[HN Gopher] The Shocking Meltdown of Ample Hills, Brooklyn's Hot...
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       The Shocking Meltdown of Ample Hills, Brooklyn's Hottest Ice Cream
       Company
        
       Author : uptown
       Score  : 26 points
       Date   : 2021-02-04 13:12 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | h2odragon wrote:
       | Ice cream is a particular bitch to scale; it seems. Look at Blue
       | Bell. Either you lose the delicate fats (fake ice cream blah) or
       | you get contamination problems, or you stay small batch.
        
         | gsk22 wrote:
         | Is it actually hard to scale or just expensive? Breyers mass-
         | produced "non-fake" ice cream for years (at a high price point)
         | before switching to the fake stuff more recently.
         | 
         | I'm guessing most people just aren't willing to pay $8 for a
         | quart of real ice cream when there's "almost" ice cream for $3.
        
       | pradn wrote:
       | This is really unfortunate - their ice cream is some of the best
       | I've had. They took a risk in trying to scale up rapidly and paid
       | the price. It is what it is.
        
         | striking wrote:
         | Is it really so unfortunate? They seem to still be
         | operating[1][2][3], just without the froth.
         | 
         | 1: https://www.amplehills.com/
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         | 2: https://twitter.com/amplehills
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         | 3: https://order.trycaviar.com/ample-hills
        
       | marcinzm wrote:
       | As I see it, with physical goods, unlike software, production
       | costs go up with revenue. So you can't simply growth hack your
       | way out of fundamental inefficiencies.
        
         | mdorazio wrote:
         | Yes and no. With physical products, it's usually non-linear due
         | to economies of scale. The more you make, the cheaper the unit
         | cost gets. But there are often other challenges with scale,
         | like distribution and large capital injections needed to order
         | raw materials and scale up factories.
        
       | dundermuffl1n wrote:
       | TLDR: they didn't do much math on the revenues and expenses.
       | 
       | Even with a product that's an outright winner, it is hard to be
       | successful if you do not have basic financial sense.
        
       | darth_avocado wrote:
       | I feel fundamentally, we are in a time where, every business is a
       | unicorn and needs hyper growth. It's like grow at all cost, you
       | can do it if you throw enough money at it. While it may be
       | feasible for some businesses, most require strong fundamentals to
       | survive for long.
        
       | romwell wrote:
       | Everything aside, props to headline writers for coming up with
       | that "Ice Cream Meltdown" title.
        
       | JoeAltmaier wrote:
       | Same thing happened at our local Great Midwestern Ice Cream
       | Company. They expanded, had several stores. Built a factory and
       | Boom! bankrupt.
       | 
       | Just because you like ice cream, is no reason to think you should
       | run a business. You have to like business.
        
       | tpmx wrote:
       | It's kind of hard to feel bad for a marketing-driven company
       | failing.
        
         | FriedrichN wrote:
         | Bill Hicks on Marketing
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         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0
        
         | marcinzm wrote:
         | People seem to have actually liked the ice cream. Most every
         | company will do marketing, nothing evil about that.
        
         | thomaslangston wrote:
         | That appellation seems inappropriate in this case. They made
         | good ice cream. At least it was good to me. And the customer
         | service I received at multiple locations was good too.
         | 
         | The only marketing I received was word of mouth referral.
        
         | prawn wrote:
         | Admittedly, I didn't read the full story, but the bits I did
         | read included a mid-life crisis guy taking courses to learn to
         | make ice cream and growing a business with the support of his
         | partner.
        
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