[HN Gopher] Moscow Detention Centers Have Run Out of Space, Fill...
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       Moscow Detention Centers Have Run Out of Space, Filled with
       Peaceful Protesters
        
       Author : dondeee
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2021-02-02 20:22 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.amnesty.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.amnesty.org)
        
       | ndiscussion wrote:
       | I'm not exactly a bootlicker, and I'm not informed on the
       | situation, but do we have any proof this isn't the same kind of
       | peaceful protests we had in the USA?
       | 
       | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cnn-ridiculed-for-fi...
       | 
       | Any sane government would be arresting people involved with
       | torching police buildings. If these people are innocent, I pray
       | for their release.
        
         | bvrmn wrote:
         | We are walking peacefully without looting and riots.
         | Authorities decline any attempt to get permission for peaceful
         | demonstration which allows them to justify police violence.
         | Situation is pretty grim.
        
         | leshenka wrote:
         | First protest this year was at Jan 23rd. Lots of people, lots
         | of, as we're calling them, cosmonauts. Lots of violence towards
         | unarmed people, zero looting. Singular acts of someone hitting
         | or fighting policemen that were wearing full body armor and a
         | helmet with lovered visor and often without badge. (hence
         | cosmonauts)
         | 
         | If you were to tune to any government-controlled news channel
         | (pretty much all of them), you'd only see three-minute
         | compilation of "violent protesters" whereas numerous internet
         | media outlets were showing the full picture, all day, live,
         | from all angles.
         | 
         | Go figure.
        
       | dondeee wrote:
       | >Russian authorities have arrested so many people in recent weeks
       | that detention centres in Moscow have run out of space
       | 
       | This fact astounds me, I cannot believe that the Russian
       | Government still somehow think they are the good guys here.
        
         | vladTheInhaler wrote:
         | Why would you think that they feel a need to be the "good
         | guys"? They are doing their part in perpetuating a power
         | structure that benefits them personally.
        
           | dondeee wrote:
           | To be frank, I do not think they feel such a need, I was just
           | trying to get the conversation in the comments started
           | because I feel the need to attract as much attention to this
           | as I personally can.
        
           | netsharc wrote:
           | Yeah, the police are probably corrupt (random URL to back up
           | my hypothesis: [0]), I remember reading a great book about
           | corruption, Thieves of State, discussed here [1], it talks
           | why the police would be defending the system:
           | 
           | > Any highly corrupt society is bound together by a series of
           | interlocking reciprocities: the local policeman who shakes
           | down a passing civilian must in turn pay tribute to his
           | police supervisor, who must pay his supervisor, and so forth;
           | favors or spoils may be distributed in the other direction.
           | 
           | My guess is the cops justify their work like in Stanford
           | prison experiment, and they accept without further thinking
           | what Putin says that the protesters are "foreign agents".
           | 
           | [0] https://nationalpost.com/news/world/cost-of-corruption-
           | in-ru... [1]
           | https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/01/19/corruption-
           | rev...
        
             | dondeee wrote:
             | Thank you very much for the book reference, I am definitely
             | reading this. I think understanding the police psychology
             | is a great insight.
        
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