[HN Gopher] 2020 Q4 Alphabet Earnings Release [pdf]
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       2020 Q4 Alphabet Earnings Release [pdf]
        
       Author : lawrenceyan
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2021-02-02 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | gundmc wrote:
       | I fear this will only encourage the frankly absurd number of ads
       | that have been on Youtube videos lately.
        
         | mav3rick wrote:
         | You can also get an ad free experience for about 3 dollars a
         | month.
        
           | mattlondon wrote:
           | In the UK it is PS12 a month for YouTube premium which is
           | more like 15USD. Feels quite expensive when Netflix is about
           | half of that.
        
             | deadmutex wrote:
             | How much is Spotify? YT Premium ~= YT Music + Ad free
             | videos + YT Originals.
        
           | ra7 wrote:
           | Isn't YouTube Premium $11.99 per month?
        
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         | sniperjzp wrote:
         | You can see this kind of comment in every YouTube related
         | posts, please, there's no free lunch, either pay for the
         | subscription or use tools to block the ads.
        
           | gundmc wrote:
           | I have no problem with some ads. I have a problem with
           | midroll ads every 5 minutes and ads >> 2 minutes long when
           | I've stepped away from my device and can't skip.
        
             | actuator wrote:
             | Why not just pay for the service?
        
             | justapassenger wrote:
             | YouTube premium is available in tons of countries and they
             | have family plans. I've been using it for years with my
             | wife and it's best money ever spent.
             | 
             | Just pay for the content. You aren't forced to watch those
             | ads.
        
         | seaman1921 wrote:
         | what makes you think you are entitled to using youtube for
         | free? The ad-free experience in Premium is great.
         | 
         | And don't forget they are paying a huge sum to the content
         | creators as well - it is a delicate balance.
        
           | FartyMcFarter wrote:
           | I find it annoying that lots of content creators still put
           | sponsored ads in their videos which are shown to me as a
           | premium user. IMO those should be skipped automatically when
           | Premium, but alas...
        
             | ZephyrBlu wrote:
             | I'm not why you expect YouTube to skip sponsorships which
             | are directly integrated into the video...
             | 
             | Also, content creators do it because brand deals are
             | generally a big chunk of change.
        
         | polote wrote:
         | Youtube is almost unusable without uBlock Origin or you have to
         | call it Adstube.
        
           | silexia wrote:
           | Pay the $10 a month or whatever for Youtube premium and never
           | see an ad again.
        
             | vkou wrote:
             | It's a decent deal if you also want the YT Music (Formerly
             | Google Play Music) library, not a great deal otherwise.
             | 
             | (I do want the music library, so I've been a subscriber for
             | a very long time.)
        
               | actuator wrote:
               | Personally I use YouTube way more than Netflix so to me
               | just ad free YouTube also seems worth paying for.
               | 
               | I haven't tried YT music yet as I am happy with Spotify.
        
         | jansan wrote:
         | IMO they show you those annoying ads (two in a row recently) to
         | make you subscribe to the ad-free premium service.
        
       | PieUser wrote:
       | So Google Cloud is still losing money. Anyone know if Azure is
       | profitable?
        
         | threatripper wrote:
         | Are the cloud losses all real or is it an accounting artifact
         | due to internally providing services without charging for them
         | in full?
        
           | mike_d wrote:
           | GCP runs on Google, but Google doesn't run on GCP.
        
         | gundmc wrote:
         | At this stage of cloud, all that's really important is revenue
         | growth. GCP is only a quarter of the size of Azure and AWS -
         | they need to gain market share regardless of how much
         | investment it requires in the short term.
        
         | seshagiric wrote:
         | It looks like Google Cloud made $13Bn and had expenses/losses
         | of $5Bn i.e., net positive $8Bn. Why do you think it's losing
         | money?
        
           | dantheman wrote:
           | Google lost $5 billion, that's not it's expenses.
        
             | seshagiric wrote:
             | Ah got it, $5Bn is the 'operating income' so although they
             | made $13Bn, they ended up spending $18Bn.
        
       | ksec wrote:
       | Google _still_ growing revenue at 23% YoY?
       | 
       | Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Google. All of them beat
       | even the most optimistic estimates.
       | 
       | Will have to dig into whether the cost of being Apple's default
       | search engine has risen. Generally speaking it should $10 / user
       | / year. Apple just reported another 200M increase in Active
       | Devices. There _should_ be some hint, or may be it will have to
       | wait until next contract negotiation.
        
         | actuator wrote:
         | I personally think Google can continue at this pace as GCP
         | value is still not unlocked completely. I can't comment on the
         | other services but in my previous job we did shift a lot of
         | compute instances stuff to GCP from AWS because of ease of
         | automation. If other services catch up to AWS and with unique
         | offerings like Spanner, a lot of room for them to grow.
         | 
         | Though it is quite scary how these companies are so big and yet
         | growing so fast.
        
       | lawrenceyan wrote:
       | Live Earnings Call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O45kGgcbR8s
        
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