[HN Gopher] IBM quantum computers now finish some tasks in hours...
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       IBM quantum computers now finish some tasks in hours, not months
        
       Author : nkjoep
       Score  : 109 points
       Date   : 2021-02-04 13:14 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.engadget.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.engadget.com)
        
       | dvh wrote:
       | I think this year will IBM factor 55 using Shor's.
        
         | AtlasBarfed wrote:
         | Genuine question, is this sarcasm or reality? IBM's marketing
         | of things like this is highly questionably, especially since
         | blockchain and watson turned out to be such smokescreens from
         | the marketplace/product/adoption standpoint.
         | 
         | 1000 qubits in two years seems like a "quantum" leap based on
         | what I read.
        
           | suifbwish wrote:
           | Those SOBs were too busy planning the demise of CentOS to
           | bother
        
           | dvh wrote:
           | In 2019 ibm tried 35 but there was too much noise, I think
           | this year they will skip 35 and go directly to 55.
        
           | klyrs wrote:
           | > 1000 qubits in two years seems like a "quantum" leap based
           | on what I read.
           | 
           | It is; that's enough to make a single error-corrected qubit.
           | So the leap here is effectively one quantum
        
           | 8note wrote:
           | It doesn't seem likely that they'll factor 55 within 3 years
        
           | DebtDeflation wrote:
           | >Genuine question, is this sarcasm or reality?
           | 
           | Pretty sure it's both.
           | 
           | The hype level now being applied to all things "quantum"
           | makes the hype that was applied to AI a few years ago seem
           | like mere puffery.
        
             | refulgentis wrote:
             | IMHO thats a bit blinkered, i have a deep interest in the
             | field and the only mainstream publications on it clearly
             | note there's no practical applications yet, and we're
             | looking at a 5-10 year horizon of _maybe_ finding a niche
             | application that actually improves with a handful of qubits
             | 
             | Contrast that with AI, which caused formation of new
             | departments and hiring binges throughout industry,
             | including industry far outside tech
        
               | xirbeosbwo1234 wrote:
               | And all those hordes of "AI" "engineers" are less useful
               | than a few hundred statisticians. If the buzzwords get
               | innumerate business types to invest in building models,
               | that is great. I just wish they would let people use
               | things that actually work and that a human can
               | understand, like linear regression.
               | 
               | We have seen legitimate revolutions in natural language
               | processing, computer vision, and games. Those things,
               | however, are still a long way from being useful.
        
         | dboreham wrote:
         | Very confused why they're not trying 42 first.
        
       | daxfohl wrote:
       | Qiskit has been out forever (https://qiskit.org/). What do they
       | mean by "plans to release it in 2021"?
        
         | kitd wrote:
         | v1.0 release?
        
         | ericmay wrote:
         | If anyone is interested - my old team published a primer on
         | quantum computing and using Qiskit that should be quite
         | appropriate for a developer audience. Code samples start at
         | page 48.
         | 
         | https://arxiv.org/abs/1907.11513v1
         | 
         | I have no involvement now and have moved on to a different
         | company. The team has also gone on to do way bigger and better
         | things and has published some additional papers that are way
         | over my skill level and knowledge.
        
           | amir734jj wrote:
           | Thanks for sharing
        
       | 11thEarlOfMar wrote:
       | "Qiskit and improved hardware will lead to a day when anyone can
       | put quantum computing to use, even if it's through a distant
       | mainframe." J. Fingas, Engaget, 2021
       | 
       | "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
       | Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943
        
         | dr_dshiv wrote:
         | "I think there is a world market for maybe five cloud computer
         | companies" -- what Thomas Watson meant
        
         | oblio wrote:
         | > "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
         | Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943
         | 
         | Watson was not wrong, even though everybody likes to quote this
         | and act like he was dumb.
         | 
         | At the time he was saying that a computer was the size of a 2
         | story building and probably cost half a billion dollars in
         | today's money (maybe even more?) plus who knows how much in
         | maintenance costs.
         | 
         | And their applicability was extremely limited plus potential
         | customers didn't even realize that they'd need them.
        
         | greatgoat420 wrote:
         | So, there is a world market for five quantum computers that
         | anyone can use?
        
       | dayofthedaleks wrote:
       | 1) Am I hitting a paywall or is the article really only 4
       | paragraphs long, amounting to a directly-relayed press release?
       | 
       | 2) Is it more likely that this is funded by the NSA, or instead
       | that the NSA has had something similar for decades and this is a
       | ploughsare-type filtration of techniques into the private sector?
        
         | zitterbewegung wrote:
         | 1) Yes
         | 
         | 2) No, ploughsare filtration techniques seem to go in reverse
         | like self driving cars.
        
         | Bostonian wrote:
         | What does the phrase "ploughsare-type filtration of techniques
         | into the private sector" mean?
        
           | tsomctl wrote:
           | I'm thinking it's this:
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swords_to_ploughshares
        
       | undefined1 wrote:
       | what are the implications with regard to encryption and crypto,
       | if any?
        
         | upofadown wrote:
         | This is only about speeding up the support stuff. No actual
         | quantum improvement is discussed.
         | 
         | There is a tremendous amount of misinformation floating around
         | on this topic. The short answer is that we are not even close
         | to starting yet. This has a good discussion:
         | 
         | * https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/59795/largest-
         | int...
         | 
         | Note the new and exciting estimate of _only_ 20 million
         | physical qubits required to crack RSA 2048. The article
         | mentions the hope of achieving 1000 physical qubits.
        
         | xirbeosbwo1234 wrote:
         | Does "crypto" refer to the branch of mathematics or to the
         | scam?
         | 
         | It has substantial theoretical implications in cryptography,
         | but any practical applications are decades off.
         | 
         | Cryptocurrency couldn't get any more broken, so it has no
         | implications for that.
        
         | hannob wrote:
         | None at all.
        
       | m-chrzan wrote:
       | Note that this is not about quantum speedup, but, rather
       | conversely, making the classical part of the computation more
       | efficient. Still important to get these quantum-adjacent things
       | correct, but not as groundbreaking as one could hope for just
       | reading the headline.
        
         | silexia wrote:
         | I am pretty impressed. Also, this makes digital currencies even
         | more suspect.
        
           | Covzire wrote:
           | AS I understand it, Quantum computers as of yet are only
           | useful for a relatively small set of obscure operations.
           | They're extremely fast of course, but they're not a drop in
           | replacement for basic gate operations that classical
           | computers and their crypto algorithms use. A cryptocoin like
           | bitcoin uses multiple algorithms making them an exceptionally
           | difficult problem to program a quantum computer to handle. If
           | you ask me, we'll hear about Quantum computers breaking a lot
           | of other things before they get to crypto coins.
        
           | m-chrzan wrote:
           | This is specifically what you shouldn't be worried about just
           | based on the speedup that the article focuses on. This is
           | about a constant-factor speedup from a better-engineered
           | classical component, not the exponential speedup you get from
           | being able to handle additional qubits.
        
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