're projecting those
               | fears onto other people.
        
               | bryanwb wrote:
               | And if the vaccines don't work you will be stuck in
               | Australia for years w/out the ability to leave your
               | country . . . or your home!
               | 
               | Further, as an Australian you have given up all your
               | civil rights for fear of Covid-19. Hope you don't miss
               | them.
               | 
               | I am afraid of my 77 year old mother catching Covid-19.
               | However, she will not be attending FOSDEM :). And if she
               | lived with me neither would I.
        
               | [deleted]
        
         | cyphar wrote:
         | Current CFR is closer to 3% globally not 0.3% (I don't know how
         | people get this number consistently wrong -- it's on the first
         | page of any CoVID tracking website). A reminder that 3% of the
         | world population is more than 150 million people (and the CFR
         | goes up if hospitals are overrun -- which we saw several times
         | last year).
         | 
         | Most people have some kind of underlying health condition (more
         | than two-thirds of the western world are overweight or obese --
         | that's already one co-morbidity), so it's not surprising that
         | most people who die from CoVID have other health conditions.
         | And this is ignoring the more obvious problem that even
         | otherwise perfectly healthy people can infect family and
         | friends.
        
           | bryanwb wrote:
           | CFR is positive tests divided by fatalities. Given that this
           | is a highly transmissible respiratory disease it most likely
           | that the actual fatality rate is 1/10 or 1/100 of 3%. The WHO
           | has said as much. You are welcome to be a member of Team
           | Apocalypse. I won't deny you entry
           | 
           | Per the WHO, Infection fatality rate is ~ 0.27% but you want
           | the apocalypse. I am sad you are hoping for the worst. What
           | is it that you actually wish for? The failure of our society?
           | Are you rooting against us?
           | 
           | https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf
        
             | cyphar wrote:
             | Case fatality (which is at 3%) is not the same as infection
             | fatality. You cannot directly measure infection fatality
             | until the pandemic is over (the best you have are estimates
             | until then), so going with the case fatality rate (which
             | has stayed around 3% for most of the pandemic) seems like a
             | reasonable choice.
        
               | tremon wrote:
               | How will you measure infection fatality after the
               | pandemic is over? You will still need to know the number
               | of infected (including the asymptomatic) before you can
               | arrive at a meaningful number. Or do you mean that
               | infection fatality can be calculated once you assume that
               | 100% of the population has been exposed to the virus? IFR
               | would still be based on assumptions, I think.
        
       | belorn wrote:
       | Based on the blog post linked here in the comments, the talk
       | themselves are actually already prerecorded. The live aspect will
       | only be the Q/A with the speaker and a host.
       | 
       | Does that change how people will perceive the conference?
        
         | notagoodidea wrote:
         | Not a lot. At FOSDEM (at least for the last 10y, I have been
         | attending), you have four kinds of talks:
         | 
         | * Lighting talks/short talks: Most of the time, you may not
         | have Q/A if the speaker talks too long but you can catch they
         | off stage to talk about it. So you keep the live aspect.
         | 
         | * Big/Popular talks/Main roam (Janson): You don't ask Q/A
         | during those presentations so it would not change a lot.
         | 
         | * Mid-sized talks/roams: It depends on the speaker how much
         | interaction, he wants.
         | 
         | * Tiny roams: There you will loose the jokes and the fun going
         | on with well-know speakers in their communities.
         | 
         | I think we will see less informal/fun talks because the
         | streaming format does not easily allow the spur of the moment
         | joke/question. The quality of the speaker will really during
         | those Q/A moments but on a time management side, the good news
         | is that you have less time-keeping to do with a prerecorded
         | streaming event if each talks has his channel.
        
         | Schalter wrote:
         | Of course and it will not be the same;
         | 
         | For the ccc conference rc3, linus said something in direction
         | of 'lets not do that again'.
         | 
         | At least for me, i go to Fosdem for all the talks of course but
         | also to see people, dring belgien beer, eat, freeze, have wet
         | shoes and enjoy the sun on the second day for 1-2 hours.
        
         | detaro wrote:
         | IMHO that's generally a good model: it reduces issues with the
         | setup or speakers internet connections, and allows the speaker
         | to stress-free answer questions in chat during the talk.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | It can make sense to have a real-time portion so that
           | attendees get more of a sense of attending a live "event."
           | But I agree that my experience as someone helping to run some
           | events is that it makes sense to pre-record most sessions.
           | There's a lot less sense of working without a safety net,
           | fewer problems, and more time to focus on making those parts
           | that are live go as smoothly as possible.
        
       | ksec wrote:
       | OpenPOWER - It will be interesting to see update on MicroWatt,
       | the Free, Open Source implementation of POWER.
       | 
       | PostgreSQL- Lots of Update.
       | 
       | Containers - Running Linux container on Darwin / macOS.
       | 
       | I find it funny, that _The_ most interesting section for me is
       | actually RetroComputing! Ada, Germini, DOS, 68K Mac, ZX Spectrum.
        
       | hardwaresofton wrote:
       | The amount of free edge-of-industry information out there is
       | staggering, can't wait till I get to browse the collection and
       | pick and choose talks to watch.
       | 
       | You can find FOSDEM 2020 recordings on Youtube[0]. Despite my
       | misgivings about Google, I certainly do use their product for
       | this. Youtube is _insanely_ good for teeing up technical talks to
       | watch.
       | 
       | [0]:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bagFAfFVruY&list=PL_QKjHDgmN...
        
         | johannes1234321 wrote:
         | I hope they don't see it to much as an industry event, but keep
         | it focussed on the FOSS community. This is what makes the
         | Charme of the event - you get all sorts of content, mostly
         | about technology, less about tech marketing. Especially also
         | from projects with little to no financial objectives.
        
           | hardwaresofton wrote:
           | Ah yes, I didn't mean to imply that the event was _for_
           | industry -- I meant that it was at the cutting edge (which is
           | normally the leading edge of industry) since it 's full of
           | hackers and builders.
           | 
           | I also do not want it to become an "industry event" in that
           | sense, I enjoy it 10x more than I do the bajillion Kubecons.
           | I was also referring to not just FOSDEM, but there's
           | PostgresConf/Open, USENIX, OpenZFS, InfoQ, JSConf, Strange
           | Loop -- there is so much information out there that it's
           | exhausting but absolutely to our benefit.
           | 
           | As companies go through their possibly short-lived tryst with
           | true open source (before everyone starts reverting to
           | shareware), they are sharing big ambitious projects that
           | they're working on, and giving interesting talks on the
           | architecture, motivations, etc.
        
             | datameta wrote:
             | I'd like to add TinyML Summit to that list.
             | 
             | TinyML Asia 2020 was wonderfully executed virtually. The
             | amount of truly breakthrough research and development
             | offered is astounding! It is also quite possible to make
             | connections and discuss people's work and ideas post fact
             | much more easily nowadays. I must say the Q&A feature works
             | quite well in a videoconference setting. Everyone can see
             | the questions - there is no chance of them being misheard.
             | 
             | For smaller settings a live (virtual) discussion is also
             | remarkably workable and useful. Never thought I could
             | easily chitchat with one of the authors of the Agile
             | manifesto, or of the head of the largest LoRaWAN network in
             | the world, etc...
             | 
             | Excited for TinyML Summit 2021!!
        
         | thesuperbigfrog wrote:
         | All of the videos are also available for download:
         | 
         | https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/events/
        
         | petercooper wrote:
         | YouTube is so good that I frequently forget it's a Google
         | product. It's a feather in their cap that they've let it remain
         | mostly separate (minus that brief dalliance with Google+
         | integration).
        
       | 1MachineElf wrote:
       | There's enough talks in here to last me most of 2021
        
       | edwintorok wrote:
       | I don't know what is with all the negativity here in the toplevel
       | comments. I've downloaded the Android app and bookmarked quite a
       | few talks that I'm looking forward to.
        
       | rjammala wrote:
       | Looking forward to watching this one
       | 
       | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/gotailscale/
        
       | gerty wrote:
       | As far as I remember, it's a first time there are separate
       | devrooms for Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice. It's been 10
       | years now, is it me or it feels like a waste of efforts ?
        
         | scaladev wrote:
         | OpenOffice is a waste of efforts, sure. It's not really a
         | problem though as there are barely any efforts at all.
        
           | foxhop wrote:
           | That's ridiculous, my wife makes great money using OpenOffice
           | to create and publish digital downloads for teachers.
           | 
           | Here is her e-commerce shop:
           | https://shop.printableprompts.com
           | 
           | If you are in the market to sell digital downloads check the
           | platform I'm building: https://www.makepostsell.com
           | 
           | Open source has lots of efforts and bringong more attention
           | to Open Office (or Libre office) is a great idea.
        
             | coldtea wrote:
             | > _That 's ridiculous, my wife makes great money using
             | OpenOffice to create and publish digital downloads for
             | teachers._
             | 
             | What parent means is OpenOffice is barely maintained (or no
             | effort is put), not that it's worthless.
             | 
             | They also imply that LibreOffice is where the action is,
             | and is better maintained with a bigger community.
             | 
             | I don't follow the projects to know if that's the case, but
             | that's what the parent seems to mean, not that OpenOffice
             | is not usable.
        
               | foxhop wrote:
               | Thanks for clarifying.
        
       | michaelanckaert wrote:
       | Fosdem is a really great event. No corporate (or too much)
       | involvement. A true volunteer run conference with great talks,
       | great people and great Belgian Beer :-)
        
       | okso wrote:
       | Most of the discussions will take place using Matrix. This blog
       | article explains more on the topic:
       | 
       | https://matrix.org/blog/2021/01/04/taking-fosdem-online-via-...
        
         | feb wrote:
         | And they even have talks on how to run a big virtual conference
         | and some lessons learned :                 *
         | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/matrix_communities/
         | * https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/jitsi_scaling/       *
         | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/vircadia/
        
       | You-Are-Right wrote:
       | How do the video recordings happen? It still looks like this
       | important feature was forgotten in Jitsi?
        
         | saghul wrote:
         | Jitsi does have recordings :-)
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | I didn't submit any talks this year but I assume it's like
         | other events where people record them at home and then upload
         | them somewhere. ADDED: A lot of people use OBS.
        
       | read_if_gay_ wrote:
       | Tons of stuff there. Any favorites?
        
         | MaxBarraclough wrote:
         | Looking forward to
         | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/retro_gemini/
        
           | 2pEXgD0fZ5cF wrote:
           | Same here. Also
           | https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/matrix_pinecones/
        
           | Tepix wrote:
           | Seems to be hard to create a website where you can login or
           | maintain a session with Gemini. Perhaps it's too radical?
           | Can't indicate your preferred languages either.
           | 
           | Perhaps a "simple web mode" would be the better solution... a
           | proxy that strips away the unwanted parts.
        
             | MaxBarraclough wrote:
             | > Seems to be hard to create a website where you can login
             | or maintain a session with Gemini
             | 
             | I don't think that's supported. Gemini is more about
             | providing an ultra-lightweight alternative to 'Web 1.0'.
             | It's more at the level of the man page format, [0] or
             | markdown, than HTML.
             | 
             | I imagine they might want a way to provide access-control,
             | but I doubt they'd be interested in implementing read/write
             | features.
             | 
             | > Can't indicate your preferred languages either.
             | 
             | Looking at the spec, I think you can. [1]
             | 
             | > Perhaps a "simple web mode" would be the better
             | solution... a proxy that strips away the unwanted parts.
             | 
             | Don't we have that with Reader Mode and Outline.com?
             | 
             | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_page#Formatting
             | 
             | [1]
             | https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/specification.html
        
         | majormjr wrote:
         | I'm looking forward to the open source CAD talks. There is one
         | about the Linkstage3 branch of FreeCAD that will go over some
         | of the new features added there and those improvements will
         | eventually end up in the mainline branch.
        
       | nivenkos wrote:
       | Bit of a shame there's no Rust dev room.
        
         | omn1 wrote:
         | The organizers of the previous RUST devroom (2018, 2019, 2020)
         | decided that we won't be organizing it this year as a huge part
         | of FOSDEM is getting people in the same room and being able to
         | create face to face discussions on the back of the
         | 
         | We announced it here a while ago:
         | https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/j03i80/fosdem_2021_on...
         | 
         | We were encouraging others to fill the gap if they wanted but
         | no one really stepped up so... ;) I hope that next year we'll
         | be back in person.
        
         | stickac wrote:
         | Rust talks always happened in the Mozilla dev room
         | historically.
        
         | bregma wrote:
         | Getting people to stop talking about Rust is the big challenge.
         | No need to facilitate it.
        
           | vaylian wrote:
           | A rust room was actually the first thing I was looking for.
           | But I can understand that not everyone shares our enthusiasm,
           | because there are also a lot of other cool things to talk
           | about.
        
         | johannes1234321 wrote:
         | Rooms are organized by volunteers of the communities. Typically
         | there was a shortage of physical rooms which doesn't exist that
         | much inna virtual event (still they wouldn't take everything I
         | assume and haven't counted if/how much they grew)
         | 
         | If the is no Rust room, it seems that nobody from the Rust
         | community saw need to hold these kinds of gatherings. So maybe
         | an item for your to-do list to push for next year. (And as
         | others have said in this thread: previously it was part of
         | Mozilla and given Mozilla's change of priorities recently, I
         | assume they stepped back)
        
         | albertzeyer wrote:
         | I was also looking for that.
         | 
         | Go, Kotlin, Zig, Python, JavaScript have devrooms.
         | 
         | It seems there is one Rust talk in the Mozilla room. But this
         | is way less than for the other languages.
         | 
         | I wonder why Rust is somewhat underrepresented at FOSDEM. Or
         | maybe my view is totally biased from reading too much HN...
         | 
         | Despite, now that Mozilla does not maintain Rust anymore, I
         | think this really should get a separate devroom.
         | 
         | Edit: Downvote? Why? What is controversial about what I said?
         | Really curious. That Rust should get a separate devroom? Not
         | relevant enough? But this is even what I considered in the
         | sentence before.
         | 
         | Or are there more Rust talks and I didn't found them? Actually,
         | there seem to be some more, but still less than for other
         | languages: https://fosdem.org/2021/search/?q=rust
        
           | steveklabnik wrote:
           | Rust had a room the last few years. I don't know if anyone
           | actually applied for one this year. It's a weird time for
           | conferences.
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | In normal times, giving a talk at a conference is a good
             | excuse to go to a conference you want to attend--and many
             | orgs won't generally let folks attend an event if they're
             | not doing something specific there. In the current
             | circumstances, a lot of people are a lot less inclined to
             | put the effort to create one more video among the doubtless
             | thousands of videos being created for conferences. I know
             | I'm still doing some but definitely doing fewer submittals
             | than I would normally.
        
           | jen20 wrote:
           | Rust had a dedicated dev room last year:
           | https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/track/rust/
        
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