[HN Gopher] Penpot Alpha Release - Free and Open-Source Design P...
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Penpot Alpha Release - Free and Open-Source Design Plattform
Author : stephdin
Score : 107 points
Date : 2021-02-02 12:35 UTC (10 hours ago)
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| gggtt wrote:
| Really cool. I think using standard JS or TS with a standard UI
| framework (like Vue, React, Svelte, etc.) would have attracted
| more contributors than Clojure.
|
| But otherwise , I'm really looking forward that project !
| diacritica wrote:
| I hear you! The thing is that sometimes (only sometimes) you do
| need to use the best technology for a project. In this case,
| Penpot's very own nature demands technology that is super-
| performant manipulating zillions of vectors and mathematical
| objects. I'm not saying you couldn't do this with standard JS
| or TS but to reach this status in 1 year we needed to go for
| this route. Anyway, we have plans for a more straightforward
| plugin contribution architecture so that shouldn't be a
| problem, but the "core core", yeah, it was our choice, same
| with SVG, a tough choice but it was worth the challenge.
| Thanks!!!
| gggtt wrote:
| That seems totally fair, thanks for your response. If the
| core is powerful thx to the choice of tech while plugins can
| be contributed easily then it sounds like a great plan !
| diacritica wrote:
| We're presenting Penpot at FOSDEM (online) this Sunday in case
| anyone wants to know more about the project:
| https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/penpot_design_freedom...
| imsky wrote:
| I've been working on a similar project - open source interface
| design tool with SVG as document format. Glad to see others think
| it's a good idea, too.
|
| There's an impressive amount of functionality just in the alpha
| release. Looking forward to seeing how it evolves!
| diacritica wrote:
| Heh, once again, hackernews makes a difference. Thank you guys!
| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtQIzT9XIAA5DRJ?format=jpg&name=...
| ashneo76 wrote:
| I will gladly pay for this as a hosted service. This is amazing!
| eposner wrote:
| awesome
| rglullis wrote:
| From the same developers of Taiga, which IMHO is a criminally
| underrated open source alternative for Agile Development
| diacritica wrote:
| Hey taiga lover, I feel you :) Today we released Taiga6 BTW
| (https://blog.taiga.io/taiga6-release.html), but we didn't want
| to steal penpot's thunder. We think Taiga6 will make things
| right. Anyway, Penpot is just so amazing! It should have
| existed 10 years ago, oh well, here it is
| simulo wrote:
| I think it is hard to overstate how impressive this is. While it
| aims to be well integrated in tech workflows, it is a product
| that allows designers to work well, with a nice, usable and
| useful UI.
|
| For the few designers in open source, designing with open source
| software is often a love/hate activity: We want to use and
| support open software, but it often is painful to use, lacks
| features relevant for design activities (which, yes, can mean:
| Being similar to industry standard products) while at the same
| time being overflowing with settings.
|
| Trying penpot makes me look forward to a product with a clear
| vision and great utility.
| diacritica wrote:
| wow... I just screenshot this and shared it with the Penpot
| team. No need for comment, really. You got it. Thank you.
| redindian75 wrote:
| As a regular user of Figma, I am blow away. I did a quick mockup,
| and it runs as well as figma on my browser. Silky smooth
| zooms,pans etc.
|
| I briefly played with components, pasted screenshots, and drew
| rectangles & shapes (80% of UI design is drawing rectangles :-).
| Yet to play with Prototypes.
|
| Kudos to the team... extremely impressive alpha.
| diacritica wrote:
| Yeah, that's one of reasons we went for clojure and
| clojurescript, to get that smoothness and performance. I'll
| send those amazing kudos to the team in 3, 2, 1... :)
| thecupisblue wrote:
| Wow! I'm quite impressed!
|
| An open source sketch-like app with the collaborative aspects of
| figma? Multiple shadow layers? all of the google fonts already
| there? Wow! Sign me up! I figure if it came in the desktop
| version it would eat up a quite bit of sketch/figma market.
|
| Stuff I seem to be missing at first:
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| 1. Double click to go to Component definition
|
| 2. Resize/collapse sidebars
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| 3. I get an internal error on shift+click in the Pages sidebar
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| 4. Gets quite stuttery in large document, but well, first
| version, what can you do.
| diacritica wrote:
| Wow, thats great feedback, let me write all that down! I'll
| tell you this already, desktop version is on the roadmap, we
| will probably produce an electron-based "native" app that can
| "install". We kind of like the idea of having the best of both
| worlds. That's also the beauty of open source, what's the risk
| really? Feel free to go to https://github.com/penpot/penpot and
| elaborate on those topics! Thank you!
| donclark wrote:
| Looks neat! Will it be cable of importing and exporting in
| various formats? Figma, XD, Sketch, etc?
| diacritica wrote:
| Yes, proprietary format import/export is on our roadmap. We
| have given priority to the feel-at-home experience rather than
| going for format compatibility. Also SVG posed many challenges.
| But yeah, I think we'd start with Figma, since it was the team
| knows best
| steveharman wrote:
| I'd love to see this succeed, but while Figma is pretty much free
| for most cases.... ?
| diacritica wrote:
| Yeah, if you are a freelancer and don't interact much with tech
| teams, I'd say yes. But Penpot is open source, SVG based, you
| can go cloud or on premise, meant to engage with devs also. I
| think we've got a different approach here. But yeah, it's quite
| a challenge. So what :)
| raun1 wrote:
| I just got a Figma Educational license two days ago. I'm
| likely going to just work with Penpot, instead. I'm so glad
| to see you guys here. It's certainly worth the development,
| considering how quickly prices raise at Figma when working
| with teams.
| diacritica wrote:
| That's the thing with proprietary tools. You're always
| always trapped. To be completely honest, when we were
| considering Penpot's huge roadmap we told ourselves "even
| if it's just the tool for education, universities, etc,
| that'll be fine". It turned out to be much more than that,
| but I see where you're coming from. And hey, if you'd like
| to fiddle with the code yourself or install it locally...
| be my guest.
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